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Relish XXX 03-07-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by will76
get a clue, if you want to talk like you know what you are talking about then you should actually know something about it. Clickcash doesn't deduct for chargebacks like all the other companies.

but thanks for asking me or giving me the benefit of the doubt, allie.

I dont know how the CC system works but I do know that stats remote shows end totals.

I swear I hope to god you never try to 'help' me like you help CC. You are just digging them a bigger fucking hole to bury themselves in. Look at how many people you have pissed off in this thread.

Are you actually authorised to speak on behalf of CC and do you work for them?

Tempest 03-07-2006 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
get a clue, if you want to talk like you know what you are talking about then you should actually know something about it. Clickcash doesn't deduct for chargebacks like all the other companies.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Now you're just acting like an ass without even knowing what you're talking about.. He was refering to stat remote not showing chargebacks.. not click cash... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You really should go take a nap..

rowan 03-07-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by will76
OK EXPLAIN THIS TO ME THEN!!!

38 x $40 (no volume bonus) = $1520 not $1330

so please explain to me how i am still missing this.

Everyone follow along with me slow and show me where i am missing this. If i am wrong i will admit it. but i am not going to take your "word" for it you need to explain.

38 signups from ifriends even if they were all $40 would $1520 he has $1330 listed. You say that it doesn't include referral money. How does that matter. If it included referral money it should have been more then $1520. for 38 signups the smallest amount he should have made would have been $1520, how can it show less then that? they dont pay less then $40 per signup...

You're slipping, Will. You've been using them for years, right? Wasn't so long ago that CC was paying out $35 per join.

$35 x 38 = $1330

HizAzPhun 03-07-2006 09:36 AM

Facts and opinions about ClickCash...

#1 - Fact - Regarding the $29.99 charge mentioned in the original post, although I LOVE promoting iFriends as "FREE FREE FREE", IT ISN'T. If you read the fine fine print, you will see that you have to actively "participate in the community" in order for your account to remain "free" ... I'd guess that 90% of users don't participate in the required way and therefore get charged (although it's usually $9.99 not $29.99).

#2 - Opinion - The fact that it's not really free is a huge part of the reason that ClickCash can afford to payout $40+ per signup without shaving.

#3 - Fact - I have tried pretty much every affiliate program out there and I simply continue to make more with Clickcash. As I have for the last 5+ years. But that's me. The only program that comes even CLOSE is G3X, and anyone looking for a "free signup" alternative to Clickcash, I recommend you checkout http://www.g3x.com (although their system is being redone, not the best time to signup until their marketing suite is back online.)

#4 - Fact - Yes, Clickcash has 10's of thousands of webmasters signed up to their program, but there are less than 1000 that actually get a payout every week. I need to look at some pay stub numbers again, but if I remember correctly the check sequences I've seen, it's actually less than 500.

#5 - Opinion - Hey Teksonline , I know Will76 can be a bit abbrasive at times, but he's a good guy and defends Clickcash based on his own outstanding experience with them. Why don't you hit him on ICQ and give him your account code, he might be able to find out some info for you.

Take it for what it's worth, Clickcash has a very *special* way of doing business, I won't necessarily defend all of their practices, but I will most definitely continue to send them my traffic.

will76 03-07-2006 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest
I don't use stats remote Will.. Do you?? It's not rocket science to intelligently assume that those 38 signups include ref sales. So maybe his real sales were only 28 and the rest were ref sales. Jeez are you thick sometimes.


if that is the case then stats remote is really screwing with his stats. They give a unique signup ration but include in his signups his downline signups? that would totally screw up his conversion ratio. If that is the case then I would like to hear someone who knows this for sure come and explain it.

Look, i didn't jump on this guy, I just said he signups didn't look right, " i smell bullshit". His post being in a thread with a couple idiots who are relentlessly attacking clickcash with no proof and idiot comments maybe I got a little defensive. I said i smell bullshit. Everyone jumps my shit saying, it doesn't include his referral bonus, or his volume bonus, which is not possible. I even said if someone could logically explain this i would admit i was wrong. After making several guess someone finally made a scenerio where it could be possible, now if we know this is the truth or knows till someone comes on here from remote stats or someone using them tells us either way.

will76 03-07-2006 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX
I dont know how the CC system works but I do know that stats remote shows end totals.

I swear I hope to god you never try to 'help' me like you help CC. You are just digging them a bigger fucking hole to bury themselves in. Look at how many people you have pissed off in this thread.

Are you actually authorised to speak on behalf of CC and do you work for them?


how many people have i pissed off in this thread that werent already pissed off... please refer to the post numbers.

you people through out bullshit comments like this ALL THE TIME. back it up, who in this thread who did not bash clickcash before, is now mad at clickcash because of something i said... come on point out " all those people" for us. please. back up your mouth with substance.

teksonline 03-07-2006 09:57 AM

#1 Fact I was not on the free account
I have been being charged $6.95 for the past year or so/

I dont even use the account, I just have it so in case I ever promoted the crap I could look at shit, with their stupid fucking content policy its a bitch to promote anything, its fucking designed to steal from their affiliates, they know dam well we want to see content is available and not these fucking privacy blocked images...

