this one should be pretty good :thumbsup

Sean is by far my most favorite person in the world. Great interview

6. Discuss the wacked out body modification crap you're into. pics

this might have to wait until later. the english beat are playing in town tonight and i must go

This one should be a good one

:1orglaugh

Sean is my hero and I love him !

Erin go Bragh!! :)

DH

this ones going to be gooood

another home run

I love a man whose ear lobes I can look through :) Plus he's great to sit next to when riding in Fred's car around San Diego :)

6. Discuss the wacked out body modification crap you're into. pics
11. Discuss what you did when you manfactured piercing jewelry.

I don't know how much I will really write on this,
but I will at least give the history on it. you can still google
my name ?sean christian? with body piercing and get some
stuff that i have written over the years.

back in the middle to late eighties, northern California was a
really weird place. most of us thought that punk rock was dead,
and the gothic movement was really about over at the time. it
was really cool to be as sexually freaky as you could, and Jane's
Addiction ruled supreme. hip to be junkie sheik. so San Francisco
was a really weird place to hang out. it was common for the
twenty something crowd to be polygamous and to know as much
as you could about the church of the subgenius, so you could put
it down and say that it was ridiculous.

so I would drive up to San Francisco from my home town of
Sacramento and spend time with the freaks. at this time there
was no professional piercing shop there, and a few people were
just piercing out of their homes. the biggest house of this was
Esther and Vaughn, who a few years later opened Body
Manipulations. one of their friends was a good friend of mine,
teun ebbers. I also new this guy named Jay that used to live in
Sacto and moved to SF. he came back for a big party one night
and was talking about how cool he was or whatever, and started
talking about a cockring that he got put in. that was something
that I had to see. so off we went to the bathroom and he pulled
out a frenum piercing with a 12ga fixed bead ring in it. holyshit
I thought that was the fucking coolest thing that I had ever seen
and had to get one. so off to the city I went with him, and pierced
in someone's house It was so the first piercing that I ever got, other
than one earlobe with a safepin, was a 10ga frenum.

shortly after that I wanted to find out if there was anyone in
Sacramento doing the same thing, so I didn't have to go to SF.
but the only thing in Sacto was a huge underground gay men's
leather crowd. but there was one man that had been having
piercing parties for years, and low and behold if I didn't find a
way to get invited. he asked me to show up in boots, levis, and
a wife beater. I swear to god it took me years to realize that I was
the 'eye candy' at the party, young punk rocker with a shaved
head in tight jeans at a leather party. but I guess that everyone
knew that I was naïve to it, and nobody tried to play bad touch
with the straight boy. but at those parties I started realizing some
of the basics of piercing, really dirty bad piercing, but piercing
never the less. now I know that it was more of a S&M cutter's
scene, and just some cock torcher. but there were more than
enough guys around that would let you practice genital piercings.

so after a few years of dirty freaky deaky, both Body M and
Gauntlet were open in SF, and I started hearing about a woman
branding and piercing in the area also. I would go up to Body
M a few times a month and see what they were doing and try
to learn more about it all. at that point the jewelry was just
too expensive to get pierced much. a retail captive bead ring
was close to fifty dollars. so to get a hole in you, there was
big money to be dropped for a young guy. but one of my
SF friends moved to sacramento and started piercing out of
a tattoo shop that was opening there. his name was mike hare
and the shop was called the exotic body. he made some jewelry
there, and there was another guy in sacramento that started making
jewelry named scott rogers. scott was going up to Body M and
trying to get them to buy his rings, but they were very picky
about jewelry. I think that they had to see five of six sample
runs before they would buy a ring from him, but it pushed a few
him into making really nice rings. around the same time, I decided
that I want to move to the desert and find myself. so off to texas
I went.

I was living in El Paso and hacking people out of my house,
and every once in a blue moon driving to Dallas to get pierced.
there was one piercing shop there, and it was in a book store.
it was called skin and bones, and I got my nipples pierced there
in tandem. allen falkner (masumi max?s exhusband) hooked me up,
and I took what ever I learned there and went back to el paso and
worked in a small shop. texas was short lived, and I wanted to go
back to California. so I moved home and started working with
scott rogers making jewelry and have huge piercing parties out
of my house. we would have one a month, and invite everyone
over. scott and I would pierce as many people that would come
over, and we really didn't do that good of a job.

we started really getting scotts company rolling, and started a piercing
shop called Sub Q. at the time it was the second shop in Sacto, behind
mike hare's shop. both scot and I knew that we couldn't handle the
piercing shop on our own, so we got my old friend from SF, teun ebbers
to move to Sacto. he had moved to his old home town, Kansas city and
was piercing at a tattoo shop there call Grim's. there was quite a few
shops in SF by then, and there was one in santa cruz with this guy
named Eric Dakota. we would trade him captive bead rings for needles
that he had made for him. teun was a surgery field technician in the
air force, so he knew quite a bit about making a place as clean as you
could with what you had, and taught me how to stop cross contaminating
things. for quite some time we just rocked that piercing shop and had
a great time with it. we were friends with this cat in Arizona at the
time named steve 'the devil' hayworth. we used to ask him to make
us weird shit when we were doing projects. at the same time, a new
shop opened in SF called nomad. both teun and I knew blake and
christian, so we would bounce ideas off each of them and they would
do some of the same.

