Mojo and I have often been in public restrooms together and never once have I caught him looking over. I'd say he's hetero. Oh, and we've wrestled grecko roman style a few times in the office and he's never tried to press wood against me so I'm pretty sure he's safe.

Mojo is a great great friend and business partner. Without him, I'd have never gotten involved with the internet so all of you 12clicks haters can blame him for my existance. He's extremely smart (there are very few times when he's not the smartest one in the room), sees the big picture, always sees several steps down the road, great business sense, calm demeanor, or to put it another way, the exact opposite of myself.
However, since opposites attract, we've done well together and in our almost 10 yr association, we have never had an argument. He's the one saying, "calm down, it means nothing" when I come into his office saying,"lets kill this mother fucker" He is the ying to my yang, the alligator shoes to my striped shirt, the frilly panties to my short skirt, the.........well, you get the idea.
But one thing that seems to have gripped the minds of the trolls I'd like to refute one more time. I'm not his employee:winkwink:
how could I be with a desk full of his naked pics?

I know you're getting a little older and all Ron BUT could you speed it up a LITTLE????? ; )

I'm waiting for this one :1orglaugh

What do you expect from a guy who can't spell Florida correctly?


:D

and I thought he was trying to say "intimidate" lol :1orglaugh

You mean Flordia? check your splelling ;)

finally!

Is sleazy's dislexia catching? I thank I'm infelctad.

already jumping the fuck ahead?
give the devil his due

Prediction: this thread goes 12 pages minimum.



(because that's how long it's going to take for Ron to get through all these questions) :D

Not only what will he wear but will he take me as his date ????????

"dodged another bullet, eh fag? One day you're going to get a bad case of botulism":1orglaugh

this thread just keeps getting me hotter and hotter!

and even took the time to teach me how to play Halo

http://www.12clicks.com/12clicks_lars.jpg

I'll take this question out of turn since a hater was brave enough to post in this thread.:winkwink:

Why do cheaters always refer to themselves as "affiliates"
sending fraudulent traffic or traffic that is not allowed does not make you an affiliate, it makes you a cheater.
In the days when we were kings of adult pay per click, we were light years ahead of other programs when it came to fraud. Mojo actually flew to goto.com (now overture.com for you young ones) offices and gave them a talk on how we detected fraud. It was an eye opener for them and one of the reasons we were able to do big business with them.
Anyway, you'd have these guys beating programs left and right and along we came with our good looks and higher payouts. ALL the cheaters came over for the high payouts. We identified them and pointed their traffic at an identical looking page but with only PPS sponsors so as not to hurt our buyers. We then just let them run the counter up imagining they were getting paid. We saw it as our duty to clean up the industry since we had the ability.
Well, imagine the squealing that went on when these guys were outed as thieves. Here many of them were, pillars of their little online communities, outed for what they really were.

I made many many enemies for that and some of them you still see today (all under new names and swearing they never knew me before last week but badmouthing me all the same):winkwink:

Then you have people like frank who wanted to collect the highest rates in the industry but didn't want to follow the rules. His argument today is that we changed our rules all the time to create cheaters out of honest webmasters. Its a simple matter to disprove this lie by looking up the programs in the wayback machine and seeing that in the long life of these programs the terms changed maybe, one, twice tops.
We never gave less than a month's notice and the notice was always via email AND on the stats page.

but you know, the franks of the world are always right. There's so much money to be made chasing honest webmasters out of the system.:1orglaugh

Some noob named Dave.. think he owns a small program called Python or something :winkwink:

it might have been earlier and ran through 2000.
http://www.12clicks.com/12clicks_gary.jpg

So Ron, always been curious. Are you a one man wonder or do you have a great team behind you?

boom. in

I know he's got modf on his team. Moof is quite the asset from what I know of it.

100clicks

>>>>>
I know he's got modf on his team. Moof is quite the asset from what I know of it.
>>>>

ModF is quite the man asset. (If you know what I mean...:winkwink: )

Hah, good to see my question got your attention and you answered it before all the other ones (almost).

And it's Franck, not Frank.

Is it true that ModF's goatee tickles?

This is the earliest recording of 12clicks in action. Its in our old little office and is me accepting the trophy for winning the office bubble hockey championship. not the secretary handing me a bouqet of roses as well.
http://sictalk.com/expo/trophy.MPG

its worth the click.

double post

So you like em skinny eh? Interesting.

Now I know why you guys have never offered to bring me on board. :D

Double post Double Click

queer.:winkwink:

Great thread :D
Always enjoy 12clicks posts ;) this is awesome

Going to be a great read!

lmao. nice!

Ron and I have banged dead hookers together.

oh sure. We'd get noobs who would send nasty emails because they didn't know how to put our link on their page (ctl+c, ctl+v):1orglaugh or they would find one of our affiliate managers on icq or phone and start ripping them a new asshole. I'd take over and say the following,"ok, I just fixed the problem for you" right after I killed their account.

Then there was the memorable confrontation with Shap back when we were both younger and a little quicker to anger. He was in one of our programs, maybe blindlinks and making good money. He starts just hammering me on the boards maybe for arguing with one of his friends, I honestly don't remember. Anyway, he's just relentless and I'm like, "WTF? I'm your meal ticket" I told my people to go over his account and make sure he wasn't breaking any rules. Sure enough, he was opening us in a new window. (strictly forbidden) So now I come back with some "fuck yous" of my own, post his page and post our terms and cancelled his account. It was ugly and I'm sure we both look back and wished we hadn't done it. We both went on to bigger and better things so no biggie.

Hehe.. here you whiny little bitch.

http://www.rrredthumbs.com/junk/12clicks.jpg

I have got to photoshop that other one

Finally you admited being a scammer.

That's how I got scammed for the first and only time in this business. I had just started and after a couple of months I had reached the minimum payout. Two months after that, I still hadn't received my check so I wrote an e-mail and got a bs reply saying that my address looked suspicious so they didn't e-mail me the check, but promissed to do it. A month after that I still hadn't received my check. So I e-mailed them again and 12clicks pretty much told me to stop sending traffic because I was "not worth the trouble", and that he was going to send me a check with the total I ever made with Mojo Search.

2 months after I talked to the scammer I still didn't have my checks and I posted on a couple major boards (including this one). 12clicks started some bs threads saying that I didn't knew my address and that the checks were returned to them or something.

I hope the newbies around here are reading this and NEVER send any traffic to this scammer. I've seen quite a lot of people complaining about not breaking any rules and never getting paid.

The worst part is that the minimum payout was around $25 or something, so he's a small time thief, nothing else.

He doesn't even deny it.

:321GFY

That looks small time but with the amount of people he did this to its not really small time anymore.

wow this thread brings back memories...

StandardInternet was one of my first sponsors :thumbsup

You think I don't know that?

The first time I posted on GFY about not getting paid by these scammers I got at least 15 people saying the exact same thing.

I am what I am. :)

You and Mojo bent over backwards to help me out when I started, I"ll never forget that.

Ron is a pioneer, and I am glad to see him get his due.

Knee in the nuts from me later this year.