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woj 08-13-2006 12:39 PM

50 banned sponsors...

sextoyking 08-13-2006 12:42 PM

Hi Elron,

our products convert with almost any type of traffic, give us a try when you get a chance.

http://www.wishing.com/money

Thanks - Shalom

Todd

Trixxxia 08-13-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
weak from both but I am sure topbucks allows people from isreal
hit them up to confirm

Thanks Trax :)

elron, we also have a banned country list however if you would like to work with us, please contact me prior to signing up - I'll see what I can do for you.

Once your account is approved, the rules are the same for everyone and you are eligible for both the Revshare & the PPS programs - there's no distinction there.

My contact info is below - thanks :)

fedfest 08-13-2006 03:17 PM

Feel welcome to send some of that traffic our way elron !

RewardThem don't ban any countries :)

KeY 08-13-2006 03:20 PM

I think elron has 800k on his TGP network or smth like this, but he is unable to send 800k to one site\day

elron 08-13-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
Thanks Trax :)

elron, we also have a banned country list however if you would like to work with us, please contact me prior to signing up - I'll see what I can do for you.

Once your account is approved, the rules are the same for everyone and you are eligible for both the Revshare & the PPS programs - there's no distinction there.

My contact info is below - thanks :)

Why do you have israel in the select drop down menu at
https://webmaster.topbucks.com/signu...egory=straight

when israel is on your banned list ?
i dont see any note there asking to contact you prior to sign up in case my country is banned , You are scamming webmasters .

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
Why do you have israel in the select drop down menu at
https://webmaster.topbucks.com/signu...egory=straight

when israel is on your banned list ?
i dont see any note there asking to contact you prior to sign up in case my country is banned , You are scamming webmasters .

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
jews are dirty hypocrite rats who should be all wiped already ...

:Oh crap :disgust
































:1orglaugh ( just a joke btw .. dont ban me .. ) i think most sponsors that have israel on their list of banned webmasters have so due to a numbers game fraud/nofraud.. but as pointed out im sure ANY sponsor would work with you on that... i doubt its anything personal or they would prob tell you..

You could always use juicy's name then have him send you the money..:1orglaugh

maxidrom11 08-13-2006 03:33 PM

TopBucksTrixxxia, stop fucking up webmasters from my country

elron 08-13-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i think most sponsors that have israel on their list of banned webmasters have so due to a numbers game fraud/nofraud.. but as pointed out im sure ANY sponsor would work with you on that... i doubt its anything personal or they would prob tell you..

You could always use juicy's name then have him send you the money..:1orglaugh

i never complained about them banning israel , go read my post to the end and come back .

Rui 08-13-2006 03:53 PM

We have no problem accepting your traffic ;)

Phil 08-13-2006 04:00 PM

we'll take it too.. at least some of it.

Trixxxia 08-13-2006 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
Why do you have israel in the select drop down menu at
https://webmaster.topbucks.com/signu...egory=straight

when israel is on your banned list ?
i dont see any note there asking to contact you prior to sign up in case my country is banned , You are scamming webmasters .

If you look at the prohibited countries list (right next to the dropdown list) it will show that Israel is on the banned country list. Israel will still appear on the dropdown so people can choose the correct country they are from.

The banned countries list is a standard list provided by the billing companies and it reflects where the highest concentration of 'fraudulent' transactions on webmaster accounts have been reported. By default, a banned country application is declined. If you contact me, I will do the research and verifications required try to help you get approved.


Quote:

Originally Posted by maxidrom11
TopBucksTrixxxia, stop fucking up webmasters from my country

I don't know where you've gotten your information from (and perhaps you should inform yourself with TopBucks affiliates from Israel before making future statements :2 cents: ) but I've been with Topbucks for over two years and have never seen anyone lose their payout because they are from a banned country. If they got approved, it's because they got in touch with us and provided the info required for us to make the proper verifications.

wedouglas 08-13-2006 04:47 PM

Elron, how much have you made with those sponsors? You get them to give me the cash, and I'll send ya it via some payment method.

