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Odin 07-23-2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg
i'm not too free with the label...

so far i only called "hooligan" that way, because he clearly is. if i didn't call him an anti-semite, no one would....


the 90% may be too much, but it doesn't say anything specifically...
can you PROVE that less then 90% of gfyers who oppose israel are anti-semites?

Stop trying to backpeddle with your Zionist spin, just stick to your guns. I wouldn't say I was an anti-semite, I have been impressed with a number of Jews in recent times (most of which you'd call traitors no doubt), but I am very anti-Zionist. It isn't even that I am against ethnic nationalism in moderation, just that I am against nationalism which seeks to deny others the same rights they seek to claim for themselves, or fail to offer adequate compromise to other peoples (which is what I'd refer to as extremism). Zionists are a class act when it comes to this (as can be noted by the positions they take in Western society on such issues as mass-immigration), and thus I essentially hate them (aka you). Zionism has way too much history of deception for me to ever believe they could be a true ally of Euronationalism (which I support) at this point in time, though being a fair minded person I'd like to see and accept a toned down version of what you, your Zionist kin in the West and Israel currently offers the world.

Egomancer 07-23-2006 09:35 AM

AlexG, when your nation was in Israel, my nation was roaming (and consequently owning) one third of Europe. Based on Israeli logic we should exterminate like one quarter of the Europe's nations.

Egomancer

FetishTom 07-23-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Temp1
I tend to stay out of political debates on business forums but this statement here is very accurate.

Asking them to hold a discussion without the 'anti-semite' or 'racist' card is like asking a dog not to bark. It's in their nature.

Ah equating jews with dogs - how nice

To say something is 'in their nature' is the essence of racism. Black people are cowardly 'because it is in their nature' is another oft quoted remark and usually prefaced by 'I'm not a racist its just a well known fact'

The statement (be it Jews or blacks) is accurate only because it conforms with your own prejudice. The fact that either statement is total bollocks has (unfortuantely) no bearing on the matter.

Israel does attract disproportionate criticism due to anti-semitism. That is fairly obvious. Criticism of Israel is not always due to anti-semitism. Again this is fairly obvious.

How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') is akin to Fox News giving a balanced critique on the Bush Administration.

On and not Jewish before you ask.

xxxdesign-net 07-23-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

this demonstration wasn't even reported on a single TV station... you know why? not because the TV channels are biased, but because this demonstration is way out of the concensus in Israel... and therefore it's not worth covering...


sure, sure... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.startribune.com/722/story/562903.html

"All these topics are subject to review by Israel's chief military censor, who has - in her own words - "extraordinary power.'' She can silence a broadcaster, block information and put journalists in jail.

"I can, for example, publish an order that no material can be published. I can close a newspaper or shut down a station. I can do almost anything,'' Col. Sima Vaknin said Wednesday
"



Talk about being brainwashed.... I bet you also heard the 90% number on Israeli news uh..? lol

xxxdesign-net 07-23-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal Kint
FACT: There is 90% chance of being called anti-semite if you criticize Israel in any way.

:thumbsup and it gets really annoying..

Doctor Dre 07-23-2006 10:03 AM

You're a fucking retard... I admire the jews for what they have been doing since WW2... But was there really a necessity for this war ? I don't know.

s9ann0 07-23-2006 10:07 AM

FACT: you are a knob

notabook 07-23-2006 10:19 AM

FACT: Jews have tiny penises and are still pissed about that whole holocaust thing and intend to kill one for one how many of their own kind were killed by Hitler. They chose those of the Islamic faith to take their aggression out on.

he-fox 07-23-2006 10:45 AM

I'd say that this war is the way US try to kick Siria and Iran's ass using Israel's foot. We'll see...

tranza 07-23-2006 10:54 AM

YOU are an idiot alexg.

woj 07-23-2006 10:56 AM

50.......,.

Alex 07-23-2006 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egomancer
Israel invaded Palestine one day before the palestinians would have recognzied the country. Which would have been the first step for peace. But they timed it that way so the peace does not come and they can invade the land of other nations.
What about that?

Egomancer

This is coming from scum in Romania. Tell me, how many family members did you have who entered the army in 1940 along with Hitler's Nazi Germany.

Does your anger at the Jews/Israel come from the fact that your sorry asses lost and got called on being the anti-semitic douchebags that you truely are along with losing the war and remaining a 3rd world country.

