And those "other processes" can be used to send out spam email if they wanted to since they've made it vague enough to run anything they want. This is not much different than setting up a botnet using real viruses/malware/toolbars etc..

exactly. this practise whether legal or not should not be accepted in any way shape or form..

"But mooooom... everyone else is doing it!" Are you really that naive?

You're saying you installed the software and found nothing wrong. Did you wait for your "trial" to expire?

bump . . .

TONS of people are infected and it even is there for everybody to read in their terms but hey, pornkings didnt find anything so they keep on sending traffic to a program thats fucking up this business for all of us.

dude your way overstepping your opinion on this , you would be better of just not saying anything else because the further you get into it the worse your looking


are you insane .. ? lets do some deals then ill trade 2 hits for every one you send me ( but ill jack the surfer up so he will never be able to get to your site ever again )

I dont know how you can say they arent shady.. thats as shady as they come to say that once the trial is over the product cant be removed ...
how more obviously shady can you get

Looks like more than one sponsor will be banned on a few lists by the end of the night.

and hey im serious about that trade , if you really value your traffic so little i would be glad to take you up on a trade.. i wont even make the malware affect any other sponsors , all it will do is redirect any of yoursites to my site so then when i send you 2 hits , they will actually come rright back to me and ill send you them back again lol i could make a mint doing this.. just retrading your own traffic back to you , and building my own vast empire from all your exits..

I have been testing this product for over two months on three different machines, one at home and two in the office, there has been nothing suspect about the product, if there was we would have never started advertising it in the first place.. plain and simple...

We have exits up, we send them traffic, they send us traffic plain and simple... Whatever we do with the traffic they send to us is our business, whatever they do with the traffic once it reaches them is their business.. it is seperated from the traffic you have sent to us that YOU ARE PAID to send to us.

Do you really think that the shit you install such as icq, aim, etc is not full of adware and processes? Read the fucking terms of AOL instant messenger, whatever is discussed on AOL IM is PROPERTY OF AOL, ICQ is AOL property, so any ideas, formulas, or anything can be used without your permission... I am done with this, I know you all have your beliefs and thoughts, thats cool whatever, but stating that we support spyware installs is pure shit, and I will not tollerate it...

Talk to the source, don't drag us into your crusade when all we have is a trafic relationship with them. If shit changes and they start doing malicious stuff, Yeah I'll be pissed, but from what I can tell they have a legit opperation going that has not set off bells and whistles with me.

There will always be people who complain and who make reports, we get chargebacks and all that shit every day, people saying we rip them off because they don't realize the $1.00 one day trial was for only one day... that is clearly labeled on the site..

I have much better shit to do than to sit around and debate this with you Franck. You got your stir of drama today, I'm sure your sig sponsor is thrilled with the clicks your generating..

I have no clue what you do in this industry honestly, as far as I know you're a surfer who lucked out and got some $$$ from starting a ton of shit.. but what do I know what you do??? It's just my opinion, and I am entitled to it...

i hope you realise thats likely whats happening anyways.. he is prob trading traffic to you he has scooped from some other sponsor. they infect them so they cant get to a diff sponsors site that is also trading with him and send them to you , you give them one "clean" surfer back , they infect them and send them to the next trade partner , so when you install the program , you dont see anything wrong because he makes your surfers go to sponsor B's trade , then he makes their program scoop your traffic back to him..

sheesh this could actually make a great program. lol if i were completely unethical and wanted my balls chopped off

50,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

the big difference is you can uninstall icq and aol at any point

Let's updated this.....
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...4&postcount=40
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...2&postcount=44

Sponsors supporting RansomWare installs:
PlatinumBucks
Python
EpicCash
PornKings
RageCash
Mayor (Money?)
PornoPushers
SpaCash

Maybe someone can confirm some of these that promotes them.

Smokey, I've successfully uninstalled the movie downloader from my system, run through system processes and registry entries, there is nothing there...

I tested this on xp pro machine, and two xp home machines...

I went to my add/remove programs to uninstall, and that was that....

Are you fucking insane?!

This is ransomware. It doesn't allow people to uninstall the fucking software unless they pay money. It is even worse than spyware, this literally is extortion.

Oh, as for the "traffic relationship only", I guess we should be expecting you guys to starts sending money to legal underage nude art sites soon then? After all, it's "not your responsibility".

I wouldnt do that at all.. You're going off on a whole different tangent here...

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/611029-drama-moviepass-tv-webmastersdirect-fucking-scumbags.html

Read it.

If people keep the software on their system longer than the "trial", they are unable to uninstall it unless they pay money. The moviepass.tv terms say so themselves, as well as thousands of people victimized by this.

How is this any different than a toolbar install?? You're helping them setup a network of computers on which they can run anything they want at anytime. 6 months from now they can start sending out spam etc. They won't care if you drop them as a sponsor at that poiint becasue of all the money they'll be making doing spam.. And you'll have helped them to do it.

