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Cory W 07-06-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
If only the Arab people from a flight where all passengers were NOT Arab were searched, I'd say it's racial profiling and racist by the common use of the word. Thats assuming no specific threat related to the flight.

So all the people, or the nervous looking people, or a certain age group, or something that makes real sense. But not "search all the Arabs on that flight".

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Originally Posted by Mike33
It's a sticky question because one has to weigh rational profiling against racial profiling - sometimes they're one and the same, and sometimes not. Of all the high jackings in recent years how many were done by Arabs? But even better, how many of those highjackers led completely normal lives and would go undetected if security was simply searching people who "looked shady"? Maybe another question would be, if you were a passenger on that flight, would you be for or against the search since it is your safety that is in question? To take heat off Arabs for a moment let's ask what if a cross was found burning in front of a black person's house - what would the profile of the possible suspect look like? Remember that in these specific situations people don't necessarily have the opportunity to get to know who they're dealing with on an individual basis so perhaps some type of profiling is acceptable (nobody is having their rights taken away, just a quick search inconvenience and everybody is on their way). I would be curious to ask somebody of Arab decent if they would be for or against not only a brief search of themselves but other Arab passengers. I'm sure that everybody incuding Arab passengers don't want that flight to be their last.


As for the compisition of "races" - that won't change for a long time to come. The distribution might change but we're not all going to be brown people in 50years. In America alone there are 300 million "white people" (50 million which have "black" genes in them) and interracial marriages are relatively few. This is partly due to race/culture issues but also socio-economics, status, and proximity (you won't find many blacks in small all-white towns across the country and you won't find many whites in all black urban areas where the majority of blacks in the US are concentrated, so the chance of intermarriage is nil).

This is a very sticky issue.

First, there is a distinct difference between "racial profiling" and "intelligent security."

I don't think that searching a plane full of Iranians is "racial profiling," however, I also don't think it is "intelligent security." That really is a bad example because the plane is full of non-jews / -americans. But you get the idea.

When the Rodney King verdict was announced, was it "racial profiling" to beef up security in Watts?

If a cop stopped me and wanted to search my car because a series of robberies in Irvine occurred by a bald white guy, I would have no issue with it.

shermo 07-06-2006 01:00 PM

Prejudice is having a predetermined notion of what a race/color stereotypically does.
i.e. The Irish are all alcoholics...etc

Racism is hating because of a person's color/ethnicity.

shermo 07-06-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions
Racism = thinking that people who come from a certain place or share certain physical commonalities BEHAVE similarly.

That is prejudice... Racism includes hatred. There is a difference. Almost everybody is prejudiced with predetermined views... Not a whole lot of people are racist.

For instance....

When I say trailer park, what comes to mind?

gregtx 07-06-2006 01:10 PM

I grew up in West Texas... there was no such thing as an Asian or Oriental.. just sleepy Mexicans...

Cory there is some new book out called "White Guilt"..

Cory W 07-06-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gregtx
I grew up in West Texas... there was no such thing as an Asian or Oriental.. just sleepy Mexicans...

Cory there is some new book out called "White Guilt"..

You should open a rickshaw business in Dallas.

:1orglaugh

CDSmith 07-06-2006 01:16 PM

Well I know what racism ISN'T. People confuse race with nationality all the time. There is no mexican "race", just as there is no French "race", or Canadian "race". Mexicans are part of the latino race but come from the country of Mexio. Canadians are, well, a mixed bag of races, mostly caucasian but lots of negro, asian, native indian, east-indian.

Often times when people are crying racism they have it confused with descrimination based on nationality, not racism. Calling a Candian a "canuck" used to be considered a slur against us as Canadians, but it's not "racist" as there is no Canadian race. Same goes for calling someone a jap or a wop etc. It's a slur against their nationality.

Btw, I have no idea how the term "wop" was first associated with Italians. Jap I can see, it's short for Japanese, but wop?

Anway, much of the time it's just used as an identifiter, as you don't know the guy's name, you see that he's black so you say "that black guy over there" or "the mexican did it" and point. (not really effective if you're in a roomful of mexicans)

OG LennyT 07-06-2006 01:37 PM

I dont know what it means, but the Green Lantern guy on GFY is a fucking racist

Peaches 07-06-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Btw, I have no idea how the term "wop" was first associated with Italians.

I had always heard it stood for "With Out Papers" when they emigrated to NYC. Could be an urban legend though.

gregtx 07-06-2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory
You should open a rickshaw business in Dallas.

:1orglaugh


RACIST!!!!:winkwink:

next you'll say I can't drive and have a small penis!!!

Mr. Romance 07-06-2006 02:36 PM

we are all beautiful in our own way regardless of appearance...


Mr. Romance

CherryLipsRosa 07-06-2006 02:45 PM

Great post. Racism for me is when you stereotype people and doom them before giving them a chance to prove themselves because of their color or origin. Being close minded and ignorant.

scottybuzz 07-06-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
Hating/disliking someone for the color of their skin is racism to me

I think people are WAY too sensitive these days with that shit though

what about hating people for their country? not just skin you know

Cory W 07-07-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz
what about hating people for their country? not just skin you know

I think it is rather safe to assume that those that posses preconcieved notions due to race, are likely guilty of the same offenses in regards to nationality.

"Racism" is now a pretty loose term considering the melting pot that is places such as the United States.


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