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woj 06-30-2006 02:10 PM
100.........

acctman 06-30-2006 02:51 PM
i didn't know about Pornotube.com but now i do... thanks =)

Martin 06-30-2006 02:55 PM
How can this thing be any different then the other ways for surfers to get free porn? If you had your own paysite you could upload sample clips with your url on there and get free traffic..

Hollywood376 06-30-2006 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jace
fuck me with a dead racoon
Trust me, it's not as much fun as it sounds. Sorry I missed you in Lexington!

V_RocKs 06-30-2006 03:07 PM
Funny... Everyone attacking Jace...

All Jace is doing is using PornoTube as a free hosting service that will play the video from inside his blog.

Did anyone who attacked him even look at his blogs? Had you done a little research it'd be obvious that he is completely within the rights afforded to him by the sponsors to host a video in this way.

This is the way PornoTube can make you a gang of cash. It is when people surf pornotube itself that you lose money because some surfer can upload a video instead of a video CLIP which is what Jace is doing. Uploading video CLIPS... He actually serves less porn per post than everyone who posts galleries to an MGP. They post 4 to 6 clips... Jace has one.

So tell me again how Jace is the enemy?

You are all sheep by the way... behhh behhh... Run and do your stampede you retarded fucks...

QuaWee 06-30-2006 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by headless ghost
Way to go assholes!
Keep bumping the thread and sending them traffic!
You imbeciles are the best imbeciles on the entire inter-web!
you are bunping the thread yourself

polish_aristocrat 06-30-2006 04:18 PM
i am enjoying a 17 minutes pornotube video right now....... :winkwink:









but from the business perspective I am definitely against sites like this :2 cents:

L-Pink 06-30-2006 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin
How can this thing be any different then the other ways for surfers to get free porn? If you had your own paysite you could upload sample clips with your url on there and get free traffic..


Thousands of clips ... some 10-20 minutes?

GatorB 06-30-2006 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by L-Pink
Nowhere did I see what we all have to comply with .... 2257
from thier TOS

"5. User Submissions

B. You shall be solely responsible for your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them. In connection with User Submissions, you affirm, represent, and/or warrant that:

you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize PornoTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service."

Dagwolf 06-30-2006 05:54 PM
2-second clips with your site logo. :thumbsup Lots of them...

Relish XXX 06-30-2006 06:17 PM
I jut spammed the shit out of it with teaser videos and pictures. I have done over 300 hits per video and I just uploaded 50 so I am doing ok. My content is exclusive to me so I am cool.

ridikuloz 06-30-2006 06:23 PM
put fake porn movies with scary things popping up in the middle of them

DoogleBoogle 06-30-2006 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridikuloz
put fake porn movies with scary things popping up in the middle of them
YES THANK YOU .... Lets stop arguing..let people who want porntube to stay just ramble on....lets spend time adding shitty videos and making it SHITTUBE.com

StickyGreen 06-30-2006 06:42 PM
free porn is fucking everything up...

L-Pink 06-30-2006 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorB
you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize PornoTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service

This means what?

I could open a porn site, allow submissions from content producers that promise all girls are of age? And they have necessary paperwork? Now I am authorized to use the content? Legally?

Is the loop-hole letting content providers make their own "user submissions" to my site?

I pay some guy $3000. for a dead laptop ... he in turn makes a user submission of content ... his own or pirated?

Enlighten me ....... :disgust

whorehole 06-30-2006 07:49 PM
That yahoo! video thing is interesting- I just tried to "upload a video" and it just keeps going back to the same page.

Did they shut down uploads or something?

minusonebit 06-30-2006 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Relish XXX
I will sit here an add all my 80's music videos. Trust me I have millions.
Oh, can I have some?