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2006 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
i never complained about them banning israel , go read my post to the end and come back .

i did and thats why i pointed out that many of those sponsors still accept traffic from israeli webmasters thus they need to keep israel on the list or their database would be funky ( or have a sep signup form for countries on the ban list that they still accept traffic from ) if you cant understand where im coming from then the point is lost , i was just explaining why.. .. if they didnt when they sent out checks to people in countries that are on the banned list the postmaster wouldnt know where to sends the check ( because no country was listed or it would say BANNED" lol..

anyways by now you know the reason , and if you didnt you know now

elron 08-13-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
If you look at the prohibited countries list (right next to the dropdown list) it will show that Israel is on the banned country list. Israel will still appear on the dropdown so people can choose the correct country they are from.

No , so people from these banned countries will beleive that you accept them and then you send them to your TOS when you owe them money , or else you have no reason to have them choosing the correct country they are from .
Fleshlight crew came here , admited they were wrong , appologized and fixed their terms . While you keep denying everything and comming up with some lame excuses , way to go ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
I will do the research and verifications required try to help you get approved.

I dont recall i ever asked any of you to aprrove me .

J.P. 08-13-2006 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
The banned countries list is a standard list provided by the billing companies and it reflects where the highest concentration of 'fraudulent' transactions on webmaster accounts have been reported. By default, a banned country application is declined. If you contact me, I will do the research and verifications required try to help you get approved.

How often do you update the list in your terms? I see that you do not accept webmasters from Croatia, Slovenia and Yugoslavia (this last one does not exist for quite some time now). You do accept (at least you have them listed in the dropdown box) webmasters from Macedonia and Bosnia And Herzegovina which are both former yugoslav republics. You do not mention neither in your terms neither in your dropdown box Serbia And Montenegro which is still one country but soon going to be two separate countries.

Trixxxia 08-13-2006 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
No , so people from these banned countries will beleive that you accept them and then you send them to your TOS when you owe them money , or else you have no reason to have them choosing the correct country they are from .
Fleshlight crew came here , admited they were wrong , appologized and fixed their terms . While you keep denying everything and comming up with some lame excuses , way to go ...

I dont recall i ever asked any of you to aprrove me .

Lame excuses for what exactly? When you join a program do you blindly do so without reading terms?

I don't think you understood - the only way for a banned country affiliate to get approved is if they've done what I mentioned in my prior post. There's NO WAY for them to signup, get approved or earn money otherwise - so let me state the obvious - if you're not approved, there's no way for you to earn money.

If you never contacted anyone for approval that means you did so over 2 years ago - I've always seen Israel on the prohibited countries list. I do, however have affiliates from Israel and all get paid like clockwork - just like every other affiliate.

Once approved as an affiliate, follow our terms and don't get flagged from processors with fraudulent transactions and you're good to go - regardless what country you are from.

Trixxxia 08-13-2006 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.P.
How often do you update the list in your terms? I see that you do not accept webmasters from Croatia, Slovenia and Yugoslavia (this last one does not exist for quite some time now). You do accept (at least you have them listed in the dropdown box) webmasters from Macedonia and Bosnia And Herzegovina which are both former yugoslav republics. You do not mention neither in your terms neither in your dropdown box Serbia And Montenegro which is still one country but soon going to be two separate countries.

J.P. - I don't know when the last update was but most likely it's the last time the processors informed us of an addition or deletion of a country on their list. I'll have someone check that tomorrow and confirm the list with the processors.

J.P. 08-14-2006 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
J.P. - I don't know when the last update was but most likely it's the last time the processors informed us of an addition or deletion of a country on their list. I'll have someone check that tomorrow and confirm the list with the processors.

You do that, it's crazy time here in the Balkans :) New countries popping out almost daily :) No, seriously, the last split will happen between Serbia and Montenegro, and then it's over... I hope, at least until Kosovo decides to split from Serbia :)

Also you have some countries listed which are part of European Union now and if European Union thinks these countries are OK to be the part of them, maybe processors should reevaluate their banned countries lists. But then again, if the fraudelent activity is still very high, these countries should stay there :)

kaktuz 08-14-2006 03:33 AM

hey elron, do u have someway to cotact you?

