Name one right you have lost.

Democrats defending your rights? :1orglaugh There are many democrats that would love to take away your rights, especially when it comes to pornography.

P.S. I am not a Republican, you Demoron.

I think you missed the point in your hysterical rush to namecall like a good liberal. My point was that you are no different than a republican when you make absolute statements that say anyone that dares to question you is siding with the enemy.

As much as 12clicks sticks to his views, I have never seen as much of a one-sided, toe the line of ANYTHING my party tells me sheep as Dig420. Jesus, if liberals told you air was conservative, you'd stop breathing and die instantly.

You are a decent businessman but you really aren't cut out for this political stuff. You are 100% convinced 1 side is 100% right on every issue and you make an ass of yourself every time you try to prove it in every thread.

how about you look up the Patriot Act bright guy?

fucking conservatards

Ive read it. Now answer the question.

Name one you have lost. Shouldnt be hard.

the right to make a phone call without the govt. listening in without a warrant. The right for american citizens to a speedy trial, to know the charges against them and to have the services of an attorney. Took me about 2 seconds to list a reason after reading your post. If I go research it I could probably give you 50. But it wouldn't matter, because you're a conservatard and you just can't wait to have a president for life GWB.

because dems and repubs are just the same right? sure, the dems would have had a gitmo.

Fucking conservatards.

Let me repeat.

What right have YOU lost.

Unless you are speaking to a terror suspect I think your phone calls are safe.

List the citizens you know of that are currently being held without a trial date.

What is considered speedy to you? Cause there are lots of criminals that are awaiting trial several years.

Not getting into this though. Just a short few questions is all. :winkwink:

How about the right not to have my local public school invaded with military recruiters looking to enlist...er...enslave some young men to die for Hitler's little toy army?

I'd much rather that BoyAlley find them and make porn stars out of them.

Thats possibly the stupidest thing ever said. By this though Ive deduced that you are probably in highschool? lol All makes sense now lol

I'm glad to see you think its funny. No, I am 24 and have been out of HS for some time. Not that I miss it any, I resisted attempts to be programmed and turned into sheep powered by mush brains.

But after being arrested for tresspassing (on the grounds of a school that my tax dollars built, imagine that, so much for public property) handing out flyers on this topic, I dont find it too funny anymore. It ought to be unconsitutional.

You hate that i am right. I did not say they are "the same" i said they are two sides of the same coin... i.e. two sets of idiots arguing one side of a two sided argument as if there is only one side.

Ron is better than you because he is honest about what he is. You, on the other hand are in denial about what you are you think their is only one blanket answer to every complex political question and issue and can't be honest enough with yourself to accept that both sides could be right, or you could be wrong on any particular issue.

proof positive that Berkley does this country a great disservice in turning out tunnel visioned poly-sci majors.

but yeah... i'm "sheep" because ... uhm... why again? i never said you are wrong about anything here. i just said you are one sided and biased and pretending you're not.





and all the bullshit you are babbling about Dig in the patriot act is a little foolish. As you seem to have forgotten, 90% of more of the Patriot Act was the brain child of the Clinton administration... OOOPS! wait a minute... isn't he your hero who can do no wrong and will be remembered as the greatest president ever? Bush passed it and is stealing your right to breath?

hahaha... the irony and sillyness of your arguments makes my head hurt.

Did you get a permit to hand out the fliers? Did you follow the laws? Nope didnt think so. So you you were an adult handing out fliers to children without permission of the school........ ya nice one. :1orglaugh

oh I see, if it doesn't happen to me PERSONALLY then it's not happening and it never COULD happen to me, simply because it hasn't happened yet. I'd repost that thing about 'I stayed quiet because I was not a jew' but there's no point. Conservatards are ignorant. Some of them are even deliberately ignorant, and really there's no helping you. Either you grow up or you don't.

Jose Padilla was held for THREE fucking years without being charged adn would still not be charged if it was up to the Bush administration. Why don't you read something instead of simple, stupid questions that you should already know the answer to if you're going to yap off in this discussion like you think you actually have something to contribute?

All you people that try to seem so sophisticated, who think they're 'all the same'.. you're just stupid. You've tried to stay so open minded that your brain has fallen out. Except you're not really open minded at all, because you have to be a goddam idiot not to object when the govt. tries to take away your civil rights.

Yep, I had a permit:

And they arent "children". If they are old enough to go to war and die, they're old enough to know that the schools are being made to sell thier directory information to recruiters so they can be nagged 24/7 about it.

Oh so you are saying he was innocent then right? Or does it make sense that once its a court case information is made public? Information that was being used to track down others involved.


You're right lets let him go. Give him a nice parting gift, and a business loan to get back on his feet. :thumbsup

I call bullshit. You had a permit, yet got arrested.... Want to try again? What reason did you get arrested for?

