This thread needs chapters -- :1orglaugh

The bottom line is they didn't pay him the money they said they would and he even emailed them about it.

I also never received it even after exchanging several emails with Stacy and having been promised several times they would "fix" it. In the end, it was so little money that I gave up. Same exact thing happened to a close friend of mine.

It's not "permanent". Right now it's 10 years, but since a lot of people turn off cookies, will only accept cookies from "trusted" sites, or will only allow session cookies, it could be 0 and thus you won't get any sales from those people.

Actually, i think post 49 or so said they'll send what his balance is.

While I think Will may get a bit overly defensive sometimes, he at least comes across as significantly more professional then the starter of this thread.

It's simple. They keep getting new affiliates, get them to put up links and send hits, then term their accounts. Or the best one is to not pay them until they FAX in those documents that everyone forgets.. And then when they finally do, term them or cancel their account because they say the quality of their traffic isn't good enough. Plenty of people will never change some of their links or will do it slowly so those hits and sales keep a coming on in.

As I said ealier, some huge programs really don't give a shit, even if you're sending 5-10 legal sales a day. If you bitch to them etc. they'll just term you. What are you going to do?? Bring it to the boards?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh For every person fucked over by these companies, there's a bunch of guys like you that will say they're "top notch stand up guys that don't cheat" which will get that company a bunch of new affiliates.

My response was in reference to the signup "bonus".

It's never a good idea to post when you're pissed off.

Will has his act down very good. He knows that if he acts professional and spins click cash in a positive light, he'll get people to sign up under him. I have noticed that in the last few months he's gotten a lot more abusive with those he spars with though. But don't get confused, his reason for posting in these threads isn't altruistic.

Proof is in the pudding as someone stated.

That said here are my stats. No photochop other than removing the sponsors around them.

btw, they always paid on time like clockwork... but did not answer the single email sent to them. :upsidedow

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1...ickcash7he.gif

PS - its imageshack so if you get an blank it is ~112k uniques for ~1.3K

Mainly tgp and linklist traffic. ymmv.

Will should be along soon to let you know he can help you improve your ratios and earn more money from Clickcash... But you'll have to signup under him so he can earn money from all that traffic of yours even if he doesn't help improve your ratios and sales. He also says he cherry picks who he'll work with... Although... he does seem to make the offer to pretty much anyone that agrees with him or simply doesn't say anything negative about CC. :thumbsup

Still see most of you people can't read.. here ya go Will

1. They charged my credit card illegally 29.99
2. I emailed them and said WTF? remove this bogus shit, im also an affiliate
included in email
3. woke up to see my links were TOS'd
4. contacted them, they replied they did not TOS me
5. NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID

to sum it up quit simply

they fucked up their shit and charged my card wether accidentally for fraudulently, instead of fixing it and saying sorry, they took offense
to my refund requst, TOS'd my site and disacknowldge that they did it
claiming I logged in and cancelled it... It's the only reason that link is
there so they can use that excuse, its not for any other purpose
but their deceitful lies and covering their ass when they want to be pricks

Your red herring tactics bore me. Watching you make a fool of yourself, I am reminded of exactly how to NOT recruit webmasters to a program. Your pattern is always the same; attack the individual person that has any type of complaint about clickcash. So I'm not altogether suprised with your post with the cute pics. I remember recently reading that thread when people were actually nicely telling you that when vigorously defend shaving practices, you are solidifying the well known notion that clickcash shaves. You didn't seem to get it.

So carry on the obvious clickcash shill and your personal attacks on those that have viable complaints. And obviously there is no shortage of them.

The guys that send clickcash a lot of joins do you guys get support from them at all?

Every email and every phone call. Stacy has called me back the times she didn't answer the phone. She's even called before to make sure something that was changed in my account was correct without me ever contacting them. Everybody I know personally big and small get their emails and phone calls answered.

I wonder how many people crying " i didn't get paid the $50 signup bonus" from the SECOND signup account they made. I don't think they had a signup bonus 7 years ago, I wasn't around back then and don't remember when i signed up if they had one or not, but I do know when you make a second or third account they don't keep giving you the signup bonus. You know how many times someone has contacted me about that, where is my signup bonus, and come to find out it was their second account. I wouldn't doubt it with this guy either, lets see if he can give us an honest response on this one.