Trixxxia 08-14-2006 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.P.
You do that, it's crazy time here in the Balkans :) New countries popping out almost daily :) No, seriously, the last split will happen between Serbia and Montenegro, and then it's over... I hope, at least until Kosovo decides to split from Serbia :)

Also you have some countries listed which are part of European Union now and if European Union thinks these countries are OK to be the part of them, maybe processors should reevaluate their banned countries lists. But then again, if the fraudelent activity is still very high, these countries should stay there :)

Will do :) I'm not sure about them (processors) re-evaluating their prohibited countries list (because I'd figure that also comes from Visa & Mastercard) but anyone who is serious about working with us, should contact either Laurie or myself and we'll do our best to get you approved (provided you give us the info we require to do the verifications).

digifan 08-14-2006 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
I dont have anything against sponsors who have 'banned countries list due ... blah blah blah'
but i DO get pissed off when they DO LIST your country in the select area at the sign up form , encouraging you to sign up , send traffic and then send you to their banned list when they owe you cash .

so far sponsors who use such tricks :

Fleshlightcash

http://www.fleshlightcash.com/signup.php
israel is listed
but at http://www.fleshlightcash.com/external.php?page=terms

section 2-8 , israel is on their banned list

topbucks :

they do have 'prohibited countries' link near the country selction but still , why the heck would they list banned countries at the selected area of ths signup form , when they dont intend to pay them anyways ?
If anyone has anything else in mind except trying to scam the webmasters from these countries then he should change his biz right away .


i'll update when i find more

So true.. however topbucks will approve you, Trixxxia is a doll :)
And there are some more.
Love the program in your sig, just signed up :thumbsup

Vlad 08-14-2006 05:09 AM

that's some creative troll

YOU don't have 800k to send out daily ... jeez another israeli prick....

Trixxxia 08-14-2006 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad
that's some creative troll

YOU don't have 800k to send out daily ... jeez another israeli prick....

Whether he has 800k daily or 80 only, shouldn't make a difference - his point or concern was about the prohibited countries list. The derogatory remark wasn't needed either - but that's just my opinion.

Satan 08-14-2006 05:54 AM

Check out SatanCash we pay out all over the world. Some programs have banned countries in there list to protect themself. Contact a rep and ask if they will accept your traffic

Manowar 08-14-2006 05:54 AM

Elron you got ICQ?

Vlad 08-14-2006 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
Whether he has 800k daily or 80 only, shouldn't make a difference - his point or concern was about the prohibited countries list. The derogatory remark wasn't needed either - but that's just my opinion.

800k and 80k shouldn't make a difference ?

you mean it's okey to BS just like that ? right on !

just think about it for a second , if you would have 800k to send out , would you worry about some sponsors prohibited countries ?

NO.

elron 08-14-2006 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad
that's some creative troll

YOU don't have 800k to send out daily ... jeez another israeli prick....

Show us where i stated that i can send 800k , or crawl back to the shit hole you popped from .

Vlad 08-14-2006 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
Show us where i stated that i can send 800k , or crawl back to the shit hole you popped from .

you fucking stupid troll ,

what's this means "BANNED sponsors from my 800k daily traffic " ?

YOUR 800K DAILY TRAFFIC

fucking sigwhore.

StuartD 08-14-2006 06:37 AM

So those sponsors are banned from your traffic because you are banned from their program?

That makes total sense actually.

Vlad 08-14-2006 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD
So those sponsors are banned from your traffic because you are banned from their program?

That makes total sense actually.

j00 j0000 :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

elron 08-14-2006 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad
you fucking stupid troll ,

what's this means "BANNED sponsors from my 800k daily traffic " ?

YOUR 800K DAILY TRAFFIC

fucking sigwhore.

Show us where i stated that i can send 800k , or crawl back to the shit hole you popped from .

Trixxxia 08-14-2006 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad
800k and 80k shouldn't make a difference ?

you mean it's okey to BS just like that ? right on !

just think about it for a second , if you would have 800k to send out , would you worry about some sponsors prohibited countries ?

