50,.......... :glugglug

94 LLC? 94 was one of the worst BDX years, even 97 which was far from spectacular, was a better year.
re: flat - BDX goes into a dumb stage fast, withing 2-3 years and stays flat often for no less than 8, with few exceptions like...2003.
I have a nice LLC vertical:
96, 2000, '03 and 96 will be ready in about 5 years. Don't commit infanticide with good BDX, it's a REAL crime.

Speaking of cute, I'm tempted to post a really nice pic of 12clicks, but I think he'd jump through my screen and strangle me if I did ;)

can you stop talking fashions?
we now talk serious stuff- Bordeaux!

I like mixing beer and wine. You feel GREAT the next day!

This is why I've moved away from bordeaux. I don't want to have to guess when its closed or guess how many hours I'll have to decant it to get it to open. I know 94 isn't a great year but a wine of that quality should give you *something*
I've got some interesting bordeaux sitting in the cellar, 86 margaux, 20yr verticle of mouton, etc. I just burn thru so much wine, I can't spend all my allowence on french waiting 15 years to crack one.

I can't remember if the cause of that picture was the result of too much wine or too many martinis.


oh, it was martinis.

to each it's own....I have Mouton vertical going from 1983 and I skip the so-so years. As for guessing...posting for 2 years on wine boards was a great educational expereince.

here is my official TN for 2001 Rudd, pass it to Mojo
;)

• 2001 Rudd Cabernet Sauvignon Estate Grown Oakville - USA, California, Napa Valley, Oakville (6/21/2006)
  Technically speaking that was a flawless wine - balanced, concentrated, all done well but...it was lacking dimensions. Fruit, toasted oak...and that was it. The wine hasn't touched the soul. I am very prejudice against toasted oak and this probably shows in the impression of the wine. But if you like that sort of thing and not aversed to toasted oak - you'll enjoy this one, it's ready and I just don't see it going anywhere from here. Lacks certain acidity, which was another "nisht-nisht". (92 pts.)

don't get too hung up on Rudd, its my everyday drinker, not my all time favorite. :winkwink:
I'm thinking I'd reserve that title for 97 Pride reserve cab followed closely by 95 shafer hillside sellect. I've got some of the shafer in the cellar and its all I can do to lay off it.

P.S. 86 year will be ready, especially 1st growth, in about 5 more years. I'll gladly take '86 Margaux off your hands, just e-mail me the price

I had one bottle and glad I don't have any more. I like 'em like I like women...with more fireworks, flair and versatility.
:)

haha, nah, I'm keeping that case for my retirement. it may be ready in 5 but I don't want to drink it until its a thirty year old.

haha, stop. you're killing me. fireworks and flair? Listen, I like bordeaux, its just currently overpriced, difficult, and hit or miss.

why do you wanna work for so long? Aren't you bored enough already????
:)

hey, here's a wine from left field that will knock your socks off if you can find it. it runs about 60 bucks.
gibson shiraz 2002. open it, let it decant for exactly 1 hour. then drink it completely in an hour.
The nose out of the bottle will be nothing. after decanting, it will smell just like a jar of caramel to the point of almost being overpowering. The taste is fantastic. caramel but not overpowering. After about an hour and a half, it gives up the ghost and returns to its just out of the bottle nothingness.
I've never tasted a wine with such a dramatic transformation.

me? stop talking about wine??? Sorry, no can do, unless you would rather talk fashions and shirts
;)

It is not overpriced if you know what to look for...1996 provides-
great vintage (left bank only, avoid right bank)
age
price 1/2-1/3 compared to 2003 and 2005

You can't miss and they are available in NYC area, I buy them there.

I'm young. you know how much it costs to retire young? all the sudden, its spend spend spend without the make make make. I think I'll make a little while longer.

I don't like shiraz anymore...sign of an age. The older you become, the more you apreciate the finess. Good impression, BTW, I liked your description.

I hear you.....I forget sometimes that my children are older than yours.