Check my sig for the right answer! :pimp

Sorry but what you have listed is not possible.

38 sales would equal more then $1,330.00

1 - 10 sales: $40
11 - 50 sales: $45

Your first 10 make you $400
Your next 28 make you $1260

Total: $1660

So why are your stats out of line? Even if it was all signups over a year and all you made was $40 a signup, simple math, $40 x 38 = $1520

I smell bullshit.

Maybe it's 1994, lol.

and here is the reality of what happens, make an account i help you, if I don't help your sales go up go back to using your original account. It's not fucking rocket science, read my sig. You think you would have seen it enough times by now. But you are one of those people who knows it all, did you signup, did you make the same or less money working with me and did I kept making money off of you? So why do you t hink you know so much about this? oh, it's GFY, every poster here knows everything.

On fucking board full of sig whores and people pushing their sites with 1,000 sponsors on it, people who don't even use the sites they push or make no money with them, you don't bitch about them, instead you bitch about me and I actually help people.

After reading all of this crap, anyone really wonder why I am selective ?

i love this argument and was waiting for someone to bring it up. thank you.

anyone here with an ounce of business knowledge will be able to follow me, for the rest of you don't even try t o understand, this concept might be too complex for you.

Affiliate A creates account, sends 10 signups and makes clickcash "$50" (lets use $50 for example i bet the average is much more then that) and clickcash owes him $400 for those 10 signups.

So you suggest that they say :321GFY I want your $400 and i am not going to pay you. Considering the VAST majority of webmasters who make money with them will continuing using them for months and even years, why would they give away all of that future income just to screw you out of $400? If you stayed with them say 1 year, at a tiny $50 a week profit off of you they would have made $2600 off of you over the year, does it make sense to keep $400 but to lose $2600 of future earnings. Keep in mind also, all of the negative bs all these people will be starting about them as well, why would they want to make less money and create bad publicity????

And to your comment about the people who forget to change links, come on, sure people may forget to change links but how many forget to change links that actually generate signups. It has to be few and far between, anyone that careless is probably not getting signups in the first place and FYI, if they terminate you, THE SURFER CAN"T SIGNUP ANYWAY, HE GETS SENT TO A TOS PAGE.

But, please come back and try again. see if you can do better next time.

i try to reply to the idiots in a language they can understand and i an wasting my time to make a meaningfull reply to someone acting like a 8 year old. take it or leave it, read my post or not I don't give a shit what you THINK one way or the other.

no problems at all, and i can usually answer the question more then half of the time if the person wants to ask me, that is because the majority of the time it is in the FAQ, lol. Or it is something simple that I have learned along the way, if i can't help the person i can get them in touch with them so their question/ problem is resolved.

You can attempt to spin it all you want Will, but the fact is that people haven't been paid the bonus that was promised them even if they've attempted to work with clickcash to get it sorted out. And if a company is willing to not pay you such a tiny amount.. well.. you can see where that can go...

And this is why you're no more than a shill. You're automatic response is to assume someone is a liar when it comes to their issues with your beloved company.

Obviously I can't be sure, but my stats aren't a blue color. So my first thought was that he was using something like stats remote which would just add up all his earnings including any ref earnings. You're first thought was he was a liar.

yeah i was thinking that too, but it says 3/7 for the date? 3/7/1998 maybe ?

which people, names.... please give me names!!!

As you wish, Shill76 :thumbsup

I thought you picked who you would work with Will, i.e. you wouldn't work with newbs? Or have you lied about that before? Or do you simply spin your "truth" to suit your arguments?
Unlike you, I've never claimed to know everything. But at least my eyes are open to finding the truth as opposed to burrying my head in the sand.

GET A FUCKING CLUE, IT IS SIMPLE MATH. ADD IT UP YOURSELF! IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

how can he make $1330 from 38 signup. do the math yourself. fucking think before you post, please you are making yourself look like a retard by conintuning to try to attack me when it is obvious i am right. Like at this point i can say 2+2=4 and you would say you are wrong you think you know everything lol. get over man, move on.

I already said that I for one hadn't been paid that bonus.

Why would you want the names anyways? So you could try to turn them into liars and people who have commited fraud etc. etc. etc.. You don't want to hear any of it. Out of all the complaints about CC, you turn every one of those people into the ones that were in the wrong. It's never CC's fault in your eyes.

hey can you do simple math ?

