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I am going to have to hurry home so I can read this entire ambush

Yes yes those were the day's :thumbsup

Thats awesome!

:)

Duke

So far this thread delivers :thumbsup

Why yes it does :thumbsup

shall we pick this up again?

If you see me looking like this, its probably not a good idea to try to make a traffic deal.
http://www.12clicks.com/12clicks_drunk.jpg

Here's a classic example of a guy you don't want to do business with.
doesn't know his mom's address and wants to blame everyone else for it.

The real story goes like this:

After 3 or 4 months, tranza finally reaches our 25.00 minimum. We send out a check to the address he has supplied. He sends an email a day before a check could possibly arrive. (almost like he knows its not coming already)
He's told to give it a chance to arrive.

at some point later he sends another email saying he doesn't have his check. Our affiliate manager checks with our book keeper that its been sent. It was.
Since we're sending it to the third world, he's told to wait a bit longer because sometimes mail is slow when the postman rides a donkey.
More time goes by, still no check. No I become involved because the joker knows who I am from the boards. no problem, I help anyone who contacts me.
I put a stop payment on check number 1 at a cost of $20.00 to us have him verify his address a second time, and send out a new $25 and change check.
He emails again a few weeks later. still no check. we go rouind and round again. we put a stop payment on check number 2 at a cost of $20.00 and send out a 3rd check for $25 and change.
While this is going on, he starts going to the boards explaining how I'm cheating him out of his $25.00 even though I've now spent $40.00 plus postage to try to get him his $25.00
Well, once you start calling me a scammer while my people are busy helping you, I'm done with you.

At some point, you have to realize that just because you're working out of your mom's basement does not mean the rest of us are and if you want to operate a business, at some point you have to act like a businessman or at the very least, know your mom's address.

We manage to mail checks to every country in the world but tranza, we decide we want to cheat him out of his $25.00:evil-laug

Or they are bright enough to keep interesting/useful information on their own server and not have to be someone who has to ask for it :)

hmmm, this is a tough question. There have been many people who have disappeared over the years both big and small. People like Tropix Terry, JD DJ, Pushrod, John IP, Sammi from Sammie's hot bucks, that list goes on and on. This business has also very quietly squeezed out most of the mid level webmasters who made an ok living with freesites, tgps, etc. Now you have program operators, part timers, and a very select few in between. But I get the vibe you want me to name current names in the hope of causing trouble. :winkwink:
Some people would say time has passed *me* by because I've been out of adult for so long but we'll see. If I make a successful return, could you really then say time has passed anyone by? perhaps, like me, they were just chasing other ventures.

ok, ok, I think time has passed Serge by. hahahaha, is that what you want?
I'm sure Serge is quite happy and living quite comfortably with time in adult passing him by. He certainly is only a shadow of his former self and couldn't come back with "Serge's Cash II, Electric Boogaloo" especially after this video: http://www.cecash.com/agent69/ Starring Serge, Mike AI, Sharky, Phillip Arrumbala, Brad Shaw, and more.
But hey, without Serge, I wouldn't be who I am today.

If you haven't seen this, you've got to watch. its a masterpiece.

Who else? hmmmmm. I honestly don't know. this business eats it's weak, once time has passed you by, you disappear, you don't hang around.

man, you're a regular business genius! Lets see, if I cheat 10,000 webmasters out of $25.00 each, thats a whopping $250,000.00.

I'm sure you, being the scammer you are, would throw your reputation away for pocket change like that but son, out side of mom's house, that ain't what we call "not really small time"
:1orglaugh

I'd like to amend this answer to include Peaches (who's post above brought her to mind). She's been reduced to making nonsensical posts on chatboards.

oh, and confucy. though I don't know if she was ever *in* this business she certainly pretends she was and tries to act like show knows about the past and present. sadly, she gets most of it wrong.

:1orglaugh

And yet you have nothing bad to say! shocking.:winkwink:

Dude, refresh my memory. I'm getting old.

And you're not even from the US!!!!

the horror!:winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh




By the by...you sure are purty in pink :winkwink:

Dude, I haven't played a serious game of bubble hockey in a few years but I'd still kick your ass.
I played in a huge tournament at a big bar by us and lost in the finals to a ringer who travelled around winning the prizes offered in such tournaments. this one was a jetski.
I would not tarnish my internet rep. by losing to you. :winkwink:

Without going into detail. Mojo asked me back in 99 to beta RLS with some traffic, and you gave me some liberties in sending that traffic. Back in those early days when I was builing up the traffic, and CJ was profitable, it was a big favor. To my knowledge, or maybe it was because back then I was building up to over 500k a day to my CJ's, I was the only one you gave the ok to send traffic that way.

