Just marry your hand and the only fight you will have is with that hand when you decide to switch things up a bit and use the other.

Or the guys who don't want their wife to see the charge on a credit card bill that they open up while the guy's at work??? If he can use cash to buy the pre-paid card separately, it won't show up on the billing and he can't later refute a credit card--hence, no Credit Card chargeback??????

Dave

if stupidity was painful, you would be balled up in the fetal position on the floor day and night screaming in agony.

Porn 101:

lesson 1: pornography is and ALWAYS has been an impulse purchase. if you had ever owned a site yourself instead of "consulting" - you would know that.

lesson 2: anonymity isn't and never has been a factor. see lesson 1.

lesson 3: its not exactly like epoch, ccbill or anyone else for that matter bills you as "dogs fucking drunk teens" - see lesson 2.

lesson 4: its been done before. no one cared. it failed. see lesson 3

whats next genius? are you coming out with a new porn browser with really cool tools? you can call it The Ultimate Ultimate Browser!

:1orglaugh

Wait a minute: KB involved in another controversial situation? Say it ain't so!

I'll bite. Unless our "brands" arn't strong enough ;)

There are a few initial thoughts:

Profit in the product. If it is to be sold in an adult store, the wholesale price will be less than $10 for a $24.95 price point product. I have yet to see an adult store that does not retail price it's products less than 2 1/2 times cost.

Delivery of the product. I can assume that distributors are going to receive a discounted price on that, so the cards will be a few dollars less than that... so $6-7 dollars. Now the costs from this company to do business... bringing the net profit to be split among the provider and web developer to maybe $3.

Acceptance of the product. As many people have indicated in this thread and other threads, this idea has been tried many times before. I remember adult stores attempting this as far back as 98/99. Every time a product similar to this has come on the market it has been an extremely hard sell to consumers, and typically has to be blown out because of lack of consumer interest. So now you also deal with part of your sales force (adult stores) not wanting to try this product again.

Not to mention the amount of money it will take to brand this company and educate consumers. I'm glad I don't own stock in this, since it's a product that has an uphill battle for acceptance.

The only benefit I could see is if I am prepaid for sales of the card, while they sits on a store shelf gaining dust. But the added hassle of adding a this type of service, then changing it once it fails seems hardly worth the $2.

Maybe i'm missing a few things here?

PV is the first truly anonymous design for transactions on the adult industry


There is 0 risk of identity theft
This card is aimed at the millions of people who will never give out their cc. info


PV is a cash based system- completing eliminating any chargebacks
Our processing fees are 50% less and we drive traffic at no additional cost.


Retailers are always looking for new products that drive revenue.
Our system is designed to facilitate online and offline purchases bridging the gap.


This company has been in alternative processing for over 13 years and has processed millions of dollars for taxpayers.

They have had 100% uptime througout their history
Our system was designed to facilitate ease of use for the consumer and protecting their identity and protecting the merchant as well- it is customizable for the merchant and doesn?t cost the merchant anything- no set up fees or escrow accounts.

Incremental revenue-
Our ability to drive traffic through national media will reach tens of millions of people everyday to not only showcase our brand but their brand as well.

If you don't think we have the national media's attention then just you wait-

Hate all you want- but when you hear all about us daily and get so sick of hearing about PV- you'll all remember this post.

And be customers.

Research who is behind this company before you ignorantly bash something that is going to be VERY good for everyone.
:-))

For now, my lips are sealed.
Come to the Erotica LA and see us!

Oh and PS we are NOT a prepaid card.
We are a STORED VALUE card.
I'd liken us more to an "adult pay pal"

You'll all be hearing plenty more...but not from me
:-))

KB rocks. he is the punch line of many convention jokes and stories.

pathetic

Christ I really should read the whole thread before I reply.

You can go to CVS right now and get instant-on anonymous visa/mc credit cards.. Smart eh?

KB,

you better have a damm good distrubution line setup..

that's one of many reasons these cards didn't make it...

phone cards made it but that's a different story, product and niche :)

i like how he signs his posts ":-))"

what a crock

You kinda get-
But it goes much much deeper than that.

How about the people who hate being spammed, or triple billed,or cross sold?
I amnot knocking the way we do business online people and recurring billing will be around for a while...

VOD is here- and people will love this card for that reason as well.
PS we'll be in close to 100,000 retail locations very soon.
PPPCard will not.