Maybe you should go take a little nap since this is obviously too much for you.. And then re-read what I posted.

Your argument is pathetic. A huge company like CC doesn't really care about guys making a few hundred a month. Get real. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh It's been said so many times on this baord and others that any successful program doesn't need affiliates. The vast majority of income the affiliates make for a program is like a yearly bonus. And if they've got a couple whales, they treat them like kings and who cares about the rest.
What.. The surfer isn't smart enough to click thru/past a TOS page? Do you think CC will keep a TOS page always coming up? There are thousands and thousands of pages out there that people haven't changed with links to the old ARS sites, old hawgscash sites etc. etc. etc... That's free traffic for the program when an old affiliate doesn't change out their links.

I'm still at the top of page 1 so it may have already been mentioned. I've seen evidence of clickcash sending out 1099's with the income from the previous year. If you compare the two 1099's side by side they have identical amounts.

I guess that means you made 10-20k less last tax year. :winkwink:

I think you should get a clue. He is using Stats Remote and it doesnt show webmaster referral bonus etc. He was also talking positive about CC by saying that he made good money with them and that they always paid on time.

You had an allie in this thread who you have now pissed off.

It also doesnt show chargebacks.

you post are getting more and more retarded. i really believe at this point you are just posting shit to see me reply.

a lot of small affiliates = a good bit of money, even if the person is just getting a couple signups a week, 5,000 people like that makes clickcash lot of money, so you claim they screw the small guy, it makes no sense, a lot of small guys equal more then a couple big guys. keep trying.

the people can't click past the TOS page genius, i would think that people who link to ifriends would use their affiliate url with their id in it (makes sense), well all of those links are TOS'ed. So if all of the links go to a TOS page, how can people "click past it"?

Errrr... i don't care about ARS or other sites, are we talking about clickcash here.

And your comment " how do we know if they will keep the TOS page up" how do you know they wont? can you show me someone who was terminated and had a tos page that is not coming up with a tos page, no you can't you talking out of your ass again, so unless you have proof with these comments you should really stfu.

OK EXPLAIN THIS TO ME THEN!!!

38 x $40 (no volume bonus) = $1520 not $1330

so please explain to me how i am still missing this.

Everyone follow along with me slow and show me where i am missing this. If i am wrong i will admit it. but i am not going to take your "word" for it you need to explain.

38 signups from ifriends even if they were all $40 would $1520 he has $1330 listed. You say that it doesn't include referral money. How does that matter. If it included referral money it should have been more then $1520. for 38 signups the smallest amount he should have made would have been $1520, how can it show less then that? they dont pay less then $40 per signup...

Got busted by the cookies case closed dumbass...........:thumbsup

My point.. which you're too blind to see.. is that when one of those "small" affiliates becomes an issue for the company, it's much easier just to get rid of them than keep them on. CC has clearly shown they don't give a shit about their affiliates so why would they keep a problem around? Much easier to create a reason to term them and be done with it. You can screw over little affiliates all day long and very few of them will do anything about it. And the few that come on here and post.. well like I said, there's tons of guys like you to come to the companies support. Man are you naive. Where do you get this idea that a bunch of small guys make more than a few big ones? Maybe you should talk to some real program owners cause the ones I've talked to or the ones that have posted stats have made it pretty clear that pretty much the top 10 affiliates make more than all the rest in almost all cases.

Ok Will.. Prove it to me.. First of all, show me a TOS'd link so I can see that page, and then prove to me that after 6 months that CC doesn't stop displaying it so they can get all the traffic that would otherwise go to waste. Show ME proof for a change since you're the one making statements that you can't prove either.

What's the difference? if there's a shit load of links up there for those old sites, there's sure as hell going to be a ton of links up for CC which aren't active anymore. Do you really think CC would let that go to waste?

I don't use stats remote Will.. Do you?? It's not rocket science to intelligently assume that those 38 signups include ref sales. So maybe his real sales were only 28 and the rest were ref sales. Jeez are you thick sometimes.

get a clue, if you want to talk like you know what you are talking about then you should actually know something about it. Clickcash doesn't deduct for chargebacks like all the other companies.

but thanks for asking me or giving me the benefit of the doubt, allie.