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12clicks

09-15-2006 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

29. If you could start over today in 1996 or so - what would you do differently?

I'd have bought more of the domains that were just out there for the taking, I'd have had us put a better effort into building and running an adult program seperate from our click brokerage, I'd have hit mainstream sooner And I'd have developed a TGP to keep in my back pocket for traffic.

Oh, and I would have asked Lensman for a piece of the action when he first opened GFY. :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

If you started from nothing today how would you start knowing what you know?

It is impossible to know what I know starting today. Thats what makes me such a valuable commodity. Are there things I don't know? Sure but my knowledge base is so big, I can figure out what I don't know.
If you're asking me how I would go about starting from scratch today, I'd say learn the TGP game, learn how to siphon off traffic to send to your own freesite, and at the same time, learn SEO.
As someone new, you really need to develope low cost traffic sources. Everything else is secondary imo.
You could also see if you could land a job remotely with someone to expand your knowledge while laying the groundwork for your own business.

12clicks

09-15-2006 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetums

I would actually pay to see you do the "electric boogaloo" :winkwink:

Ha ha, as long as I get the money up front 'cause once I start, you'll ask me to stop.:winkwink:

12clicks

09-15-2006 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by swoop

so do u miss me at all?

You're not here?
http://www.12clicks.com/duncehat.jpg

12clicks

09-15-2006 06:09 AM

and yes, thats a giant hat swoop is wearing.

CheeseFrog

09-15-2006 06:31 AM

Damn, I never knew who this 12clicks guy was, but now that I've seen the pics, I remember seeing him at some of the shows. Anyway, good read so far.

swoop

09-15-2006 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

and yes, thats a giant hat swoop is wearing.

ahh, the memories

12clicks

09-15-2006 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

30. FTC making it too hard for you to make money in mainstream anymore? That why you're looking at adult again?

No, actually I'm forcasting a second crash in mainstream and I have an opportunity to jump back into adult.
We've always been a company that strikes where the iron is hot and moves on when the iron is cold.
Look at our history, we move from free sites to click brokering blindlinks to click brokering buttons and textlinks, to mainstream blindlinks, to brokering searches, to brokering popups, to inhouse sales of cellphones, to banner ad networks, and now back to adult.

And I do believe we are on an extremely short list of adult programs who, when closing their doors (blindlinks and rawlikesushi), gave a month's notice so webmasters could get their links down and paid everyone in full rather than sneak off into the night.

Brad Mitchell

09-15-2006 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Dude, you were like John Travolta's retarded younger brother.

HEY... Are you calling me a scientologist? :1orglaugh

Brad

MikeFold

09-15-2006 07:20 AM

I remember standing there watching Sharpies cigarette ash that day too in N.J...it was almost the whole length, and you just knew it had to drop off.

too funny

12clicks

09-15-2006 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

31. What shows do you attend? Why did you continue to attend certain shows even though you were out of adult?

I generally always went to vegas though I did skip last year. We were never huge travelers but I think that will change with the launch of the program. I'm going to LA in november and that might start the travel circuit for me.
In the past, I've always tried to at least go to Vegas and Miami though I've also been to montreal a couple times, vegas in november and august a couple times, Phoenix, toronto, and a few others.
I still go because I have a lot of friends in the biz that I enjoy seeing. I also never really considered myself completely out of adult.
Quite frankly, I was made for adult and look forward to coming back full force.

Oh, and something I forgot to mention when answering the "how does mojo feel about your antics" question, My style does not fit mainstream like it does adult. I was quickly banned from every mainstream chat board I posted on. In mainstream they are WAY WAY more protective of their thieves than adult ever was.

TurboAngel

09-15-2006 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Ha, another good story.
Yeah, back before we knew him, he showed up at our door out of the blue. The receptionist calls back to my office and says,"theres someone here to see 12clicks"
well, no one just shows up to see 12clicks at our office. I was a bit freaked so I told her to put him in our conferance room. I then told one of our sales guys to go to talk to him see what he wants, and get rid of him.
Only later did I realize who he was, what he did, and how much I liked him.

He's only one of 3 people who ever came to the office. ok, 4. I forgot about Nina Knows Best.

Great story! LocalG told it a little different tho.