we kind of worked out a few idea's that using heavy cleaning agents
might not be the best idea, so both shops started telling clients to
use dr. bronner's castile soap. teun and blake both thought that salt
water soaks would help with the drying of the skin. so that went into
the aftercare. if it was a friend of ours, we just told them to leave it

alone and it would heal fine, if it got infected, soak it then. around
this
same time, California started talking about getting some legislation
about body piercing. that freaked everyone out. Sub Q was only a
few blocks from the capitol building, so I would go over there and talk
to the staff in the senator's office that was putting the bill through.
(side note, most of the above shops were using ET jewelry including
me) Body M, Gauntlet, Nomad, and Fakir could not come to one mind
about aftercare and skin prep. everyone was nervous about the state just
outlawing piercing, so they decided to start an organization call the
APP to help out with lobbying and solve some of these disputes.
Mike hare was going to a few of the meetings and was going to
get a board position, as almost everyone that was going to be in
the APP was going to have a position since there were very few
of them that were even willing to do it.

I was offered something then, blake asked me to be involved. I told
him that it was a San Francisco scrap that I didn't have the time to
get into. "decide what you want, and I will go to the senator's office
for you" it was a fun time trying to learn the right way to do things,
and we really didn't do it right. what did I learn out of all that?
Drama is dumb. don't use that big ass needle, and for god's sake, don't
put a taper behind it. its really easy to get burned out quick. Teun quit
the shop and decided to move home to become a nurse. I hung in as long
as I could, but scott and I were of two different minds when it came
to technique. I had to do something else. I didn't want to work for him
anymore, and I didn't like rockstar piercers anymore. so I decided
to start a small company with a few friends. Revolution Body Jewelry.
make the best of the best, comprise nothing.

that was a really fun ride for a few years, but i really thought that it
would be a small company so I just became partners with everyone
that I thought was going to be employed. me and two friends. you
know the old saying, don't go into business with friends, well its
true. we just had different visions of what we wanted. so it was easier
for me to leave than to fight. at that time I had been going to
different piercing shops all over the country to learn more about what
people were doing.

i sold that business to my two partners and left for santa cruz, ca
to work at the largest manufacturing plant in the world at the
time. it was called anatometal.

over all of this time, i met several very interesting people. one man
that i was amazed by was fakir. www.bodyplay.com in his own
rite and inside of this industry, he was and is considered a shaman.
he is one of the first of what we really call ?modern primitives? he
looked beyond some of the typical aspects of body modification
and studied the history behind it. he did want to pierce his nose
because he liked the way that it looked, but he also wanted to
know the meaning of it and the history behind it. he was the first
man that got me interested in body suspension and taught me
his ideas of the spiritual aspect of it. i dont know how much
i personally believe in what he was seeking, but i did
respect the fact that he was on a path and he was interested
in finding out if there was more behind it all.

what i did take from him was a huge interest in suspension
that i still have to the day. i really dont like the public veiwed
side of it, the fanfare that is around it now, but i still have
a love for it. and i few hooks still at my house.

ok that was a long weird story. i guess that the short part
of it that i at least witnessed, if not helped out a little, in
most of the early parts of the professional piercing industry
and ended up working in the field for well over a decade.
i was part of setting standard, and writing laws. but in the
end... i made cockrings and put them in people. this was
the industry that i was in when lars andi first became
friends, and it was the industry that i left to work for him.

oddly, i think that the two industries have quite a bit in
common and what i learned from one, i was able to take
to the other. both industries are sparked by people who
have lived outside of certain lines that society as a whole
have drawn. i see the adult internet industry started and
fueled by computer geeks that would sit and tweak with
the thing that they have fun with. they figured out a way
to make a living doing it, a job out of their hobby. i bet
that there is a huge chunk of people in this industry that
do not have formal business training or education. same
thing with the piercing industry. we wanted jobs doing
what we liked to do, we wanted to make a living at it
in our own and in our own time. so we learned these business
skills just out of necessity. it gives an awesome perspective
of being creative, since we really were never told about
guidelines that we should stay inside of.

http://images18.fotki.com/v328/photo...3/hooks-vi.jpg
i dated this girl for some time and put hooks in her

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north shore

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notice the seven seconds shirt on my friend

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wearing gloves while putting huge hooks in a man, in the dirt

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different girl's turn

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dont worry, she was ok

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last, but not least. having a party with a few friends. why not let them put some hooks in my back and pull me up on chains

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allen falkner

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his mife masumi

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angel www.buckangel.com his wife

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some of the kids from infinte in philly

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she is an old friend

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fakir and i

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they have only give out a few

Damn Sean! This is my new favorite Ambush, brotha!