I actually have all the first growths in 96 and a good bit of calon segur in 96, sadly the calon is all drunk except for a case of mags but yeah, 96 is alright but if your talking about a good cali from 96, its drinking great.

no, this is different. its worth trying only because its so different for a shiraz. you don;t have the sickening sweetness a lot of the shiraz in that price range have.

ok, here is the deal...
when you get to Florida -
we'll spend a nite in my cellar, when we get to NJ -
we spend a nite in yours.

I'd rather drink 'em than talk about them anyway
;)

we'll see.:winkwink:

jesus christ talking about wine is boring? talk about trains or something else :)

There are cellars in Florida?!
WOW! Where? I recently learned of these things called 'basements' being a native ;)

yeah...let's talk about..ME!

sorry, Ron!

http://cotac.com/6-11/serge2.jpg

and

http://cotac.com/6-11/serge1.jpg

oh yeah, there are...with generator in case of hurricanes and they can keep a few hundred thousands bottles
;)

uh, if I come to florida, I won't be drinking wine out of those little "cups":winkwink:

actualy that shot was made in NJ in John's house.

when you get to Florida,
you'll have Reidel and the whole 9 yards
;)

http://cotac.com/6-11/barbera.jpg

Serge that's awesome! This I gotta see! :) Would be a first for me. I'm pursuing as many of those as possible (firsts) before I turn 30 :)

begging? you've been asked. you chickend out.

i didn't hear me asking again.


maybe you keep THINKING that..... but dillusional employees wih thoughts of grandure do that....

wow, this thread got boring real fast.

Serge dont ya have you rown board for wine talking

...and who the fuck are you to tell ME what I should and I should not talk about? You sound like somebody who hasn't heard "fuck you, cunt" for a long time.....

and this is your problem Sleazy...you don't ask again. Your last guest, Ben from Holland, was chickening out the big time from the questions posted and...I didn't hear YOU asking again and tough questions.

C'mon, admit that the reason you don't ask the tough questions is because you just don't know WHAT to ask!
:)

this is the most boring pissing match i've ever seen.... is this what happens when once pissing allstars get old????

Kman,
make this thread fun and tell everybody the story of your last visit of USA with your "friend" and how he went thru the passport control. If you don't do it,
I will in the separate thread so everybody can get a good laugh.

There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true.
Winston Churchill

Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.
--Mark Twain

Knowledge is just opinion that you trust enough to act upon.
--O.S. Card

Dogs look up to you. Cats look down on you. Give me a pig. He just looks you in the eye and treats you like an equal. - Winston Churchill

:)

I don't know where anyone got the idea that Serge and I were pissing.

if we were, no one would mistake it for anything else.

I can piss with you.....

Which is your favorite Burgundy vintage in the last 40 years and why?
:)

I am afraid those who suggested we should piss will take a nap...
;)

people love to see blood poured while we prefer wine.


again, burgundy is too hit or miss. some are wonderful, most are not.

now an Henri Bonneau Châteauneuf-du-Pape Réserve des Célestins is a wonderful burgundy tasting wine that I love.
hard to come by but very nice.

From the master, Heinlein on cats and pigs:

"While the rest of the human race are descended from monkeys, redheads derive from cats."

?Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.?

?Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.?

they are only hit and miss if you don't have a firm grip on your favorite producers.. I don't call Burg gambling anymore, 'cuz I do.

Hey Guys I found the perfect wine for you to try

'Cat's pee' sweet smell of success for NZealand wine - A wine with a whiff of "cat's pee on a gooseberry bush" has transformed Marlborough's Wairau Valley from scruffy farming country into New Zealand's wine capital in just three decades.

The sauvignon blanc grape has been the making of New Zealand's wine industry and especially of the largest winemaking area Marlborough, which lies at the northeast tip of the country's South Island.

The pungent wine divides drinkers and critics but its unique racy character has won a legion of fans in Britain and more recently the United States.

For the record, the "cat's pee on a gooseberry bush" description -- usually attributed to British wine critic Oz Clarke -- was a compliment.

OMG :1orglaugh :helpme

Just though ya could use the members

O and i live in the uk so i hear that alot :)

Also whats a nice bottle i can get in the uk for 40 pounds red please

Is that Dill or Sweet Relish?

Big B

PS.. 12clicks.. DROP THE MEGAPHONE !!