I care about the silent ones who do NOT threaten and...just do it.
:)

put down your mom's computer and clean your room.

don't hold against him that he preffers Napa over well aged Bordeaux...he'll learn.
:)

Is 12clicks the one that wears horrible shirts?

completely untrue!

Sadly, very few bordeaux live up to their billing.
Give me a well aged Napa any day, a well aged bordeaux only if its exceptional.

if you had a www.cellartracker.com I'd browse thru your cellar and relive you of aged BDX.
(One can now ship wine to Florida)

I despise toasted oak Napa is notorious for. I had a bottle of Rudd 2001 (Red label) for dinner....and toasted oak just kills me!

P.S. are you buying any '05 BDX futures?

yes, yes I am.

The 2000 was much tastier young but the 01 is good. its definately a different style but I've had too many flat french wines to chase them.
I popped a Leoville Las Cases 1994 two nights ago, after a 2 hour decant, the nose came along but the taste never did.

Oh, and my current favorite cali is Peter Michael Les Pavots. (bordeaux style blend. haha

No, he has cute shirts.

50,.......... :glugglug

94 LLC? 94 was one of the worst BDX years, even 97 which was far from spectacular, was a better year.
re: flat - BDX goes into a dumb stage fast, withing 2-3 years and stays flat often for no less than 8, with few exceptions like...2003.
I have a nice LLC vertical:
96, 2000, '03 and 96 will be ready in about 5 years. Don't commit infanticide with good BDX, it's a REAL crime.

Speaking of cute, I'm tempted to post a really nice pic of 12clicks, but I think he'd jump through my screen and strangle me if I did ;)

can you stop talking fashions?
we now talk serious stuff- Bordeaux!

I like mixing beer and wine. You feel GREAT the next day!

This is why I've moved away from bordeaux. I don't want to have to guess when its closed or guess how many hours I'll have to decant it to get it to open. I know 94 isn't a great year but a wine of that quality should give you *something*
I've got some interesting bordeaux sitting in the cellar, 86 margaux, 20yr verticle of mouton, etc. I just burn thru so much wine, I can't spend all my allowence on french waiting 15 years to crack one.

I can't remember if the cause of that picture was the result of too much wine or too many martinis.


oh, it was martinis.

to each it's own....I have Mouton vertical going from 1983 and I skip the so-so years. As for guessing...posting for 2 years on wine boards was a great educational expereince.

here is my official TN for 2001 Rudd, pass it to Mojo
;)

• 2001 Rudd Cabernet Sauvignon Estate Grown Oakville - USA, California, Napa Valley, Oakville (6/21/2006)
  Technically speaking that was a flawless wine - balanced, concentrated, all done well but...it was lacking dimensions. Fruit, toasted oak...and that was it. The wine hasn't touched the soul. I am very prejudice against toasted oak and this probably shows in the impression of the wine. But if you like that sort of thing and not aversed to toasted oak - you'll enjoy this one, it's ready and I just don't see it going anywhere from here. Lacks certain acidity, which was another "nisht-nisht". (92 pts.)

don't get too hung up on Rudd, its my everyday drinker, not my all time favorite. :winkwink:
I'm thinking I'd reserve that title for 97 Pride reserve cab followed closely by 95 shafer hillside sellect. I've got some of the shafer in the cellar and its all I can do to lay off it.

P.S. 86 year will be ready, especially 1st growth, in about 5 more years. I'll gladly take '86 Margaux off your hands, just e-mail me the price

I had one bottle and glad I don't have any more. I like 'em like I like women...with more fireworks, flair and versatility.
:)

haha, nah, I'm keeping that case for my retirement. it may be ready in 5 but I don't want to drink it until its a thirty year old.

haha, stop. you're killing me. fireworks and flair? Listen, I like bordeaux, its just currently overpriced, difficult, and hit or miss.

why do you wanna work for so long? Aren't you bored enough already????
:)

hey, here's a wine from left field that will knock your socks off if you can find it. it runs about 60 bucks.
gibson shiraz 2002. open it, let it decant for exactly 1 hour. then drink it completely in an hour.
The nose out of the bottle will be nothing. after decanting, it will smell just like a jar of caramel to the point of almost being overpowering. The taste is fantastic. caramel but not overpowering. After about an hour and a half, it gives up the ghost and returns to its just out of the bottle nothingness.
I've never tasted a wine with such a dramatic transformation.

me? stop talking about wine??? Sorry, no can do, unless you would rather talk fashions and shirts
;)

It is not overpriced if you know what to look for...1996 provides-
great vintage (left bank only, avoid right bank)
age
price 1/2-1/3 compared to 2003 and 2005

You can't miss and they are available in NYC area, I buy them there.

I'm young. you know how much it costs to retire young? all the sudden, its spend spend spend without the make make make. I think I'll make a little while longer.

I don't like shiraz anymore...sign of an age. The older you become, the more you apreciate the finess. Good impression, BTW, I liked your description.

I hear you.....I forget sometimes that my children are older than yours.

I actually have all the first growths in 96 and a good bit of calon segur in 96, sadly the calon is all drunk except for a case of mags but yeah, 96 is alright but if your talking about a good cali from 96, its drinking great.

no, this is different. its worth trying only because its so different for a shiraz. you don;t have the sickening sweetness a lot of the shiraz in that price range have.

ok, here is the deal...
when you get to Florida -
we'll spend a nite in my cellar, when we get to NJ -
we spend a nite in yours.

I'd rather drink 'em than talk about them anyway
;)

we'll see.:winkwink:

jesus christ talking about wine is boring? talk about trains or something else :)

There are cellars in Florida?!
WOW! Where? I recently learned of these things called 'basements' being a native ;)

yeah...let's talk about..ME!

sorry, Ron!

http://cotac.com/6-11/serge2.jpg

and

http://cotac.com/6-11/serge1.jpg

oh yeah, there are...with generator in case of hurricanes and they can keep a few hundred thousands bottles
;)

uh, if I come to florida, I won't be drinking wine out of those little "cups":winkwink:

actualy that shot was made in NJ in John's house.

when you get to Florida,
you'll have Reidel and the whole 9 yards
;)

http://cotac.com/6-11/barbera.jpg

Serge that's awesome! This I gotta see! :) Would be a first for me. I'm pursuing as many of those as possible (firsts) before I turn 30 :)