Alex 07-23-2006 11:12 AM

And for all of you bitching about the exact percent or numbers:
Its obvious that 90% is no where near the exact number, so stop debating that point and address what was actually discussed.

alexg 07-23-2006 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook
FACT: Jews have tiny penises and are still pissed about that whole holocaust thing and intend to kill one for one how many of their own kind were killed by Hitler. They chose those of the Islamic faith to take their aggression out on.

thanks for supporting my point, fucking anti-semite!

alexg 07-23-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
sure, sure... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.startribune.com/722/story/562903.html

"All these topics are subject to review by Israel's chief military censor, who has - in her own words - "extraordinary power.'' She can silence a broadcaster, block information and put journalists in jail.

"I can, for example, publish an order that no material can be published. I can close a newspaper or shut down a station. I can do almost anything,'' Col. Sima Vaknin said Wednesday
"



Talk about being brainwashed.... I bet you also heard the 90% number on Israeli news uh..? lol

link is broken....
what you say sounds like complete bullshit...

alexg 07-23-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
It's in their nature.

another anti-semite!

(assuming you were referring to the jews...)

The Demon 07-23-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg
They will always deny it, and chances are most of them will be bashing me soon enough in this thread, but this is the truth.

Here are quotes from Hooligan, who started another typical anti-ISRAELI thread:

"But throwing shit at synagogues are juvenile pranks and I doubt jews would mind."

Then Deputy Chief Command offered: "dont buy kosher food ! "

to which Hooligan replied:

"You have a point there.

I also think its a good idea to support CD and video sharing online.
The media corps are all jewish."


Then after I called Hooligan a racist in this thread, Mr. Soul replied:

"It's racist to oppose Irsrael's invasion of another country? You make me fucking sick. You should be the one who kills himself for the advancement of humanity. A comment like that proves what a sick fucker you really are."


He didn't even realize the anti-semitism in Hooligan's words....

I can pretty much assure, that in any so called "political" anti-Israeli thread, I could eventually find a jew hating quote.

Like I said, in 90% of the cases, it has nothing to do with opposing a governments' actions, or political arguments, in 90% of the cases it's just pure hate for the jews... neutral readers, pay attention to this next time you read anti-Israeli propaganda on GFY...


There is a small minority of people who oppose Israel but I believe are not anti-semite, directfiesta is probably a good example, and there are some others... but 90% of the time, well, like I said...

You seem like the smartest person on this forum.

OG LennyT 07-23-2006 11:35 AM

I would say there are definately anti-semitic assholes on GFY but people have been jealous/enraged at the Jews for centuries... this forum is no different.

With that said, just because someone opposes what Israel is doing now doesnt mean they are against Jews.

Another point is when people run their mouths without thinking, they may alienate potential business here. That is pure stupidity.

Egomancer 07-23-2006 11:43 AM

Alex,

I suppose that you are so inbreeded that you have been born without a brain. A few facts: lots of jews have been PROTECTED by Romanians during world war two, which you tend to forget. The number of jews saved by romanians outnumbers by far the jews killed by romainian.
And about Romania being a 3rd world country, check it once again - e are supposed to get into European union in like 5 months. Also in Romania the average income increased 4 times (400%) in the last 5 years.
Regarding the fact that we lost the war, I have nothing against it - we payed for that, and we payed it big time. BUt history tends to repeat itself.

Moving back to Israel - they start to piss Europe off and when they loose the EU support they will have problems. You can look at the problem in any way you want - the war in Lebanon is wrong and has nothing to do with kidnapped soldiers but with stealing land from other people to move the israeli colonists there. The day US stops being a superpower is the day when Israel is doomed.

And BTW that war costs Israel a lot of money to get some rocky land - so soon Israel will be a 3rd world country. The only thing they beat the fellow muslims is weapons - which are developed with US. The day Iran gets nukes will be a sad day for Israel because they won;t be able to blackmail the muslims with nuclear missiles ;).

Welcome to the real world, retards!

