Originally Posted by studiocritic

Thanks EpicJim, that shows a lot of character to make that request. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Solid Bob

All this over a fake bid thread? Wowzers.

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

You're rapidly approaching a place that is actionable. You oughta think about that.

If you can't draw donations to this cause based on it's own merits, then maybe you oughta find another one.


You're sad.

Originally Posted by Adult Warden

Obviously you haven't been paying attention :2 cents:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Last month, with the help of WEGCash, I managed to raise $5,000 for the Ray Guhn Defense Fund.

This month, my auction for the Free Speech Coalition currently stands at $7,000 with still another 2 days left to go until it's over.

So far, EpicCash has posted false bids, started misleading threads, and have attempted to blatantly mock and sabotage this charity event's outcome.

The Free Speech Coalition is a worthy organization that many in the adult entertainment industry rely on as a first line of defense against an ultra-conservative administration.

Why on earth, EpicCash has decided that they would try to hijack this charity event as a free way to promote itself is above and beyond me.

While so many companies and individuals have stepped forward to place bids, donate what they could as perks, or even to just keep threads alive, EpicCash has stepped forward as a parasitic leech.

I hope all that have been reading this keep that in mind.

It's time that we as an industry show companies like EpicCash that such actions will no longer be tolerated as acceptable forms of self promotion.

Exactly what type of company do you want to be supporting with YOUR efforts?

Originally Posted by tony404

Doing fucked up things is good marketing ? To me a company that acts irresponsible on here might act that way when it comes time to pay me.

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

It's time that we as an industry show companies like EpicCash that such actions will no longer be tolerated as acceptable forms of self promotion.

Exactly what type of company do you want to be supporting with YOUR efforts?

Originally Posted by tony404

Doing fucked up things is good marketing ? To me a company that acts irresponsible on here might act that way when it comes time to pay me.

Originally Posted by DTK

That's the point that seems to fly right over the head of so many people :2 cents: :thumbsup

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Back in the day, trash like Trey and his company would be shunned from the business. Today, sadly, there is room for this trash to take root and grow.
I won't have it once I return to adult and may even offer a bounty for thoase who would leave these trash companies and sign up with me instead.
My conversions will be better, I won't have a shave, and I won't embarrass our industry.
who's with me?

Originally Posted by DTK

In retrospect, in all fairness...there are plenty of affiliate programs that act with complete class on the boards and still shave your ass off :disgust :disgust

Originally Posted by brand0n

did i say good marketin tone or marketing

marketing dont have to be good, so long as its done

shock marketing in our biz sells like crack on the hill.


yo.. i dunno why everyones tryin to hang me out to dry here.. i just send em traffic..

(now why would i do that..)

Originally Posted by 12clicks

there are also affilate programs that act with class and don't shave your ass off.

Sadly, with all the static that the trash create in this biz, its sometimes hard to hear the good guys.

Originally Posted by will76

Amen..... i'm with you and feel the same way and plan on steping back into the membership site/affiliate program arena in the not so far future.


epiccash is no different then 2 dozen other canned, off the shelf, affiliate companies here. The only difference with them is that they have a big loud dump ass unprofessional mentality to their business model. Unfortunetly some people think this is cool, but I doubt these are the type of people that will be in this industry for long or will actually make a lot of money.

Originally Posted by will76

Amen..... i'm with you and feel the same way and plan on steping back into the membership site/affiliate program arena in the not so far future.


epiccash is no different then 2 dozen other canned, off the shelf, affiliate companies here. The only difference with them is that they have a big loud dump ass unprofessional mentality to their business model. Unfortunetly some people think this is cool, but I doubt these are the type of people that will be in this industry for long or will actually make a lot of money.

Originally Posted by will76

and who signs up to a program because of their shock marketing...

PLEASE can those people raise their hands... Come on, find me one person who signed up to epiccash and has made more then 20 signups a week that signed up because they saw trey or jimmie attacking some one or making false drama and said to themselves, wow i need to signup to that program. :upsidedow

just 1 person is all i ask, anyone ?

Originally Posted by Samir Nagheenanajar

I love gay people !!!

Originally Posted by KrisKross

Many years ago, p1mpdogg was banned from this board for much milder behaviour (simply saying "see sig"). The actual word "Epic" was banned and so was the URL. It did nothing but help them grow. I signed up at that point as did many others.

A year or two after that, Trey was back on the board and causing a ruckus yet again. Those flying an Epic Cash banner in their sig can attest first hand to the eyeballs he brings. I've had referral incoming flowing in for years from Epic Cash.

You can say what you want about Trey, JimTheFiend or whoever else. It's irrelevant. The program itself is a solid program that has constantly grown since it's inception. I've never had a late payment, I've never seen a discrepancy between hits displayed and hits sent and their sites convert incredibly well. Knock Trey and JTF all you want, they bring it upon themselves. But don't knock the program unless you've sent traffic yourself and had a bad experience.

Originally Posted by KrisKross

I never said they were unique. I simply said they're a solid program, regardless of the facade some of their employees put on.

Trey rarely flies a banner in his sig. He rarely even has it linked to Epic Cash. For months, it was linked to Epic Feeds. And for months before that, it simply said EpicCash.com, unlinked.

Yes, I put a nice shiny banner in my sig and people clicked it, signed up and sent sales. As to why they did it, I couldn't care less. Fact is, they did and it made me money. Not Team Click Cash money, but some nice spending cash nonetheless.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1014/statsgt5.jpg

This is from a few years ago and covers a few months. Multiply $600 by 20 (5% referral commission) and we're talking over $12K in sales. So it's not just piddling nobodies with minimal traffic clicking on sigs during drama.

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

Maybe I missed something here but 10 ppl to the join page and 35 signups and 5% commission on those sign ups paid you $600+? That would mean 35 signups cost members $12000 so a membership is what $350 bucks???

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Sadly, with all the static that the trash create in this biz, its sometimes hard to hear the good guys.