What a better way to run a system, then to make it so their affiliates also have to pay monthly. LOL! Cock Smooching Bitches!

HizAzPhun 03-07-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline
#1 Fact I was not on the free account
I have been being charged $6.95 for the past year or so/

I dont even use the account, I just have it so in case I ever promoted the crap I could look at shit, with their stupid fucking content policy its a bitch to promote anything, its fucking designed to steal from their affiliates, they know dam well we want to see content is available and not these fucking privacy blocked images...

What a better way to run a system, then to make it so their affiliates also have to pay monthly. LOL! Cock Smooching Bitches!

Ahh sorry missed that part of your post about the $6.95 membership... pretty lame.

will76 03-07-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest



Ok Will.. Prove it to me.. First of all, show me a TOS'd link so I can see that page, and then prove to me that after 6 months that CC doesn't stop displaying it so they can get all the traffic that would otherwise go to waste. Show ME proof for a change since you're the one making statements that you can't prove either.


What's the difference? if there's a shit load of links up there for those old sites, there's sure as hell going to be a ton of links up for CC which aren't active anymore. Do you really think CC would let that go to waste?

YES because when they terminate you, they do it for a reason, in most cases it is because they didn't want your traffic in the first place.

The borden is on you to prove it. You come on here saying 6 months from now they will change the TOS page and start taking your traffic and making money off of it for themselves. You need to prove what you are saying, you brought it up. Damn if you can't prove what you are saying, then you shouldn't be opening your mouth. Here is Tekonline's pages, if you want to keep checking for the next couple years (if he keeps them up) be my guest, if you see any changes then you can come back and talk like you know what the fuck you are talking about. How can i prove something that doesn't happen, AND YOU SAY I SPIN STUFF... nice try.

http://www.webcam-online.com/ how are people going to click around the TOS page, Mr. know it all? go ahead avoid the subject.

will76 03-07-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Now you're just acting like an ass without even knowing what you're talking about.. He was refering to stat remote not showing chargebacks.. not click cash... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You really should go take a nap..


but what the hell do we care what stats remotes show for other companies we are talking about clickcash, why even say it if it has nothing to do with this thread. You people are reaching deep it is sad. He even admitted it in a later post. very sad, but you are on a mission, make up enough shit you might get one right sooner or later. You get an A for effort at least.

sfera 03-07-2006 10:10 AM

wow thanks for telling me that

will76 03-07-2006 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
You're slipping, Will. You've been using them for years, right? Wasn't so long ago that CC was paying out $35 per join.

$35 x 38 = $1330


ding ding we have a winner! you are right i am slipping, That has to be what happened. Now i did say maybe his stats were old, but i didn't really think that was the case, why would someone be here posting 2 year old stats with todays date on it? (3/7) ? That would also mean he never hit the volume bonus any week, so those signups most have been over months, that seems to smell a little funny looking at it on todays date. If it would have been in any other thread, i wouldn;t have thought twice but i put nothing past the haters here to fabricate bad looking stats to try to bash clickcash. i knew something wasn't right, but i should have tried that combination as well.. you got it right, i give you the credit you deserve.

will76 03-07-2006 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HizAzPhun
Facts and opinions about ClickCash...

#1 - Fact - Regarding the $29.99 charge mentioned in the original post, although I LOVE promoting iFriends as "FREE FREE FREE", IT ISN'T. If you read the fine fine print, you will see that you have to actively "participate in the community" in order for your account to remain "free" ... I'd guess that 90% of users don't participate in the required way and therefore get charged (although it's usually $9.99 not $29.99).

#2 - Opinion - The fact that it's not really free is a huge part of the reason that ClickCash can afford to payout $40+ per signup without shaving.

#3 - Fact - I have tried pretty much every affiliate program out there and I simply continue to make more with Clickcash. As I have for the last 5+ years. But that's me. The only program that comes even CLOSE is G3X, and anyone looking for a "free signup" alternative to Clickcash, I recommend you checkout http://www.g3x.com (although their system is being redone, not the best time to signup until their marketing suite is back online.)

#4 - Fact - Yes, Clickcash has 10's of thousands of webmasters signed up to their program, but there are less than 1000 that actually get a payout every week. I need to look at some pay stub numbers again, but if I remember correctly the check sequences I've seen, it's actually less than 500.

#5 - Opinion - Hey Teksonline , I know Will76 can be a bit abbrasive at times, but he's a good guy and defends Clickcash based on his own outstanding experience with them. Why don't you hit him on ICQ and give him your account code, he might be able to find out some info for you.

Take it for what it's worth, Clickcash has a very *special* way of doing business, I won't necessarily defend all of their practices, but I will most definitely continue to send them my traffic.


i would been more the happy to try to help him.

The 29.90 was from a fan club, so either him, or someone using his account made a fan club purchase. If some people want to believe that after 7 years of using clickcash, they decided to try to slip in a 29.90 charge on the guy, then they can belive tht if that want to. i just think it is more likely he did it on accident or someone stole his user pass, or someone who knows his info did it then it was some random ifriends error.

