Agreed. However I started in Oct. 2005 but have been a freelance win32/web application developer for 8 years. My knowledge with seo/protocols/development/webmastering was already established through mainstream. However the first adult site I launched was a huge failure. Took 2 more to get it right. But now it's pretty solid, atleast I think so. But I'm not a big swinging dick by anymeans. I make about as much as the dude on frys at McDonalds (for now).

You don't know jack shit. Juicy and I work together, and alone I do 100-200 sales per day, you have no idea what he makes. Juicy is a postwhore, but thats not the only skill he has.

:321GFY

bro dont waste your time , GFY is full of haters i cant please everyone, i only cater to the ones that matter....we down for dinner this week bro?

that picture of hal is just freaky

I'd like to have a solid foundation.

Can anyone teach me?

:)

Yeah, let's get some surf and turf... but only if you pay :1orglaugh

Anthony!!!!!!!!!!!!! see ya in Vegas ?????

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Never assume. :D

werd......

When I first started working life, the practise in almost every business was that you started at the bottom and slowly climbed the ladder, learning every job along the way. And stepping into "dead mens' shoes" was about the only way you were ever going to get promoted.

That was such a frustrating progression, it is probably the main reason that I soon decided to go work for myself. I decided very early on that a boss really didn't need to be able to do someone else's job: only to be able to recognize whether he or she was doing it properly. It isn't even necessary to be able to determine what someone is doing wrong. It is enough to know that the result is not what is required.

Wrong or right, believing that left me free to feel it was okay to get into a variety of businesses about which I knew absolutely nothing (the only formal training I ever had was in chartered accountancy) and although I cannot say I have never made a mistake, overall everything I did was successful.

In fact online porn is the first thing I ever tackled as a one-man band and I wish circumstances had not made that necessary. I have been forced to achieve some degree of competency in everything that goes into operating web sites, but I would be kidding myself if I were to believe there are not many people in every aspect of the job who make me look like a rank amateur.

The experience has confirmed that my talent is definitely not for doing, but for seeing the big picture, hiring the right people and getting the best out of them. I don't quite know how you establish a foundation for that, except by getting on with it and producing results.

timing was everything in this biz

one should learn the basics and then move on and not vice versa

It was never anything other than that Juicy and totally agree man :thumbsup




PS Below ... how cheap can it be to have a mouth stitched up? I'll pay :winkwink:

Good points, Juicy D.

im building my foundation as we speak.

i came into this business with a couple domains i had owned for a few years, and the desire to make it work.

i had a decent amount of coding experience (as a hobbyist) so i figured i would start a tgp since that was what i enjoyed surfing.

so i went with it.

i surfed to lightspeedcash, and stumbled into the world of affiliate marketing.
i dumped a bunch of their FHG on heres-some-porn.com, painted it pink, and waited for the money to come rolling in.

as you guys all know, 3 days later and im a millionaire! :winkwink:

i guess im about 4 months into it now, and im either gonna buy an island or a basketball team.

back here in reality, im learning more every day, trying new ideas and coming up with tons more.

i have written my own CMS (didnt know i was writing a 'CMS' at the time) :)
my own trade script (without every actually seeing a trade script, or how it should work)
i wrote the backend for my ad rotation system
designed the sites, did the art work
i have learned a little about buying traffic, and how much bought traffic can suck. :(
im discovering ways to make that traffic more useful, and am experimenting with more all the time.

ive met a bunch of awesome people on the boards, and have had the pleasure to learn from a lot of you.
i went to my first show today, and met up with some very cool people.

thanks everybody :)

i knew this business wouldnt be easy, but i gotta tell ya, i was a little surprised at how it actually is.

so to summarize:

no foundation to speak of. (noob)
trying really hard to build one. (hardworking noob)
love you all. (mean it)
this is hard work. (pimpin aint easy)

thank you for letting me share
-John

or if you only read the last line of this post:

yeah i know where your coming from Bro

http://people.surfaceeffect.com/pete...pisa/tower.jpg

Macchiavelli also had an excerpt from The prince whereby he states that man should not build a foundation from mud

i sale cheap foundation

Excellent stuff John! :thumbsup

It is very useful knowing some languages or having coding experience - there is no limit to what can be generated or automated.

I can always do 30 tgp designs per month @ $150/piece if all else fails. :1orglaugh

true that

We love you, too. :)

preach it brother. it aint 2000 anymore.