Smut peddler? Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. There is nothing illegal about what we do. There is nothing immoral about what we do. There is nothing dirty about what we do. I bet you can't say the same.

You put software on peoples systems, that they don't want. You create havoc when people try to remove your shit. You are fucking scum. Show up some time, to an industry show, and I'll show you just what I think of your kind.

bunch of fucking crybabies in this thread

many installs are perfectly legal. why don't you go bitch at yahoo and google. they bundle their toolbars and desktop aps in everything they can

Hey Mark, I'm with you, make a buck however you can, as long as it's legal

Yep exactly right jjjay, if these guys went to an ad-tech event (where the biggest media companies in the world connect) they would have an absolute eye opening experience. Most of these guys can't get out of their adult shell and figure out that there is millions being made everyday in other avenues other areas than adult.

DH

Dude I have WAY too much to lose to be involved with anything scammy or even gray area. We ONLY do installs that are legal and that people have full knowledge of what they are installing. Plus the uninstall links are readily available and not like finding a needle in a haystick.

DH

LOL! Yeah I will keep kicking that dead horse I guess :1orglaugh

DH

i don't even make the majority of my money in adult anymore but adult or not, installs are generally making surfers trust sites less and less. i guess with p2p you got nothing to lose. you're just another file amoung millions, no site to attach it to. the people making the most money on installs are the ones using shady practices. spam isn't illegal in canada, why don't you guys do that too?

wow, you could have privately contacted him, instead of announcing to the whole world that you are willing to install spyware on people's computers...

no your the only idiot to speak up

Hey EEE post a link were i can get his install and i will download it myself and test it:)

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please don't compare yourself to adult webmasters, let alone insult them (the irony is you CAME TO GFY looking for business...)

Really eh...then why did you made a detailed post...hell you not even mentioned your "legit company" name... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

please...you honestly think this guy is legit...

some installers do a force, which is really a pain in the ass, it will almost force you to install, or close the window, they keep popping it up about 9 times, until you give up.

Do you know how many gfyers that do installs contacted me after making that post LOL! You have no idea!!

DH

Hey...to each their own. Who are any of you guys to criticize how others do business? If you don't believe in spyware/installs/etc. then don't fuck with them.

I personally would never do that to surfers because just like "opt-in" e-mails 75% of the time the surfers do not know what they are getting into.

But who am I to criticize those who want to?

yeah, installs are now what spamming was 4 years ago or so.

For such a legit company that offers legit downloads, why not post a link to your stuff?

well normally sure but installs (some at least) effect everyones income. they can change affiliate links, hijack home pages. pop someone elses affiliate code in a window while the sufer is visiting your site. not cool at all.

Ain't that the truth.

I find this so interesting, this if you work in porn you cant have ethics and morals.Which is a bullshit excuse for people that wouldnt have morals in any industry they worked in.
If your a scumbag who just wants to make a buck, regardless of who you hurt thats your choice but dont blame adult or its ok its only porn.
I have fixed more family members computers that have garbage on them. We all know surfers dont know what they are clicking on for the most part. This shit feeds on that because if they were aware they wouldnt click on it and it wouldnt be worth money.

link?








j/k :winkwink:

I assume that all the whiners and wusses in this thread dont deal with any of the larger adult companies like say CE for example that do toolbar installs - or one of the many other of the largest affiliate programs out there.
If you do then guess youre just being hypocritical cause those programs effect your money supply. I guess most (thats probably a bad assumption since I know most of the whales on GFY use installers) newer adult WMs want to lose out on legal ventures (and no Im not talking about the spyware install crap like coolwebsearch that really does damage to PCs)

You younger newbies need to start opening your eyes and stop acting like all the US citizens I see around here with their heads in the sand.

sorry but i just can't see how installs don't alienate surfers. i won't even go to lyrics sites anymore because they stuff installs down your throat.

Hey man, answer my email! I want some installs! ;-)

You guys are aware most of the shit these scammers push on to surfers computers change cookies,ref codes,etc?

Go to a media show where all of the large companies get together. You will see exactly how many "ethical" companies do this. It is legal, because in the tos its list what they will do.....most do nothing harmfull...so relax

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh i have no comment on your post. i just want to laugh at you for being so wrong.

I'll back Mark up on this. We have a very stringent policy about what goes out over out network and I personally would have a very serious issue with anything that wasn't 100% above board.

And thats the point that most are missing - these guys in this thread are talking about a completely different type of installer than what the pissed off surfers experience (and occasionally us experienced WMs) where there is actual destructive software hijacks etc.
Its kinda like lumping all types of popups/popunders into one thing - they arent all the same and yet in the last 4 years the adult industry has completely toned down the popups(including programs having to retool to offer no console links etc) because a few adult WMs made a large enough noise - and yet the mainstream internet is loaded with popups and the advertising budgets are in the hundreds of millions for popups over there

As far as Im concerned the adult industry is just continuing its fine tradition of shooting itself in the foot at every turn because a few whiney WMs and surfers might get a little offended - waah fucking waah
It sure has never affected my retention with the surfers Ive been sending to revshare for years

I think this was the best thoughtout post of the entire night.

DH

interesting... :disgust

so maybe one day some perograms will have to offer "installer free tours" too?

Only if the younger inexperienced WMs insist on lowering their own revenue streams by crying about all the nasty little things they might be hurting their personal dedicated lifetime surfers with :(

hit me up on ICQ 205189449

For that matter, anyone that is looking to sell and wants to make some money

ICQ 205189449

that's bullshit

let me get this straight, nobody knows what this guy's installing but everybody's bitching about it

Never done installs but if Yahoo and Google start paying 10 cents for every install of their toolbars, or some other company starts paying 10 cents per screensaver installed, I'd go for it.....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

they are paying $1 per install. everyone knows what kind of "toolbar" surfers are gonna get.