Has there ever been anyone in this industry that's done this sort of thing that hasn't ended up being a spammer/scammer etc.?

Both are clearly unethical practices with a very shaky legal basis, but a legal basis nonetheless. If you support something that is basically extortion, why not other unethical practices?

Dude how can you simple ignore the TONS of people who got infected with this shit? How can you? I honestly dont get it. Google and other websites are FULL of complaints about moviepass. Are you really just sticking your head in the sand? You amaze me man.

Wow the web is getting dirty these days.

Even the WasahingtonPost knows of them--
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050600186.html

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://static.politiek-digitaal.nl/u...informatie.jpg

"i work for pornkings and tell you no spyware was found, i repeat no spyware was found"

ANd Media, why you think they redirect ff traffic?

They cant exploit it.

I cant believe i didnt think of that myself (thanks kriskros).

How much more do you need dude?

im not sure if you read the disclaimer, you can uninstall the program just fine "while your in trial" once the trial is over you cant uninstall it..

Im not telling you how to run your shit , just telling you how i feel about this stuff.

Heres what a proper response to this thread should be ( in my opinion )

We at _____ are very concerned about these allegations. Let us assure you we do not condone spyware/malware or any unethical busniess practises. We test ALL productsd on our own machines and keep an open diologue with our trade partners. While we stringly disagree with the conclusion posed in this thread. if we are made aware of a problem we will take care of it, and if we find occurances as mentioned in this thread we will take action and cease our relationship with them.

damn drama on the high seas :Oh crap :Oh crap

man I should hire you to write PR for me....

Check it Smokey and Franck, I am concerned when people are getting fucked, I would never link to it without trying it MYSELF first... I let the trial phase lapse I got a video saying I needed to pay now, closed that out, went into my control panel, uninstalled, restarted, ran updated microsoft anti spyware, then ran updated spybot search and destroy, nothing was found, and I was never messed with again... never prompted again for any renewals, did this on three machines on multiple IPs..

If I had something happen other than being able to uninstall, damn right I'd be pissed, I'd have some words on this matter too, but nothing came of the install so as far as I could tell it was ok...

I won't step on your values... because you have the right to them, I have no desire to fuck people... So I do have the similar if not the same values, but I did find nothing wrong with the install...

other people rob subways on meth so it's ok - what fucked reasoning.

then personal attacks.

this board needs to take a course in logical fallacies.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

Media, ok... great you installed it yourself.

But please take a look at the Washingtonpost article now... if it's been in there, as well as thousands of other complaints, that mean maybe they spoofed your IP so you download a spyware free version or some shit like that.

Just saying... it's not isolated cases, it's a lot of people who have been infected.

Sponsors supporting RansomWare installs:

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SHOW PROOF

DD... I ran it from three machines.. on multiple IPs... I don't think they know my home IP when all of my business is done on my work machine... The washington post article makes no mention of them even trying to uninstall like any other program... There's always people who complain when there is something they don't understand... but we'll see what comes of it, the minute something happens to my system from their installs, I will take any action I need to and stop promoting them... but that has not happened...

i find it hilarious that programs and webmasters actively promote this shit when it fucks the consumer, makes them distrust the internet and also steals program and affiliate $$$.

you should have been a jew in nazi germany so you could sell uncle abe to the lampshade factory. "itz just bizness. we tested the lampshades, and they work fine."

don't you think think the fact you have to uninstall something because they clicked on an exit is a warning sign that something is fucked up?

why would a consumer trust you when you click on an exit and they are ridded with malware?

not everone is a computer geek who knows how to uninstall this garbage. but they still have $$$.

which they will spend on other less annoying avenues like dvds, movies, cable whatever.

See thats a much better response ,you guys should have said that from the get go and ignored the haters ( i know its hard ) :)

But also i will take it as a challenge and be installing this product for test on 98 xp and 2000 i will let you know ( and others ) if i find anything suspicious..

If it dont jack codes, jack sites and can be uninstalled i have no problem with it

You're fucking kidding me. THOUSANDS of people on the internet have tried to uninstall this, and if you'd taken a quick look at the google search for moviepass.tv, you would have seen that they were unable to install it the normal way.

Out of a couple millions spam emails sent, there is almost no complaints.

So if it really was that easy to remove, there wouldn't be complaints.

There just gotta be a trick somewhere, the numbers (of complaints) don't add up to make this thing legetimate. The TOS dosen't either and the WS post article don't really mention anything else BUT... there are pretty good chances they got a lot of complaints about this one in particular to put the name out there...

I don't have to judge your affiliate program since I don't promote it, but if there are that many users that are unhappy, there gotta be a problem somewhere in the equation.

You'll need to let it run for a very long time and check the net traffic to see if it turns into an email spam machine.