At the time, being new, it was huge gesture, and I never forgot the generosity you guys showed.

bumpin' for a good interview!

Holy shit, did my Q Score just jump after this post or what?:winkwink:
You certainly know how to flatter me to the point of embarrassing me.

you know, when you read this post after you quote it, this part reads:
Ron + Loryn + Grey Goose Vodka Martini's = : banana

And I'm thinking to myself, "shit, I thought I hid the banana growing in my pants pretty well when we were at the bar." :1orglaugh

Yeah, my internet moves are killer! :winkwink:

This is maybe the most priceless piece of the era.....! I laughed my ass off again.

http://www.cecash.com/agent69/

But, you kinda had 'to be there, to understand all that it inflects. A 'newbie just would't 'get it. A great memory of power politics at it's peak:-)

Do you have a pic of us?
I can't find one but I'm sure its been taken.
post it.

hey 12clicks

I see 12clickscash.com is up and running....is the official launch today?

Thanks Nick.
Any truth to the rumor that you want me to succeed so you can bash me?:winkwink:

I just have to say I bet you look much hotter in the 300 than the Benz :winkwink:

This shall be an awesome read! If you've never been to one of 12clicks and Mojo's dinners then you are totally missing out. Cant wait for the next one! ;)

Its princess 12clicks! ;)

Well. maybe we can ask him to drop in here and answer that. I would guess that there may have been one or two times where my zeal has embarrassed him or he'd have wished I toned it down just a little but I'd say in general, he's ok with it.
In the rough and tumble world of adult click brokering, you needed someone who isn't afraid to stomp on the necks of your enemies. I think he was ok with me being that guy.
I never lie and I rarely attack (its almost always a response) thats why my friends are who they are and my enemies are who *they* are. :winkwink:

exclusive pics of 12clicks and his evil twin brother
http://gfy.webspacemania.com/2.jpg/

I hear it's even funny in dutch.:winkwink:

to say nothing of your dance moves.

Not true! I remember you as an affiliate and I remember you (briefly) as a competitor.
You were always a good guy.

I remember that banner! It's a crack up!

because it knows as much about spyware as you do?:winkwink:


that *was* fucking funny.

What does it deliver? I'd like a pizza, can it bring me THAT? Didn't think so!

:1orglaugh

by letting the top 2 inches fall off?
I'm only 6'4" you don't really want to start talking about our figures, do you?:winkwink:
http://www.12clicks.com/priceless_sleazy.jpg

and while I'm on the sleazy photochop thing, I found this oldie but goodie:
http://www.12clicksfanclub.com/galle...lbum01/mac.jpg

That's one theory.....

http://www.12clicksfanclub.com/galle.../queer_eye.jpg

nice read so far i had dinner at picasso with mojo and ron and the botto boys one of the best dinners I have ever eaten

mann i look good in a party hat

That was the first year sleazy threw a tgp party, and I have to say sponsoring most of them has been one of the best networking and profitable ad spends I have done :)

:)

12clicks what age were you when you got into the online adult industry?

This thread has just the right balance of information, industry history, style, humor, charisma, attempted drama, and large models passed out on couches

Sounds like someone deserves a raise!! lol!

*ducks and hides(

I'll admit, I too lost to one of these "ringers" once. There was a guy in a local bar taking on all comers. He was destroying everyone 8-0, 10-0 etc. No one could beat him. Then people coaxed me to take him on, the game was insane. It ended in a score of 8-6.... I lost. But that "ringer" shook my hand and said that's the closest he's ever come to having just some guy out of the crowd nearly beat him.

I haven't played it in about 10 years now Ron. But I've played the game so much in my life before that, that working those handles is instinctual to me. I would be honored to kick your a... uh, PLAY you win or lose any day. :D

That could probably be because adult isn't my main focus anymore :) For some reason you think I don't make money in adult or any other business. I can tell you I'm making more now that I ever have and and that includes the late glory days where we could all make 6 figures a year while barely working :thumbsup Hell, I probably still make more with adult that most people posting here.

You should know better than anyone, Ron: If you have even a bit of business sense and ambition, working for yourself earns you a lot more money, happiness and satisfaction than being a paid employee - no matter how high up the ladder the title you've given yourself is. I had to find that out the hard way, but at least I learned before I got TOO old :1orglaugh Nothing has passed me by, I've always chosen my own path.

Of course, Ron has somehow found a way that I can collect SSI but he won't share it with me :(

nah, it just seems that way. the women in this business find me harmless and therefore safe to hang with.

size whore.:moon