Egomancer

P.S. I am not antiesemite but I am anti-retards!

xxxdesign-net 07-23-2006 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
link is broken....
what you say sounds like complete bullshit...

lol ... reality hard to believe? Try this link... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13941180/

Alex 07-23-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egomancer
Alex,

I suppose that you are so inbreeded that you have been born without a brain. A few facts: lots of jews have been PROTECTED by Romanians during world war two, which you tend to forget. The number of jews saved by romanians outnumbers by far the jews killed by romainian.
And about Romania being a 3rd world country, check it once again - e are supposed to get into European union in like 5 months. Also in Romania the average income increased 4 times (400%) in the last 5 years.
Regarding the fact that we lost the war, I have nothing against it - we payed for that, and we payed it big time. BUt history tends to repeat itself.

Moving back to Israel - they start to piss Europe off and when they loose the EU support they will have problems. You can look at the problem in any way you want - the war in Lebanon is wrong and has nothing to do with kidnapped soldiers but with stealing land from other people to move the israeli colonists there. The day US stops being a superpower is the day when Israel is doomed.

And BTW that war costs Israel a lot of money to get some rocky land - so soon Israel will be a 3rd world country. The only thing they beat the fellow muslims is weapons - which are developed with US. The day Iran gets nukes will be a sad day for Israel because they won;t be able to blackmail the muslims with nuclear missiles ;).

Welcome to the real world, retards!

Egomancer

P.S. I am not antiesemite but I am anti-retards!

There is so much shit wrong with your post that i dont even want to address it.

Egomancer 07-23-2006 11:49 AM

;)

Yes of course...

Egomancer

MaDalton 07-23-2006 11:59 AM

i was preparing a long speech - but i think i just go with Egomancers statement.

:2 cents:

Brujah 07-23-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd316
I would say there are definately anti-semitic assholes on GFY but people have been jealous/enraged at the Jews for centuries... this forum is no different.

Let's also remember that GFY members at large do not discriminate against Jews, but they equally spew racist remarks against blacks, italians, mexicans, christians, etc.. it's equal opportunity racism in general. :winkwink:

Temp1 07-23-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom
Ah equating jews with dogs - how nice

To say something is 'in their nature' is the essence of racism. Black people are cowardly 'because it is in their nature' is another oft quoted remark and usually prefaced by 'I'm not a racist its just a well known fact'

The statement (be it Jews or blacks) is accurate only because it conforms with your own prejudice. The fact that either statement is total bollocks has (unfortuantely) no bearing on the matter.

Israel does attract disproportionate criticism due to anti-semitism. That is fairly obvious. Criticism of Israel is not always due to anti-semitism. Again this is fairly obvious.

How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') is akin to Fox News giving a balanced critique on the Bush Administration.

On and not Jewish before you ask.


I did not "equate jews with dogs", it was an analogy. Would you prefer I had said "...it would be like asking a bird not to fly"? You probably wouldnīt like it because it would be harder to whine.

Ironically, you reinforced my point by doing exactly the same; opting to argue using the racist card. The fact is you are wrong. I stand by my statement as it is objective and not based on prejudice. And not sure why you included a reference to blacks, I suppose it is another out for you to reduce a debate back to the īracistī level rather than on itīs merits.

Lastly, read your own posts:

"How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. "

I believe that is called a blanketing, ignorant statement based on prejudice. And your next point:

"But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') ..."


I never made that statement either. Once again, in my opinion there is a natural tendency for certain groups always revert to "anti-semite" and "racist" card as an obfuscation from the real issue.

In closing, having to reply to posts like yours is exactly why I stay out of political debates on business forums.

alexg 07-23-2006 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
lol ... reality hard to believe? Try this link... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13941180/

well what's your point?

of course it's not cool when reporters say the exact place when a rocket fell, if it can help hezbollah in any way...

you said the israeli media censors protests against the war, which is just pure bullshit....

Temp1 07-23-2006 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
another anti-semite!

(assuming you were referring to the jews...)

So Iīm an anti-semite because I support holding a debate based on the merits of the issue rather than playing the "anti-semite" card? :1orglaugh

That may fly with a lot of people but there will always be some that will see right through that obfuscation and call you on it. Your kicking and screaming isnīt going to help.

SmokeyTheBear 07-23-2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
this demonstration wasn't even reported on a single TV station... you know why? not because the TV channels are biased, but because this demonstration is way out of the concensus in Israel... and therefore it's not worth covering...


Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
you said the israeli media censors protests against the war, which is just pure bullshit....

so news isnt worth reporting if the majority of israeli's dont agree with it ?