E$_manager 06-30-2006 08:46 PM
no, free porn is bad :(:disgust

bknoob 06-30-2006 08:50 PM
if the video files on pornotube are just promo materials, I don't see how it's different from a standard MGP site.

tenderobject 06-30-2006 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jace
what I make is what I make, not for anyone else to worry about....all that matters is that I saw an increase of click throughs because of the ways I am using it....why are you all so caught up on a dollar figure that people make? if I am comfortable and happy with it, it is no concern of others.

content is being given away for free constantly, everywhere you look around is another tgp/mgp with hundreds of hours of jack off material

while I don't agree that a 100mb video needs to be on there, I also think that aebn knows what they are doing and I doubt you will see any 100mb full scenes on there..or have you found one already and you just haven't posted it? Just like youtube, any service like this is going to run into people that wanna use it for copyright violations, and hopefully aebn, just like youtube, will pull material off that violates any copyrights.

I am using it, I am happy with it, and I have see no material on there that is questionable as of yet....if you have, please point it out to me, but I have been on there every day for the past week and the only thing I see that I object to is those damn dudes jacking off, who the fuck wants to see that?
so give us some tips on how do you use pornotube :)

GatorB 06-30-2006 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bknoob
if the video files on pornotube are just promo materials, I don't see how it's different from a standard MGP site.
Do the vids link to a paysite? Is there ANY links to paysite from there? No. So as a affiliate how can you make money using promo materials? The videos have the name of the paysite and that is where the surfer is gong to type in. Now maybe in the description you could spam the name of your site, but then you'd be breaking your sponors TOS since you can only using their content to promote THEIR site not you own. So tell me how as an affiliate you can make money?

GatorB 06-30-2006 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whorehole
That yahoo! video thing is interesting- I just tried to "upload a video" and it just keeps going back to the same page.

Did they shut down uploads or something?
The smarter site owners use htaccess.

darksoul 07-01-2006 01:43 AM
I'm curious how many clones we'll see in the next months.

MikeHawk 07-01-2006 01:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject
so give us some tips on how do you use pornotube :)
Amazing that the "adult biz" is supposed to be on the "cutting edge" of what is goin on the internet, i have never seen this many people so far behind of what is already happening.....doah...

Clones....they are already out there, keep your eye on what is going on :2 cents:


Why would anyone give "tips" on how this work, do your home work, and figure it out.......or not.:1orglaugh

darksoul 07-01-2006 01:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeHawk
Amazing that the "adult biz" is supposed to be on the "cutting edge" of what is goin on the internet, i have never seen this many people so far behind of what is already happening.....doah...

Clones....they are already out there, keep your eye on what is going on :2 cents:


Why would anyone give "tips" on how this work, do your home work, and figure it out.......or not.:1orglaugh
you shouldn't be at all surprised when there still are people submitting galleries.

Rolo 07-01-2006 01:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeHawk
Amazing that the "adult biz" is supposed to be on the "cutting edge" of what is goin on the internet, i have never seen this many people so far behind of what is already happening.
Mike, is this a new cutting edge way to sell subscriptions? (click link to see example)

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/628001-perfectgonzo-asstraffic-com-aebn.html

Not trying to be a smartass - just value your input :)

PG-Info 07-01-2006 02:05 AM
Stop better playing-girls.com to much horny girls there

MikeHawk 07-01-2006 02:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolo
Mike, is this a new cutting edge way to sell subscriptions? (click link to see example)

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/628001-perfectgonzo-asstraffic-com-aebn.html

Not trying to be a smartass - just value your input :)
Rolo....
Thanks...:)

Damian_Maxcash 07-01-2006 03:07 AM
I dont know if anyone has posted this - but have a look at the number 1 viewed vid.

We are all a bunch of sickos!! :)

John69 07-01-2006 04:12 AM
i have a account on there and have been watching the site, it seems like it is more geared towards amature homegrown vids, those get the most hits/views, pornotube needs to CUT THERE FILE SIZE down to 10MB then it will work out for everyone.

my 2 cents

Why 07-01-2006 04:16 AM
there will always be something to overcome. some will sit in front of it and die bitching about it. others will figure out a way to overcome it.

those of you bitching are stupid. spend as much time trying to adapt and learn. youll be much better off.

porno tube, aint goin away. deal with it.