The other thing no one has ever accused clickcash from banning their account because their asked for a refund for ifriends charge. ifriends is actually pretty easy from what i have heard from the chathost, they get fan club sales charged back a good bit. The two companies, ifriends/ clickcash really don't communicate that much, muchless is ifriends going to shoot an email over to clickcash, " you need to close his clickcash account down" he just asked for a refund. doesn't make sense. I *bet* he was a real jerk and hot head and went off bitching and screaming at them. I know that never helps the situation, but who knows if it factored in. As he stated in his emails from them, it shows his account was closed down online but someone who had his user / pass.

Million dollar question, so why does he say, "wow didnt know how that happened, can you please fix it for me?". Problem solved but i bet he ran his mouth so much they didn;t want to fix his problem, i know i would want to work with someone that i have paid out time for 7 years with no problems, then one issue comes up and instead of acting like rational human being, and giving them benefit of the doubt to look into and fix it, he starts screaming they scammed him... I wouldnt want to work with this person any more either, such loyality. 7 years no problem, 1 issue, they are the worst company in the world, blah blah blah, seems like a hidden agenda to me.

will76 03-07-2006 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline
#1 Fact I was not on the free account
I have been being charged $6.95 for the past year or so/

I dont even use the account, I just have it so in case I ever promoted the crap I could look at shit, with their stupid fucking content policy its a bitch to promote anything, its fucking designed to steal from their affiliates, they know dam well we want to see content is available and not these fucking privacy blocked images...

What a better way to run a system, then to make it so their affiliates also have to pay monthly. LOL! Cock Smooching Bitches!


where does it say that you can't use your own content ??? you are welcome to use your own content, and then when you screw up something and get canned you can switch to another cam sponsor on the fly. and then when you get canned from them, this will make it easier for you to keep switching around. :2 cents:

Here is another novel idea, pay the 6.95 and go in and download everything, cancel membership.... you have about a million pictures to last you a life time for promoting them.

BTW, how many of those people who signup do you think did so from t heir own affiliate code. lol talking about scamming, you complaining about being charged 6.95 f or something you made $40 off of doing... :Oh crap

teksonline 03-07-2006 10:32 AM

your a fucking babbling idiot

will76 03-07-2006 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HizAzPhun
Ahh sorry missed that part of your post about the $6.95 membership... pretty lame.


see above post, nothing lame about it. I gave several ways he could have avoided this, he CHOOSE to do it and is now bitching about it.

will76 03-07-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline
your a fucking babbling idiot

so when you run out of bullshit excuses you resort to pure name calling.

so no comment about how you implied clickcash was scamming you becaue you were getting .40 and .04 sales from your downline.

so no comment about why you didn't just tell them that your account was not shut down intentionally by you and could they please put it back on... gee only seems like the logical thing to do instead bitching here (like that will help the matter, funny enough in your twisted logic you think it did, you "outed them" so that is why they are paying you now, LOL. they don't care what you post, i think that is obvious to everyone.

so no comment why you didn't use your own content or just download a lot of content over 1 month and cancel the 6.95 after one month, but instead you pay it every month, and then bitch about it later...

so many valid questions to still be answered are we only going to get insult, one line replies back now ?

will76 03-07-2006 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
so when you run out of bullshit excuses you resort to pure name calling.

so no comment about how you implied clickcash was scamming you becaue you were getting .40 and .04 sales from your downline.

so no comment about why you didn't just tell them that your account was not shut down intentionally by you and could they please put it back on... gee only seems like the logical thing to do instead bitching here (like that will help the matter, funny enough in your twisted logic you think it did, you "outed them" so that is why they are paying you now, LOL. they don't care what you post, i think that is obvious to everyone.

so no comment why you didn't use your own content or just download a lot of content over 1 month and cancel the 6.95 after one month, but instead you pay it every month, and then bitch about it later...

so many valid questions to still be answered are we only going to get insult, one line replies back now ?

so no comment when you complain about not getting yoru signup bonus and i mention that it is a common mistake amoung people when they open a second account, they don't keep giving it to you on multiple accounts... no comment if this was the case for you, did you have a second account?

teksonline 03-07-2006 11:22 AM

No you are making up dumb shit based upon your poor comprehention level, attacking and twisting my statements with irrelevent and inaccurate observations. That sir is why you are an idiot. you are doing it as everyone above has mentioned becasue you have a common intersted in sucking money out of people so you make more, and nothing else.

where you come up with second accounts I have no clue

Where you come up with how $4.00 conversions become .04 cent coversions
from the same downsell line and having a viable excuse is pretty humerous at best.

what this has to do with my choice of content, is again a lame way to take an deffensive attack to try and go offensive, but it's like the Chicago Bears passing game, weak and pathetic

Valid questions, Why would I ask you a question? You can't even take good advice from someone who knows business, has ethics and morals and knows when he's been wronged... You can't defend that. You can only adhere its advice, which is what this post is about.

ETHICS

If a company has no ethics, then its a company you should not be doing business with.. An obviously with this situation, it has been shown to me
this company has no ethics, and I did not care less about a resolution.. I knew its best to get far away from them


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