Why would Jace lie about running all those forums for them , it would mean he was getting paid.

wee the evil twin you youtube!

Im with Jace on this one...while Im no real fan of free porn I dont see how this is any different than a TGP or an MGP really...just another tool I can use to get some traffic at the expense of my content going into the public domain...but at leasdt I dont have to pay anyone to put it there and I dont have to pay the bandwidth....

Of course you are, you produce your own content.

Now, for the rest of the webmasters who don't... and who are the majority.

Different story.

every webmaster can produce their own content...
if Jace can do it,
anybody can do it!!!!
Here is his latest:

http://pornotube.com/media.php?m=2046

I am producing my own content as we spea---a-a-a-a-a-a-k.....
(Gosh, that was good!)
and I'll be submitting it 3 times a day....

double...............

AEBN eliminates the middle men - the webmasters.

I see no problems with that.

I see a system that will do nothing except encourage minors to publish crap filmed with video cell phones. Publishing porn without 2257 documents in hand is a pretty risky legal move.

I have to shake my head at this one. Putting YOUR content on pornotube or youtube or yahoo, or wherever DOES NOT place that content into the public domain.

The planets must be in alignment...

Alex and I agreeing on a subject.

I can die a happy man.

Pornotube isn't that different from TGP/MGPs...if you check the site, most of the videos right now are the smaller teaser videos sponsors are giving affiliates already.

It certainly doesn't help to have another avenue for free porn, but it's not like you can say shutdown this and not call for every other source of free porn on the net to be shutdown as well. A wait and see attitude is what should apply for the moment...as long as Pornotube has some regulations to stop what gets uploaded, etc. it's no different than an MGP.

It probably will change the role of affiliates...sponsors could dump their teaser clips on pornotube and the affiliate gets removed from the equation completely.

Headed that way as fast as I can

Good post Blue.

The original thread about pornotube last week, there were 100mb files in there. They now seem to have disappeared, as they read the thread.

Teaser clips are not 100mb, more like 500kb to 1mb. You may not be aware that they allow up to 100mb to be uploaded, which might change your views a little.

Yeah I just go out and buy a video camera and the local girls will jump all over me to shoot them fucking. Besides with all the 2257 laws and other crap it's simply not worth it to prodcuce my own content. I'm sure they guys over at COHF had the proper 2257 stuff and they still got busted.

do it the easy way!

http://pornotube.com/media.php?m=2046

be your own model!

100mb is just a little bit of insanity, however, if the person does hold the copyright / 2257 info, and they basically want to ruin their site / program by giving a 100mb clip that still falls into the category of their own folly.

I'm looking at it this way, Pornotube can more or less usurp MGPs if it's done right and they're adopting the popular youtube format. As long as they make sure certain rules, etc, are followed and this doesn't become a haven for copyright infringement or illegal videos, it can be a good thing for certain industry players (the general affiliate could get screwed out of this system though).

Right now I think the jury is still out on it...they're beta testing, if when it goes live it's a disaster of copyright infringement, etc, I'm sure it won't take long before the lawyers are knocking at AEBN's door...if illegal videos are posted, I'm sure Alberto Gonzales will be knocking on their door, lol.

So, wait and see attitude at the moment from me. If it becomes a cluster-fuck of problems it'll implode on itself with no action required from webmasters.

I believe you may be right, on all accounts.

Webmaster gets the shaft, policing it might be too much of a problem...

Life is all about the carma. You hurt, or try to hurt, their business and yours will suffer.

I do not care if you make $1 or $1 million per day... just trying to rule out "chance" from your 20%

It is much more likely to be chance if you make 20% more on $50/day, than if you make 20% more on $50.000/day

:2 cents:

This is some great publicity for porntube.com

Wise ppl say; "All publicity is good publicity"

Yes, GUBA has been making a killing from GFY :helpme

exactly!!!!

# 1198 site on Alexa, thanks to NOTHING but publicity on GFY!

Feel free to add to, or blast my thoughts ...

Nowhere did I see what we all have to comply with .... 2257

Anyone making home movies with their cell-phone can't and won't meet 2257 requirements.

Copyright infringement will be rampant.

Hopefully the Feds will see this type of "business model" as fostering criminal behavior. What else is it? Where did the officers of this corporation think their content was going to come from ... Vivid?

If unauthorized content is removed from YouTube you have teens on skateboards playing air guitar. However YouTube's content doesn't carry a five year federal jail term if the paperwork is incorrect.

Folks, you are all MORONS and Jace is right.

click
http://www.justjace.com/
and click for advice.
I know some folks who PAY for advice like that.

The business has been destroying itself with free content for years. This is just the next stept.

Wait until someone starts uploading Perfect 10 content to that site.

The lawsuits will start quickly.

What about 2257 also?

Its ironic that AEBN will use the $ they made/make from their PPV business to more or less attack the same people who have been sending them traffic for years (small webmasters/affiliates).

