Mine too

the haters usually come out at night (after their real job during the day is over)
there really are far fewer haters out there. Scammers and dopes tend not to hang around. look at tranza, he's got to pretend that some day long ago he had 15 people agreeing with him. :1orglaugh

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I remember this.

I knew he'd win so when I called up the trophy place I said "Go down to your basement and find the biggest, ugliest trophy you can. I want the one that is so ridiculous you're ashamed to sell it to anyone."

And there it is. And I never won it back from the bastard in the last 7 years.

https://secure13.nexternal.com/arcad...r-Chexx_lg.gif

I would so... so.... SO kick your ass at bubble hockey.

But you hang on to that trophy for me, k? Thanks man. :D

I love these interviews

Oh NO back off Rammy he is ALLLLLLL mine! grrr :mad:


Great Interview Sleazy! I love reading all of 12Clicks posts. He is my big sexy beast! :Graucho

I love ya Ron and I can't wait to read this whole thread.

I love your dinners as well and hope to attend them again when you get your ass back in the game. The first dinner I attended I felt the Mojo that night LOL Even kicked ass at the craps table! Can't wait to see you again! :wetkiss

Ron + Loryn + Grey Goose Vodka Martini's = :banana

Here is a pic of my sexy beast with two of my favorite girls!

http://loryntaylor.com/12Clicks.jpg



I hear that Mojo likes his dessert fed to him by tall blondes, is this true?

far far fewer than there used to be, thats for sure. When pay per click died in adult, the cheaters died with it. Ok, so a lot of them jumped into adwords now.:1orglaugh

During blindlinks/rawlikesushi days, I could come in, look over the new signups that came in overnight and term 10, 15 accounts right away. It was just amazing. And then to see them get better.
We're talking a time when most programs still didn't record ips for the clicks. Cheaters would just set up a hitbot and collect checks. These guys were simple to catch. Then we'd compare raw/unique ratio. You run a blindlinks program and a guy has a page with all your links on it but the guy sends 100% unique traffic to you, he gives himself away. That was a give away even after they started spoofing ips.
In our search program it was even easier. Guy would make a ton of money, go to the site and he's just got a blank searchbox yet he'd have 1000 searches on "hot sex" he'd spoof the ip but forget to spoof search terms. Then they got smarter and started using term lists. Of course, we were ahead of them there too. Since we logged searches, we knew what a random search pattern would look like. you could pick out a term list in a seond.

I'm fairly certain I've seen every type of cheating out there except carding (because we never dealt with signups) but I already know all the things I'll be looking for there too. its all a matter of gathering info and picking out the oddity.



sorry, too wordy, I know. here's a pic of two hot men for the trouble of reading this rambley post:
http://www.12clicks.com/12clicks_kjell.jpg

Not only that, I have an 8x10 glossy of mojo signed,"you're so gay, love Mojo"
I have to be careful not to let it face any mirrors as it could disrupt the space/time continueum

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Because of that statement it's guaranteed to be the longest one yet! :winkwink:

Ron asked me to marry him and make little Republican babies but we live on different sides of the country so marriage and family are out of the question. We have to settle for Internet lovin instead! :1orglaugh

I shall hold nothing back, including a pic I have of you!:winkwink:
http://www.12clicks.com/bradmitchell_dance.jpg

I've never been a huge car guy, I did the SL thing for the last 2 summers but now I'm driving a 300 hemi. I also have a Navigator
I know I have pics of the SL somewhere but I don't think I have any of the other 2. who would take pics of an ordinary car?:winkwink:

yeah, here's the SL. sorry, its all I have.
http://12clicks.com/s1s.jpg

Hooorah! Ron gets an Ambush? I'm glued to my screen!!

I would post a photo but my ftp isn't set up on this station yet..

and I would watch the video, but I haven't found the box with my speakers in it yet...


I have always enjoyed my time with Ron, be it over an incredible dinner at Le Cirque or over drinks at the GFY party.

Oh dear...

did I or did I not teach you everything you knew about blindlinks programs via icq?
hahahaha

yes, ladies and gentleman, before our little porn starlet Ram became famous on film, he ran a little program called cheattraffic.com :winkwink:

sorry, Elli. You're only collateral damage:winkwink:

Lol. I have that thread bookmarked on my home PC. I'll make sure I bump it when I get home.

that would mean several people aren't bright enough to utilize it instead of one.

just walk out of your bedroom and grab your "home PC" from your mom.