Your right i can see how israeli's protesting israeli attacks prob isnt newsworthy. I can see why they wouldnt be reporting it to you or why your friends were telling you 500 people when i saw thousands of people and several news agencies put the numbers at 5000+

xxxdesign-net 07-23-2006 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
well what's your point?

of course it's not cool when reporters say the exact place when a rocket fell, if it can help hezbollah in any way...

you said the israeli media censors protests against the war, which is just pure bullshit....


"Chief Military Censor" aka "Propaganda Minister"... What type of credibility the media/journalists of a country have when they are being censored under the pretext of national security? You really think that they only get censored when they want to talk about where rockets landed? Haha.. Just look at the US, nearly anything falls under national security these days...

And I didnt SAY that israeli media censors protests against the war, but with the media controled by the Government/Military, I wouldnt be surprised...

fallenmuffin 07-23-2006 12:29 PM

FACT: No one cares

FetishTom 07-23-2006 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
I did not "equate jews with dogs", it was an analogy. Would you prefer I had said "...it would be like asking a bird not to fly"? You probably wouldnīt like it because it would be harder to whine.

It was more of a similie than an anology however the point is not that whether it is an anology or not but the reference you used. You did not state its 'like asking a bird not to fly' but referenced it to dogs - a subsconscious belief that jews are more comparable to dogs which has a more negative connotation than say birds ie 'dirty dog' 'she was a total dog' and so on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
Ironically, you reinforced my point by doing exactly the same; opting to argue using the racist card. The fact is you are wrong. I stand by my statement as it is objective and not based on prejudice.

I argued on racist grounds as your comment was racist. It was also devoid of objectivity and based on prejudice. Ironically enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
And not sure why you included a reference to blacks, I suppose it is another out for you to reduce a debate back to the īracistī level rather than on itīs merits.

Its called an example. The act of highlighting a point made earlier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
Lastly, read your own posts:

Somewhat redundant advice. As I wrote the post by definition I have read the post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
"How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. "

I believe that is called a blanketing, ignorant statement based on prejudice. And your next point:

It is a blanket statement based on observation and the reading of numerous threads on GFY over the last few days. The 'based on prejudice' is moronic. Prejudiced against whom? GFY? People on GFY? Jew haters? You are making up sentances that have no meaning. Stop using 'cut and paste' and think before writing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
"But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') ..."


I never made that statement either.

Its called sarcasm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
Once again, in my opinion there is a natural tendency for certain groups always revert to "anti-semite" and "racist" card as an obfuscation from the real issue.

By certain groups you mean 'Jews'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
In closing, having to reply to posts like yours is exactly why I stay out of political debates on business forums.

You do not have to reply to posts. It is not compulsary. However staying out of political debates is, for you, a wise move.

DamageX 07-23-2006 12:59 PM

FACT: you're one dumb fuck with your head stuck deep in the sand.

Magix 07-23-2006 01:00 PM

i just hate anti-semites and jews :)

elron 07-23-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Well think about it a bit harder.

How many ex Israeli terrorists became Prime Ministers. Ministers or leading figures in Israel?

Shamir , Ben Guryon and the others you so call ex terrorists never murdered women nor children , hail for the little difference .
Both jewish and ilsam are pushing to radical/extrimist way . difference between israelis and arabs is that 90% of israeli are secular , while in palestine/iran/egypt they are less than 20% secluar .

Frile 07-23-2006 02:20 PM

FACT: 90% of the world population is anti-semite or will be antisemite if they were in contact with jews.

Source: human history since 2000 B.C.

Malicious Biz 07-23-2006 02:27 PM

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FACT: 90% of those who oppose Israel's actions are pure anti-semites
One of the most retarded things I have read in a while.:2 cents:

carry on.

ProducerCashDave 07-23-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Egomancer
Fact: you are retarded!

Egomancer

:thumbsup

QuaWee 07-23-2006 02:58 PM

the thread poster gives me giggles

ContentSHOOTER 07-23-2006 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=Egomancer]Fact: you are retarded!

Egomancer[/QUOTE

He is from Israel comes with the territory:2 cents: :thumbsup

Webby 07-23-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elron
Shamir , Ben Guryon and the others you so call ex terrorists never murdered women nor children , hail for the little difference .

Is there a requirement to murder women and children to qualify as a terrorist??

You missed Sharon from the list.


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