:thumbsup

Cyndalie

09-15-2006 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

If you're asking me how I would go about starting from scratch today, I'd say learn the TGP game, learn how to siphon off traffic to send to your own freesite, and at the same time, learn SEO.
As someone new, you really need to develope low cost traffic sources. Everything else is secondary imo.

Very wise. I don't care what you're promoting. If you can't harvest and drive traffic getting started can be really expensive. Skills pay the bills, not magic.

Major (Tom)

09-15-2006 08:19 AM

This ambush is huge.
I never met 12 clicks, but i stood next to him in phoneix the year before last at the video arcade place. I was going to introduce myself but I got the vibe he didn't feel like chatting me with me much. No hard feelings though and much respect to an industry pioneer.
cheers
Duke

12clicks

09-15-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

How old are you now?

How old are you kids? Are they interested in business/entreprenuership(sp) or do you think they will pursue careers in the professions?

Sorry if thse question were already asked, I didn't notice them.

What's your educational background and how important has formal schooling been in who you are and how you run your business.

I'm 42. I don't admit to having parents or children. There's some things that are just not chat board fodder. However, any children of mine would not be allowed to work in this biz. While I think its a perfect biz for me, I would hope to produce lawyers, doctors, and indian chiefs. :winkwink:

As far as education, I graduated highschool but did not go to college. I scored a 1210 on my SATs which wasn't a bad score back then. I had an offer from a college football coach to come play for them but they were too hoity toity to give out athletic scholarships. I applied to my girlfriend's college fully expecting to get in. They never got my transcripts and therefore turned me down. I got a job planning on going to school the following sememster and it just never happened.
I did used to write term papers for one of my girl friends but that was as close as I got.
Besides my stint as a young hot bartender and my apprentice years in construction, I've never worked for anyone. I've always been an entreprenuer.

I *do* however think education is important which is one of the main reasons I wanted a library in my home. While I do have a couple of shelves of light reading, most of my library consists of history and other important writings.

12clicks

09-15-2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

after reading this interview so far as well as the banter, one word comes to mind.

Enigma.

carry on.

An Enigma, wrapped in a question.

lulu36

09-15-2006 09:27 AM

you don't really read............... in your library. be honest. http://www.ambushinterview.com/lulu/library.jpg

12clicks

09-15-2006 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

I agree that 12clicks is right on the money with this issue and I respect him for having the balls to speak about it despite all the shit he takes.

well, thank you.

12clicks

09-15-2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/12clicksbatman.jpg

that's actually scary:1orglaugh

Drake

09-15-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

And I do believe we are on an extremely short list of adult programs who, when closing their doors (blindlinks and rawlikesushi), gave a month's notice so webmasters could get their links down and paid everyone in full rather than sneak off into the night.

This says a lot. Kudos.

xxxdesign-net

09-15-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lulu36

you don't really read............... in your library. be honest. http://www.ambushinterview.com/lulu/library.jpg

I believe it's the lastest Ann Coulter's book he's having on his chest...

Btw.. this photo deserves it's own caption contest..

Here's my entry... "One down... 300 to go!" :)

12clicks

09-15-2006 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

How do you forget me three posts after photos of us hanging out in Vegas?

oh stop!:winkwink: you sat at my right hand in Delmonico's. I said I'd end up not listing everyone and catch hell for it.
Elli, Lindsey, Sheri Santiago, Hooper.
There, I named some more and still didn't cover everyone!

12clicks

09-15-2006 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RAM

Do you think my spelling is getting better ??????????

O'man did I just ask for it or what

hahahaha, its been so long I've forgotten about that. Yeah, you're spelling has really gotten a lot better. I used to need an interpreter for your posts.

12clicks

09-15-2006 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

32. How did Serge and Yishai get the beter of you in business?

Our relationship with Yishai was completely professional. We didn't actually have much interaction with him.

We had a dispute with Serge when we decided to stop sending him traffic. He never sent the last check.:winkwink: Not a very big deal really and so long ago it doesn't really matter.
Hell, Worldcom didn't send us our last check either and that one was for 1.5 million dollars.
kinda puts Serge's check in perspective.
Besides, Serge was instrumental in giving us our start. It's all water under the bridge.

sperbonzo

09-15-2006 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

if your point of view spans all of 2 years, its kinda easy to misunderstand.

EXACTLY! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Eservices2k3

09-15-2006 09:59 AM

What % do you own of the company?