Let's catch up on today's conversation in Florida ... but please send me an LOI before then!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I am all eyes on this one

Sean is a great guy. Always a pleasure to be around.

All of the Island of Ireland used to belong to the British. I say you should give it them back.

wow - very interesting! :thumbsup

wow you knew Fakir. Now thats amazing.

http://images15.fotki.com/v338/photo...MG_3122-vi.jpg

I had no idea! Congratulations!

That's awesome on the APP award. Interesting read. I'm looking forward to more. :thumbsup

keep going sean. you've only just begun

7. What's it like to live in a house with 5 guys?

if you really want to see what i do and how i live, you can
check out my http://www.ilikesean.com there are pics of my house,
my friends, places i go, things i do and a lot of you.

there was a short time that i lived by myself. i think it was about
six months, from moving out of my parents house, until i ended
up with housemates. since then, i have always lived in a cooperative
situation. a few times a week we cook together, we clean the house
once a week together, we shop for food together (for the few times
that i eat at home)

most of the time they have been dry, semi-straight edge houses.
i use tobacco, one of the boys eats meat, things like that. most
of the time, we move together as a group. its not always just guys,
there is a punk rock girl or two that has been in the mix over
the years, but for the most its a house full of guys. as i type this
on a laptop, there is a band in my living room and i think that
we are all going to eat tofu scrabble burritos. after that, one of
the boys is going to help someone with his car and i have to
go with the other boy to his business that he owns and help him
with some contracts. ( i know about LOI now)

i really like living in a cooperative. its a ideal of community in
certain aspects. sometimes its a little much when you want a
quite place to watch a movie alone, like when i came home to
find the entire band ?the exploited? in my living room, i think
that last week it was ?go to hell?, and it makes me think that i
really dont need to do this and i can afford to not live here. but
then there are other moments that i like the fact that we can
provide, as group, for each member and for others. we also have
an open home to our community of friends. this is the house
that everyone gets together to watch movies. we have dinner
parties over here a few times a year. when there is a holiday,
and there are people in town that do not have family here, they
come to my place and we all cook together and have a meal.

so for about nineteen years now, i have lived in a household
full of people, four different towns, two different states. at one
point i even moved an entire household of boys from california
to texas. one day i might grow up and get my own room.

http://images15.fotki.com/v338/photo...56333_l-vi.jpg
he is not really that hard

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tv party tonight, tv party tonight.. we got nothing better to do

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he spends a lot of time on his hair

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i like orange

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and buliding lofts. its kind of like having a fort to sleep in

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sometimes the houses are a little 70's

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that loft really didnt work out well

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holiday potluck. i made everyone wear ice hockey jerseys

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we end up with a lot of food sometimes

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its hard to make your dining room look like your grandmas

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thanksgiving morning

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desert potluck

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she got married and decided to move.

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party in the yard

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we used to live above the tattoo shop of course

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and there are always lots of stickers on stuff

if you ever need a couch to crash on in santa cruz, you can always have ours

OMG, I get the heebie jeebies when I cut myself shaving my legs!!

sagi has corrected me. he doesnt know what a LOI is either. kathleen sends me text messages that have LOI's in them now. luckly, i think that there are a good amout of people at AFF that do know what those types of things are.
all and all, it has been nothing less that a major learning curve for me.

Great one....
Now these 2 fuckers make laugh my ass off every time i see them...and even when i dont to think of them...lol Great people....The Pimp is "the man"
http://www.mikehawkmovies.com/pics/sean/1.jpg

http://www.mikehawkmovies.com/pics/sean/2.jpg

http://www.mikehawkmovies.com/pics/sean/3.jpg

http://www.mikehawkmovies.com/pics/sean/4.jpg
Character...:thumbsup
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8. You worked in rock and roll for years. Is that a fancy way of saying you were a groupie?

birthday party tonight, not mine. i will get to this one before bed for sure

Where do i start....
Sean is by far one of my favorite people i see at shows. There is never a dull moment, always making us laugh.
There is so much i didn't know about Sean's past but having read the replies so far, i have just gained so much more respect for him. A great guy to know and be around... I can't wait to hang with ya in our Cabana next week.

Lars, Sean, Fred, Sagi, Elli .... much love to all of you!

xoxox

bump just because

Ska!!! Dave Wakeling and the English Beat current line-up will be in San Jose on August 10th, doing a FREE Concert in the Park...

Can't wait to hear "Save It For Later" and "Mirror in the Bathroom" live one more time...

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we are going to have a lot of fun this year in florida