Wouldnt be the first time you posted bullshit on these forums. :1orglaugh

We need another Reagan as president and don't mean his liberal son just someone that thinks like him.

My permit was applied for by the revoultionary war, and granted when the consitution was enacted. Like I said, trespassing (on public property, property and buildings that I pay to maintain.)

100 clowns who still can't explain what "rights" they have "lost"... but love the rhetoric because it provokes a strong emotional response to americans... to counter the absense of fact and logic of their arguments.



really? i thought the courts, senate and congress provided oversight. in fact, the courts seem to be succcesfully challenging a few key issues that people like you love to ramble on about. you should be happy to have them because otherwise you would be relegated back to rekindling the fire of class warfare, fighting for higher taxes and claiming everything is racist and unfair.

you suck as a poly sci major. in fact, you dont really seem to understand how the government works at all.

:2 cents:

Did you eat paint chips when you were little?

who gives a fuck if he was innocent or not? it's not germane, in this country you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Until it gets repealed, we enjoy the protection of the fourth amendment whether King George likes it or not. Why do you hate the Constitution? Why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate America?

A lot of people serve because they believe in the USA and all it stands for. A lot of people do it as a way to get ahead instead of college. They would rather serve in the military than work at Wendy's. You live in a FREE country. If you do not like it here you are FREE to leave.

Sorry schools dont qualify as public property. It has specific laws in place to protect children from wackos like you. You lied as usual.

I wonder how many tax dollars get spent on all that stuff

yep, that's right, and they ARE providing oversight. Hopefully the oversight will end with Bush getting impeached.

That doesn't change the fact that you're a gullible pro-Bush sheep with no sense of history or our legal system. You're too stupid to know when the president breaks the law when it's on the front page of every newspaper in the US, and too ignorant to realize how big a deal it is and how dangerous a tyrant at the head of a republic can be.

conservatard idiot.

Yep, I am cuckoo for wanting to show the kiddies what the government has done to them. How insane.

I dont give a good goddamn how many unconsitutional laws they pass saying public schools are private property, it just aint true.

Umm innocent till proven guilty correct. Yet even people who are innocent many times must stay in jail until their trial. Its called likely risk of flight. If they think someone may harm the public, they are kept locked up. Im pretty sure someone that was involved in a plan to make a dirty nuke is just maybe a risk to the public. Ya think? :uhoh

Oh, please dont give me a woody thinking about that. Mmm, Bush impeachment.

If you handed one of your commie flyers to my kids I can assure you Id break a few laws. :)

They have this little thing called bail for that. And also, they get access to a lawyer while they are in custody. Even a moron like you could see the difference, I'd hope.

Yeah, yeah. Empty threats and Republican double speak.

This from the guy that is moving out of the country haha. Funeh

"Ya think?"

durrrrr

"Ya think?"

duhhhh

if you had any clue of how stupid the shit you're saying is, you'd be blushing with embarassment right now.

And, why are you wasting time on here arguing with me if the cause is so noble. Please, claim your glory. The military is just DYING to recruit another sucker willing to die for his president.

Were it not that I care so much for human life I would wish that you liberals win the election in 2008 and have a liberal president in power and a liberal congress to go with it. Pull out of Iraq, bring the fight here at home and witness the loss of American life on a much vaster scale than anything abroad. Your party is doomed. You first failure will happen this fall when Lieberman wins as an Independent. You have no platform. You offer no solutions. All you can do is bash the majority in power. You should move to France you would fit in with their thinking very well.

Why do you think I am moving? Take one guess. You're so smart, I'm sure you already have it figured out. Because this country sucks. It stands for nothing but corruption and the rights of the ruling class and the right of some idiot like you to froth at the mouth without even knowing what you are frothing about.

Democrats are pretty bad, I'll give you that. But they dont compare right now to the GOP. Democrats run up huge bills, waste money and time and belive in crazy things like affirmative action and other nonsense. But the GOP has this time really outdone themselves, they have killed a few thousand people, run up more debt than than the Dems could ever hope to and have sunken the economy down to depression-levels. Both parties are doomed, in fact this whole fucking country is doomed, unless we make a swift and decisive change in the way we jerk ourselves off at the voting booths.

Dig... try to grasp this. i have explained it many times.. but i can see why its to your advantage to "forget". i dont like Bush. i don't put any faith at all in people. neither did the founders of this country. i believe in the system and believe that more often than not, it will function quite well. since it hasn't needed to be changed in 300 years, i think its done the job it was designed to do.

i don't consider myself consevative. i am not defending conservative values. definately not defending bush. its just that your arguments and views are so one sided, biased and completely out of touch with reality, that they are easy to make fun of.

given your narrow views of the world and your ever present bitterness which you attribute to your ghetto upbringing, i can also understand why you are incapable of accepting and respecting the views and opinions of others.