NO.

Vlad, I just don't get impressed by numbers until it's coming to their account at Topbucks. Alot of people talk the talk but can't walk the walk or their numbers are based on the traffic on their sites. This doesn't mean it's traffic he can send - he's got to spread his eggs in more than one basket - has to trade some of that traffic - has to target it to the right niche and the quality of the traffic is important.

I chose to focus on the actual complaint, numbers have nothing to do with it and he has a problem and I'm trying to help him resolve it :)

*800k and 80k shouldn't make a difference ?* It makes a difference if he knows how to convert his traffic but there are plenty of people with a lot of traffic that convert at 1:5k and that's normal for them - then there are people with 80k that convert at 1:500 and that is normal for them - comes out to the same amount of signups.

*just think about it for a second , if you would have 800k to send out , would you worry about some sponsors prohibited countries ? *
If your country is on a prohibited list with one - then it's most likely the same with all the sponsors' lists whether it is stated or not - so I could understand his concern. The other point he's making is that some sponsors will 'auto-approve' your account and then use the 'prohibited countries' card to not pay you. If I have to break my ass working to get that traffic to a sponsor and then they tell me *Sorry buddy, you're from X country and we won't pay you* after earning a few $k then I'd be pissed and concerned with everyone too. *but that's just me*

The issue he has with us is totally different from the issue with FleshCash - they have a prohibited country list for where they won't ship - which shouldn't affect where the affiliate is from (hence why they corrected their info).
The prohibited list may also be different because there is a distinction here and that is that they ship tangible goods verifiable by shipping/tracking data with the CC company/processors & the consumer most likely had to sign for the item delivered. Most adult sponsors, don't have the verifiable proof - it's memberships so there's more vulnerability to fraud hence the requirement for more caution when it comes to membership sites.

I just want him to understand that with us - if you've made it through to approval and your traffic & sales are kosher - you'll get paid.

Vlad 08-14-2006 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
Vlad, I just don't get impressed by numbers until it's coming to their account at Topbucks. Alot of people talk the talk but can't walk the walk or their numbers are based on the traffic on their sites. This doesn't mean it's traffic he can send - he's got to spread his eggs in more than one basket - has to trade some of that traffic - has to target it to the right niche and the quality of the traffic is important.

I chose to focus on the actual complaint, numbers have nothing to do with it and he has a problem and I'm trying to help him resolve it :)

*800k and 80k shouldn't make a difference ?* It makes a difference if he knows how to convert his traffic but there are plenty of people with a lot of traffic that convert at 1:5k and that's normal for them - then there are people with 80k that convert at 1:500 and that is normal for them - comes out to the same amount of signups.

*just think about it for a second , if you would have 800k to send out , would you worry about some sponsors prohibited countries ? *
If your country is on a prohibited list with one - then it's most likely the same with all the sponsors' lists whether it is stated or not - so I could understand his concern. The other point he's making is that some sponsors will 'auto-approve' your account and then use the 'prohibited countries' card to not pay you. If I have to break my ass working to get that traffic to a sponsor and then they tell me *Sorry buddy, you're from X country and we won't pay you* after earning a few $k then I'd be pissed and concerned with everyone too. *but that's just me*

The issue he has with us is totally different from the issue with FleshCash - they have a prohibited country list for where they won't ship - which shouldn't affect where the affiliate is from (hence why they corrected their info).
The prohibited list may also be different because there is a distinction here and that is that they ship tangible goods verifiable by shipping/tracking data with the CC company/processors & the consumer most likely had to sign for the item delivered. Most adult sponsors, don't have the verifiable proof - it's memberships so there's more vulnerability to fraud hence the requirement for more caution when it comes to membership sites.

I just want him to understand that with us - if you've made it through to approval and your traffic & sales are kosher - you'll get paid.