Rolo 07-01-2006 04:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Why
porno tube, aint goin away. deal with it.
Agreed, and here is how Perfect Gonzo is responding to AEBN´s copyright infringement - using Perfect Gonzo content to attract surfers and keep them:

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/628001-perfectgonzo-asstraffic-com-aebn.html

Deal with it :thumbsup

Damian_Maxcash 07-01-2006 04:34 AM
As the population gets more used to the internet it was always going to happen.

Why do you think 97,98 and 99 where the golden years? as time marches on porn will become less and less important. The fact that porn is so easily translated for the internet is what made us and what will kill us.

The money will be (is) in converting the millions of hits we can generate into mainstream traffic. If you can convert 10% of your traffic into mainstraem hits then you are back in the bigtime.

Rolo 07-01-2006 04:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John69
pornotube needs to CUT THERE FILE SIZE down to 10MB then it will work out for everyone.
AEBN have already been told this before

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolo
Maximum File Sizes

* Video: 100 MB
* Audio: 10 MB
* Image: 600 KB

They would have to be 10 times less for controlling pirated content, and AEBN knows that.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=154

However they are doing nothing... only if webmasters demanding it will they do the right thing. Hopefully threads like this will make them see the light.

webjoker 07-01-2006 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoogleBoogle
Pornotube.com can put all porn webmasters out of business.

I just checked on Alexa and they've recieved over 3,000 visits per million today and are 150th for today! But then I realised it hasn't actually got that many videos on there! so lets add tons of non- porno related videos on there, maybe some that will make them sick (videos and photos of poo) and some random videos that have nothing to do with porn! This way visitors won't be getting what they want and then they'll continue paying for adult videos.

Its worth a try to save the business. Porn shouldn't be all free

I'm sure you all have millions of random videos.

ok, i'll trush up porntube, you bring down images.google.com, video.google.com, video.yahoo.com, images.yahoo.com, youtube.com, all the groups at Yahoo and MSN, all the tgp's and mpg's on the net, free sites and all those fake tgp blogs.

deal?

pathmaster 07-01-2006 06:16 AM
Traffic Rank for pornotube.com: 118,873

Jace 07-03-2006 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony
Take a moment here to collect yourself, blowing off your top only brings you to Joesho levels.

I know you are in his VOD, but you forgot to answer if you run forumns for them, which is yes.

I made the comment that you do a lot of business with them, running forumns, and VOD, and that it may raise eyebrows about your defending them.

Now, how does your experience count for a regular joe webmaster who doesn't produce their own content? Sponsor content cannot be used as you MUST have 2257 in writing to use it.
I have never run any forums for them....i really don't have any clue what youy are talking about...stop being cryptic and just come out and say it

btw, I have been out of town since my last message, I just got back in

Jace 07-03-2006 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony
Take a moment here to collect yourself, blowing off your top only brings you to Joesho levels.

I know you are in his VOD, but you forgot to answer if you run forumns for them, which is yes.

I made the comment that you do a lot of business with them, running forumns, and VOD, and that it may raise eyebrows about your defending them.

Now, how does your experience count for a regular joe webmaster who doesn't produce their own content? Sponsor content cannot be used as you MUST have 2257 in writing to use it.
and btw, let me add....the extent of my business dealings with AEBN has been to collect a check every now and then for about $40...maybe once every other month...for the VOD in my members area

Jace 07-03-2006 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorB
Well duh you can use your own shit. I didn't ask about that.
I have no used my own shit yet....just using sponsor content which I have permission to use from both pornotube and the sponsor

fris 07-03-2006 05:51 PM
they arent the first to break copyright law from gfy

Jace 07-03-2006 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony
Jace,

I had higher hopes for you. You went on the defensive quickly once I mentioned that maybe some people might take your accolades of pornotube.com with a grain of a salt.