Bro- I have the BEST distribution in place.
I just cannot say anything for the time being.

That's for the PR department to do-
I am not their PR person.
:-))

phone cards made it because the call time is extremely cheap. almost all phone cards are bought by immigrants calling out of country. unless they plan to offer access to sites for 2.99/mo - i don't see any comparisson to phone cards :)

Would you call it "the ultimate ultimate distribution"???

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WHAHAHAH whatever you say. Is this just as good as foundrynap? You said that was great as well. lol lol, and I do forget all your other GREAT failures...

But who knows...Time will tell...

Well my point was the "card thing" itself.. guess there could of been a better example.

I don't like to talk down on a new product or service but I just don't think this can make it.

most people have a credit card or even a debit / check card. you can buy anon cards everywhere - I even see them in my local Safeway..

I guess if you really spent the mill's to brand it as anon, no problems with identity theft / credit card theft you have a chance but......

I'd be more inclinded to start a "epass" type of system - the coin will be much better..

Good fucking luck with that. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

what were you thinking when you choose the name pure vanilla??? lol

Few suggestions

1) hire a designer
2) hire a programer
3) quit ripping off stock photos, cuz if you paid for them, you would be stuck with those sample sizes.
5) Seek therapy, cuz sooner or later all your failures are gonna become unblocked in your subconscious mind and you're gonna end up a potato.

:) Do prepaid VISA cards (gift cards) that anyone can buy anywhere work when joining a pornsite? Just wondering since I never tried and like the option of a third party involved when buying online. Thanks.

Yes, Visa gift cards can be used online. Anywhere that you can use a Visa debit card, you can use a Visa gift card.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

this is the funniest fucking thread i have read all year.....

So this is really no different than any adult prepaid card. It actually reminds me of Swoit with a twist...lol...remember swoit would add your site to their network and then if that end user accessed your site from within swoit, you would get paid .000001 cent per minute that they were on your site....lol

This has to be a similar setup...enduser will purchase prepaid card from some retailer...ie bar/nightclub, adult bookstore, possibly convenient stores if you can convince them to add your product to their shelves. The end user will then go to a portal that contains sites (probably by niche) that accepts these prepaid sites. Am I on the right track?


I see plenty of flaws with this as many others who have ventured into prepaid cards and probably experienced themselves.

Distributions, splits, costs, the ability to convince site owners to add this pay option to their join page as well as manage the password system or even create a mirrored members area that is exclusive for this type of transaction, etc....

I run a small operation like this but I'm the distributor and site owner. It works well for me in the sense that it creates a buzz for my bar which brings in customers. It is more of a novelty that create cash flow that I can dump back into the business.

Thanks:)

I told you you were a wanker

your " end-all-be-all " idea is a prepaid porn card?

Atleast this thread made me laugh, You dont even know what your selling.
Quoted from https://www.purevanilla.com/AboutWhat.aspx: Pure Vanilla is popular with consumers because its unique payment option is anonymous, time-efficient, and pre-paid.

Anyways best of luck, you will need it

"Pure Vanilla is popular with consumers because its unique payment option is anonymous, time-efficient, and pre-paid"

......why is this considered unique at all? The advantage already to most prepaid cards on the market already is being anonymous and "prepaid" :Hollering

I don't get it.

What, only one bucket? Hell no.

Hey now, KB went out and bought 2 new suits for this! This is "the corporate" world, baby!! :)

haha

the fact he posted that he bought 2 new suits tells me what a worthless pile of shit he is. i hope he rots in hell after he gets hit by a bus.

I could have seen this doing much better if it was introduced at the time that third party billing is finnished and there are no alteratives left to bill adult transactions.

I am trying to sell my program for prepaid online confessions. I really think that there is a market. Imagine confessing your sins to a real live Outsourced Filipino Priest ONLINE! I need someone to write me a program for a good Hail Mary Randomizer to automate the Penance declarations. any good programmers out there?

classic KB thread hahaha

hahaha... what a classic thread... typical KB.

"i am gonna change the world.."

"big announcement coming soon..."

"are you ready.."

"you won't believe it..."

"ok, here it is. our scientists have figured out how to mold plastic and metal into a pronged utensil which we are calling a "fork". this "fork" will allow people to eat food without using their fingers anymore"

"what? of course its revelutionary".... "huh? what do you mean? you have never seen anything like this before"

"you guys are just haters"