AEBN might believe that no one else "has the balls to make another YouTube clone"... well, I willing to bet that the first 100 of you are already working on beating AEBN. That is how the adult market works :2 cents:

Put your head back in the sand

They will do as the freehosts did... "sorry, we didn´t know" and then remove the files.

2257 ... according to AEBN, then "No one else has the balls or the bandwidth to do this on a large scale.", which would imply that they have the 2257 issue under control?

You don't even know how right you are.

Nawwwww Dre................come on now ..."surfer driven traffic" is and now the future...its started with p2p...the migration of surfers leaving traditional mgps/tgps and why not? What would you want to go to a mgp that has millions of people going to it, yet it seems to be a ghost town to the surfer, what i mean is the surfer now wants to be involved in the clips and comments, community etc....

We as webmasters and program owners need to "move" to the next level of doing business in adult..if not get another job.

I have been watching the flow and changes of this traffic trend, and it?s very exciting, the same way we harnessed the P2P traffic 6 years ago.

Instead of crying about all the content out there for free, think of the smart ways to make money with this new way of doing biz.............

I like the new internet 2.2.......There is some even newer shit rolling out that is far more exciting than what porn tube or x tube is doing, but its been a blast watching the changing ...change is good ....embrace it ...its hear to stay.:thumbsup


Here are some stats for you.....

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That is some traffic back to our main systems for about 1 1/2 months.....on one of those networks....figure it out... lol

hey, AEBN, I have a question...can I upload a sexy manatee as well?
What are your plans for animals category?

Congrats Mike.

I think this is the third time I will say this, you are a sponsor, and have your own content.

Now please tell me where does this leave the free site webmaster, aka as the affiliate.

Anthony,
"affiliate" is a middleman, expense, source of fraud and should be phazed out of the food chain. THAT is reality of TODAY.

Anthony................hey man, you going to be in Las Vegas....

Easy, you send us an email or webmaster does, we will burn url or offer up "raw content" for sales, and send back to a main url to track. We did the very same thing in the "old days" of p2p six years ago...with a simple mpg with water mark burned into file, no tricks just the surfer going there to see what else was there....

See you in Lost Wages......:thumbsup

Mike,

That's really the only way to do it, really. I know smashbucks.com is one of the best when it comes to affiliate relationships, as this is not a small undertaking with thousands of affliates.

My thoughts are not many others would do that, and keep the full enchilada to themselves.

To answer your original question, yeppers, I'll be there, working on my tan next to you. Always good to catch up with my homeboys! :)

Good points Mike

It's hard to compete in a total free for all, if only sponsors were allowed to UPLOAD content it would be a diff story, or affiliate allowed to describe and upload clips with their code/link would be fair and more profitable for everyone.

There are a number of ways to capitialize on these obvious user demands for both community/interactivity and free content.

They key is BRAND BRAND BRAND EVERY FRAME or PIC and create as many revenue models as possible. I wrote about this AGAIN in an article recently http://www.cozyfrog.com/guides/money...nueOptions.asp

Memberships seems to be dying as people want more .. either to collect tangibly or to share with friends. Viral content is powerful but as people trust privacy on computers/internet online they may want something they can view/hide offline as well .. plus tangibles like DVDs and customizably created content created by the user, compiled and sent to the consumer, tangibles are more difficult to charge back upon acquiring a signature or confirmation on delivery :)

All kinds of good ideas!

Which is why I loved the Manatee, when he tried to make "old timer" into a bad term :1orglaugh

Anthony....thanks for those very nice words, we have worked very hard over the years to create those relationships.

There is something i will tell you when we are getting sun in LV.. oh and i have a great Cuban cigar with you name all over it.! You have to come over and hang with us in the "smoking cabana" cocktails are on us......:thumbsup

Cheers old boy! Nothing like a good stoogie with friends, planning for the future! :):):)

Here's the first illegal one I believe 17mins long...

http://www.pornotube.com/media.php?m=1930

Like I said it is ironic, that the people who have sent traffic to AEBN for years (TGPs, MGPs, webmasters/affiliates, paysite owners with studio licensed content etc.) will now see AEBN trying to eliminate them from the food chain.

No, that is just Alisha Klass and other porn stars who are blowing a lucky surfer, who then uploaded this 80MB movie to prove that it really happened :1orglaugh

Of course AEBN are already aware of this, however their programmer was stuck in traffic, so they had no chance to remove this movie, before you found it :1orglaugh

Maybe Perfect Gonzo can tell if they have seen an increase in typins to ass traffic, since they started uploading 20 mins videos to AEBN?

http://www.pornotube.com/media.php?m=461

I love your advice column

I think the answer deserves its own thread, so it will not take away from this thread topic... please go here to respond http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/628001-perfectgonzo-asstraffic-com-aebn.html

Thanks :thumbsup