You cannot dispute that you do work with AEBN, and I'm not shit stirring, I was pointing out the obvious.
if by working with AEBN you mean selling about $40 worth of VOD through their affiliate program every 1-2 months, then yeah, I guess I do....then so do about 3000 other people too

Jace 07-03-2006 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony404
Why would Jace lie about running all those forums for them , it would mean he was getting paid.
I don't even know what "all those forums" is

seriously, I have never collected any check from AEBN except a affiliate check

Jace 07-03-2006 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
every webmaster can produce their own content...
if Jace can do it,
anybody can do it!!!!
Here is his latest:

http://pornotube.com/media.php?m=2046
oh snap serge, you got me....damn, I thought I was being all secretive

tool

MaddCaz 07-03-2006 05:54 PM
cant stop a machine...

Jace 07-03-2006 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Funny... Everyone attacking Jace...

All Jace is doing is using PornoTube as a free hosting service that will play the video from inside his blog.

Did anyone who attacked him even look at his blogs? Had you done a little research it'd be obvious that he is completely within the rights afforded to him by the sponsors to host a video in this way.

This is the way PornoTube can make you a gang of cash. It is when people surf pornotube itself that you lose money because some surfer can upload a video instead of a video CLIP which is what Jace is doing. Uploading video CLIPS... He actually serves less porn per post than everyone who posts galleries to an MGP. They post 4 to 6 clips... Jace has one.

So tell me again how Jace is the enemy?

You are all sheep by the way... behhh behhh... Run and do your stampede you retarded fucks...
if anyone bothered to do some research they would have seen how I do it....but they don't...they just instantly go on the attack

btw, I have written permission from every sponsor I am using too....but jeez, that 20 second clip I am using must be killing the porn industry! haha

Jace 07-03-2006 06:04 PM
and anthony, let me just close out what I am going to say in this thread by stating you are one of the quickest people in this biz to stab me in the back...it took you all of what, less than a month?

I apologized for all that shit in Florida, we "buddied" up, you chatted me up on icq telling me you wanted to help me....then the first chance you get on GFY you try and spread lies and gossip about me, the whole time just having the pure intent of trying to discredit me. You are pure total scum asshole. I was warned by 3 different people when I told them I wanted to bury the hatchet, and you proved every single one of them right and me wrong.

one more time for the retarded idiots....the ONLY thing I have EVER done with AEBN is put up links to movies that are ours in their system and sell VOD for them...I was an AFFILIATE...that is it. I don't know what forums you refer to, or what other shit you all mean....if you would like you can email ANYONE from AEBN or any affiliated site and verify that...

gandalfuy 07-03-2006 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeCreep
Relax. Concentrate on bringing yourself up, rather than spending your time trying to bring other people down.
:thumbsup

Anthony 07-03-2006 11:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jace
and anthony, let me just close out what I am going to say in this thread by stating you are one of the quickest people in this biz to stab me in the back...it took you all of what, less than a month?
I stabbed you in the back? By giving you advice that what you say can be miscontrued by others because you do business with AEBN? Okay, whatever.

Quote:

I apologized for all that shit in Florida, we "buddied" up, you chatted me up on icq telling me you wanted to help me....then the first chance you get on GFY you try and spread lies and gossip about me, the whole time just having the pure intent of trying to discredit me. You are pure total scum asshole. I was warned by 3 different people when I told them I wanted to bury the hatchet, and you proved every single one of them right and me wrong.
I spread lies? You have yet to answer the questions. Do you run forumns for AEBN? YEs or no?

Funny enough, I was told by people that I was wasting time with you trying to help you out. Gonzo and Joesho begged to learn how to Mail Legally to make money out of it. I never offered either them to teach them. But yeah, I was fucking you around.

Quote:
one more time for the retarded idiots....the ONLY thing I have EVER done with AEBN is put up links to movies that are ours in their system and sell VOD for them...I was an AFFILIATE...that is it. I don't know what forums you refer to, or what other shit you all mean....if you would like you can email ANYONE from AEBN or any affiliated site and verify that...
You don't moderate x p e e p s for them? It was stated you did on Oprano and in IM.

As for backstabbing... I keep ICQ history.

Anthony 07-03-2006 11:07 PM
Jace,

Please answer in a civil manner. If my information was wrong and you deny those exact questions, than I am man enough to say I was wrong and apologize.

69pornlinks 07-03-2006 11:10 PM
i think it boils down to you didn't think of it first..


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