I cannot speak for Goth, as that was after my time, but before that there was Death Rock, and it's basically the same thing. Back in the Death Rock days, we stayed out of the sun, wearing long sleeves even when it was boiling out (which we still laugh about). We used Porcelana religiously to keep us not only pale, but also freckle-free. My boyfriend constantly remarks about how much he loves my freckles, but back then it was the worst thing in the world. My white makeup looked terrible with the dreaded freckles. So yeah, it's both: staying out of the sun, and makeup. But it's also Porcelana. It bleaches your skin.

Goth, emo, and whatever else, I cannot keep it all straight anymore. My kids are constantly trying to explain scene kids, hardcore dancing, etc. to me. It's like trying to keep track of the fifty different levels of metal. I think it only matters if you are younger than sixteen.

anyone who lumps themselves in with a cookie cutter "subculture" is an idiot.

liking a certain type of music doesnt mean you have to change the way you dress/act.

I don't usually check someone's ID unless I'm planning on taking naked pictures of their pale nude body. How do you know how old they are?

this is a very interesting thread.

Experience helps

there are a bunch of them that walk around at nights by my friends hookah bar in burbank... they look so retarded and one talks to a rat he has on his shoulder :1orglaugh

I bet if the rat could talk back they would no longer be companions.

or would they be lovers? :warning

I like goth girls...

Mmm, tattoos and piercings. Rockabilly, emo, goth, alternative, naughty...whatever the fuck you call 'em.

Yummy.

:1orglaugh No offense, but, no matter how many years you have on me, I'm pretty sure I have more experience gauging the age of individuals of the spookier persuasion. So, seriously, what are you basing your guess that you are looking at kids on?

Goth chicks are okay . . it is the goth guys that I find weird.

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nice edit

it's pretty easy to tell a kid apart from an adult usually :upsidedow

No offense taken, but there aren't too many adult mall rats. The individuals I had in mind when I started this thread are pretty easy to peg as being kids . . . spooky or not.

Actually, most people don't seem to be able to come remotely close when they are looking at people with unusual hair or makeup or tattoos. Back in Blue Blood's print days, I would have distro folks want confirmation my paperwork was flawless (which of course it was) because they were sure that any model with so many tattoos had to be underage. Like did they think the tattoos came off when someone turned 18? Usually one has to be of age before getting inked.