Interesting read , no doubt.

Nice seeing pioneers active again. I mean Mojo posting..holy fuck.

Good luck with your new venture :)

I honestly don't remember how the name came about, maybe mojo remembers and will post his recollection. I know it involved us brainstorming around the idea of paying for raw traffic but thats it.
Rawlikesushi was an unbelievably successful program. This came on the heels of blindlinks.com which was hugely successful as well. If I remember correctly, we payed 3 cents raw for text links and 4 cents raw for button clicks (highly clickable buttons) The volumes where just amazing and between the two programs, we had just about every webmaster in adult in one or both of them. Sending out checks at the end of the month was a major operation. Between these programs and our mainstream stuff I think we have a small room filled with cancelled checks.

Even though the adult world was much smaller then, it was still a very heady time to control that much traffic, and make good money off of it. Our margins were huge.

I just laughed so hard....oh man : )

I love your wit Ron.

I am going to have to read the remainder from Europe. Looking forward to it!

How much for ModF?
I have some plans to utilize his assets :)

Hey, at least you could have denied that was you in the photo! My hairline is unfortunately un-mistakeable!

:)

Brad

Wow, is this thread ever a walk down memory lane.

12clicks (unknowingly) got me started in the 'pay-per-click' game.

why did my spyware alarm go off when I downloaded that?

Okay that was good.

all of my prettiest shirts go with jeans. Its quite a dillema since I was thinking of wearing pants.

I like to refer to them as "the ugly years"

By my figuring 12clicks owes me a good chunk of money for terminating his program before I was done sending clicks.

:1orglaugh I've had a few of those :1orglaugh
Mamma Time's been Kind :thumbsup

:( opening a browser in a new window is a violation

Its amazing, you have some of the most beautful women in the industry as friends. Must be the wit ;)

Well it sure isn't his penis :winkwink: ha sorry I couldn't resist.

Nice! :1orglaugh


oh that cracked me up haha, sorry clicky

on with the show!

someone i have a LOT of respect for and look up to in this business.

Great read so far.
I love the pic of you and Ultimate Blackjack. :)

Thanks to KK for clarifying this question. I thought it meant "intimidate" and was going to tell the story of how when we rolled out blindlinks.com we were denied a chance to bid on advertising on Ynot. You see, back then, you bid on the top banner adspace and because of the "coddle the surfer" mentality of lil Ricky and khan, they refused to allow us to bid on the spot if we were going to use it for blindlinks.com, thinking blindlinks was the bane of the industry. So, with typical gay flair, Mojo and I threw a hissy fit (with the help of Serge who at the time was making a lot of money off of us) and took our show over to netpond (it may have still been called "condomproject" back then). Ynot became a ghost town overnight. They went from being the GFY of their day to the tunafishbitch.com of their day.

what that had to do with intimidation, I don't know but its an interesting story of the cutthroat things that went on back then and it was the first story to pop into my head when I saw the question.

But he meant "imitate" didn't he?

The person I imitate best (or worse depending on your point of view) is Brad Shaw.
Back in the day, Robert and I had two other partners and the 4 of us for whatever reason, always pretended we were Brad when we would talk about him. Back then he was a good friend who we had a lot of interaction with. I don't know how it started or why but the 4 of us would use a high pitched voice that sounded like SNL's "Mr. Bill" whenever his name came up.
So one year in Vegas, we take him and KK to dinner at Picasso. KK is also a long time good friend of mine. We had a great dinner listening to Brad tell us all about what he'd been up to. Talking about fishing tournaments where the all wore matching shirts, etc. etc. About half way through the night, Brad says, "so, I hear you guys do an impression of me"
KK (that snitching little bitch) must have told him about it.
We all respond with denials, "no, we really don't. nah, its not that good. No, we hardly ever do it"
he's like, "come on guys, I know about it, its ok. let's hear it"
The 4 of us look at each other, shrug, and then break out our Brad voices, regurgitating every single thing he had said at dinner. For the next hour, it was a high pitched tour de force.
The 6 of us were laughing so hard we couldn't breath.

And Brad was a great great sport. He was like a kid waiting to get shot with a water pistle and instead getting blasted with a fire hose. funny funny night.

look, BigE digs me.
http://www.12clicks.com/12clicks_bigE.jpg

maybe they just ran out of people.