Manowar

09-15-2006 10:00 AM

awesome interview

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

HEY... Are you calling me a scientologist?

is that what they call this? Scientology?
http://www.12clicks.com/bradmitchell_dance2.jpg

Jman	09-15-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hmmmm, this will take me a long time to answer.
who do I look up to?
obviously Mojo. He's like a gentleman farmer of the internet. I don't think he's ever had an enemy even when *we've* had enemies. As I've said before, he's brilliant. Other people see that and want to be around him because of it. Being his idiot sidekick has opened many door for me. :winkwink:

Another guy, is Ken Lawson. honest as the day is long. I used to say back in the day, "Ken is so honest, I'd trust him with my naked wife." and its true. hell of a guy. (of course, he never thought much of me, haha)

Ron Cadwell is another guy who has my full respect. Much like Mojo, he's brilliant. Always entertaining and interesting at our dinners, always someone I look up to. When we used to worry about processors, I ALWAYS said, as long as one of the processors is run by Ron Cadwell, this business is in good hands. Another guy I'd trust completely.

Uh, I don't think I can do a paragraph for each guy I respect in this business so let me list them.

Lars, Rich Botto, Lensman, Brad Shaw, Zimm, Kjell, John Bennett, David Vander Pole (or however that dutch bastard spells it), Steve Lightspeed, Marc De, Kevin from Top Bucks, boy there's really too many to name and I'll piss some guys off by forgetting them.:(

but I make special room for Sweet T. Tony has always always been good to us. A good friend, generous, etc. He really at times led us noobs around vegas by the hand. I',m sure it meant nothing to him but it meant everything to us. Even when we weren't doing business with him he was always great.
Thanks T.

People I look down on?
shit, again I know you hope I name names so let me think.
Well, the obvious is pimpdog. How on earth do
people do business with him. He's an immature woman hater who has no business here. Our business is dependent on woman!!!! This asshole attacks them for no reason. If you're in this business and doing business with him, you're an idiot. You can choose from so many sponsors and you choose him? its quite frankly irrisponsible.

hmmmm, who else? a good number of nameless people from the AWI board. So many thieves over there that I used to call it the "traffic cheaters board"

all the anon people on GFY of course. Very few people are truely anon, they've just burnt through thier other usernames.

then there's chat board trolls like m00d, webby, mr.soul, confucy, peaches, and several others who pretend to be in this business just so they can spew their nonsense.

Where is Confucy, lord was it fun to see some of you guys get on him/her or it ;-)

Manowar

09-15-2006 10:09 AM

i cant wait for #100

Jman	09-15-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

is that what they call this? Scientology?
http://www.12clicks.com/bradmitchell_dance2.jpg

Fuck that looks like me at Lisa's wedding. I think i have never danced like I did then.... Good times I tell ya :thumbsup

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeFold

I remember standing there watching Sharpies cigarette ash that day too in N.J...it was almost the whole length, and you just knew it had to drop off.

too funny

Hey Mike, good to see you around.

MikeFold

09-15-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Hey Mike, good to see you around.

i'm still lurking on occasion

Couldn't resist reading through this...
nice job ron

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Great story! LocalG told it a little different tho.

:thumbsup

different memories, different points of view. :winkwink:

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

hmmmm, I could have been busy trying to juggle Cory and Tassy at the same time.
Dude, I may look like a dick but I'll always make time to chat with you.:winkwink:

15600219

sweetums

09-15-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JMan

Fuck that looks like me at Lisa's wedding. I think i have never danced like I did then.... Good times I tell ya :thumbsup

Good times it was...but, I'm really not sure we can call what you were doing "dancing" LOL :winkwink: You better be nice to me or I swear I'll break out the JMan impersonating MJ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lulu36

you don't really read............... in your library. be honest. http://www.ambushinterview.com/lulu/library.jpg

I always START by reading but that *is* a comfortable couch.

Anthony

09-15-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeFold

i'm still lurking on occasion

Couldn't resist reading through this...
nice job ron

My Gawd! Mikey!!!

How's Semi Retirement treating you? :)

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

This says a lot. Kudos.

thanks Mike

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JMan

Where is Confucy, lord was it fun to see some of you guys get on him/her or it ;-)

still spewing hate over at jbm

12clicks

09-15-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JMan

Fuck that looks like me at Lisa's wedding. I think i have never danced like I did then.... Good times I tell ya :thumbsup

are you a scientologist?:1orglaugh

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