I got your point Trixxxia

If i would have 800k daily , i'd call topbucks ceo and close a deal with him , dont really care about prohibited countries , nor do the ceo of topbucks , biz is a biz.

to elron :
reply with same quote one more time , tipesh.

elron 08-14-2006 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
Vlad, I just don't get impressed by numbers until it's coming to their account at Topbucks. Alot of people talk the talk but can't walk the walk or their numbers are based on the traffic on their sites. This doesn't mean it's traffic he can send - he's got to spread his eggs in more than one basket - has to trade some of that traffic - has to target it to the right niche and the quality of the traffic is important.

I chose to focus on the actual complaint, numbers have nothing to do with it and he has a problem and I'm trying to help him resolve it :)

*800k and 80k shouldn't make a difference ?* It makes a difference if he knows how to convert his traffic but there are plenty of people with a lot of traffic that convert at 1:5k and that's normal for them - then there are people with 80k that convert at 1:500 and that is normal for them - comes out to the same amount of signups.

*just think about it for a second , if you would have 800k to send out , would you worry about some sponsors prohibited countries ? *
If your country is on a prohibited list with one - then it's most likely the same with all the sponsors' lists whether it is stated or not - so I could understand his concern. The other point he's making is that some sponsors will 'auto-approve' your account and then use the 'prohibited countries' card to not pay you. If I have to break my ass working to get that traffic to a sponsor and then they tell me *Sorry buddy, you're from X country and we won't pay you* after earning a few $k then I'd be pissed and concerned with everyone too. *but that's just me*

The issue he has with us is totally different from the issue with FleshCash - they have a prohibited country list for where they won't ship - which shouldn't affect where the affiliate is from (hence why they corrected their info).
The prohibited list may also be different because there is a distinction here and that is that they ship tangible goods verifiable by shipping/tracking data with the CC company/processors & the consumer most likely had to sign for the item delivered. Most adult sponsors, don't have the verifiable proof - it's memberships so there's more vulnerability to fraud hence the requirement for more caution when it comes to membership sites.

I just want him to understand that with us - if you've made it through to approval and your traffic & sales are kosher - you'll get paid.


His only purpose was to criticize me , i dont understand why do you waste time to reply to such ingnorant .

ServerGenius 08-14-2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
Show us where i stated that i can send 800k , or crawl back to the shit hole you popped from .

You shouldn't be banned coz you're from israel but you should be banned for
being another stupid and clueless idiot.

:2 cents:

Vlad 08-14-2006 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius
You shouldn't be banned coz you're from israel but you should be banned for
being another stupid and clueless idiot.

:2 cents:

I'd second that

:)

Trixxxia 08-14-2006 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad
I got your point Trixxxia

If i would have 800k daily , i'd call topbucks ceo and close a deal with him , dont really care about prohibited countries , nor do the ceo of topbucks , biz is a biz.

You don't need to contact the CEO to close a deal. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
His only purpose was to criticize me , i dont understand why do you waste time to reply to such ingnorant .

Whatever his purpose there are others reading and I want to make sure people are no ill-informed. No offense to you or him or anyone reading. :)

elron 08-14-2006 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius
You shouldn't be banned coz you're from israel but you should be banned for
being another stupid and clueless idiot.

:2 cents:

explain why am i stupid and clueless . not that i give a damn if ur another lame anonymous criticizer but if you have a point - spread it , else ... just fuck off .

ServerGenius 08-14-2006 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
explain why am i stupid and clueless . not that i give a damn if ur another lame anonymous criticizer but if you have a point - spread it , else ... just fuck off .

Thanks for just proving my point :thumbsup

J.P. 08-14-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
Will do :) I'm not sure about them (processors) re-evaluating their prohibited countries list (because I'd figure that also comes from Visa & Mastercard) but anyone who is serious about working with us, should contact either Laurie or myself and we'll do our best to get you approved (provided you give us the info we require to do the verifications).

No problem, I already got approved by TopBucks although my home country is in the banned countries list.

elron 08-14-2006 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius
Thanks for just proving my point :thumbsup


Who's being clueless then ... :smilie_we

ServerGenius 08-14-2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
Who's being clueless then ... :smilie_we

and again :banana

RRRED 08-14-2006 02:36 PM

Hey... wanna trade some traffic and joins with us? I wouldn't mind putting you up on the tgps.


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