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CDSmith 09-14-2006 08:41 PM
Speaking of famous dinners, the one where 12clicks proposed to his wife was quite memorable I'm told...



http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1147993161.jpg


:D

CDSmith 09-14-2006 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
I'm Batman
http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/12clicksbatman.jpg

Anna_O 09-15-2006 03:06 AM
And it continues to deliver! We want more damnit :)

RAM 09-15-2006 03:19 AM
great stuff and looking forward to the new program :thumbsup

AmeliaG 09-15-2006 03:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
My famous dinners. ok, I guess they are famous because of the good time everyone attending has. Our dinners usually consist of less than 15 people, all of them tops in our industry. The venues have always been fantastic (in a gay way) such as Picasso, Delmonicos, Le Cirque, and Smith&Wollenski's
People polite enough to accept our invitation have been a who's who of the industry. Besides the people already mentioned in this thread, we've had Lensman, Ron Cadwell, Tony Morgan, Botto Brothers, JB, Mike Strouse, Shemp, Gary Kremen, Chris Mallick, Punker Barbie, Three Kisses Marie, KK, Brad Shaw, Lars, Python Aly, Loryn, Butterflied, Pornkings Carol, Jen, and Lisa, Cory, and really a host of others (again, I'll be crucified for forgetting names) but who wouldn't have a good time in that company.

As far as whether its an attempt to buy friends, can you hit these people up and see if its working?
How do you forget me three posts after photos of us hanging out in Vegas?

12clicks 09-15-2006 04:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimmykim
Snitching little bitch! Woohooo! Now you owe me dinner when you get to LA!
You're going to be in LA?
I now do a Kimmy Kim impression.:winkwink:

12clicks 09-15-2006 04:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojo
I enjoyed the pics of your house.

Why don't you post a pic of the door to your wine cellar? I can't get enough of that.
Can't get enough of my wine? yeah, I know.:winkwink:

I don't have a pic of the door. I looked on my laptop last night and couldn't find any other house pics.

not satisfied with a fat guy sleeping on a couch?

12clicks 09-15-2006 04:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
That was a great night in Phoenix! I remember Kourush was mixing up the 80s music (and more) and the Red Bull Vodkas had me in quite the happy dancing place. I don't so much mind if everyone else thinks I am a dork when I am enjoying myself :thumbsup

Brad
Dude, you were like John Travolta's retarded younger brother.

RAM 09-15-2006 04:55 AM
Do you think my spelling is getting better ??????????


O'man did I just ask for it or what

12clicks 09-15-2006 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
28. Why do trolls get to you on GFY so much? Ego problems?
They don't get to me, however, I do think its important to slap down trolls when they raise their collective ugly heads to spew bullshit.
You have trash like the now banned "rich" who used to run around calling me a thief (even though he never used my programs supposedly) then coming back as "mr.soul" and calling me a thief and referencing "all the other people who agree" like "rich"
These losers build their own consensus with multiple accounts and if left unchecked or unchallenged, you wake up one day with an archive of threads calling you a cheater when its really the work of a couple of former theives who are out to get their pound of flesh for me catching them stealing.

Then you have people like pimpdog who hate me for my popularity and fear my return to adult. Most people can see through his lame "you shave" nonsense but I still enjoy slapping him down.

Then there's the political threads.:winkwink: It really worries me that all these kids firmly believe the shit they spew about conspiracies. I don't mind them but I do worry about them. I see it as an inability to think logically.

As far as having an ego problem. you think I have one? I host a page full of photochops of myself, 90% of which are not flattering.:winkwink:

12clicks 09-15-2006 06:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
29. If you could start over today in 1996 or so - what would you do differently?
I'd have bought more of the domains that were just out there for the taking, I'd have had us put a better effort into building and running an adult program seperate from our click brokerage, I'd have hit mainstream sooner And I'd have developed a TGP to keep in my back pocket for traffic.

Oh, and I would have asked Lensman for a piece of the action when he first opened GFY. :winkwink:


Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
If you started from nothing today how would you start knowing what you know?
It is impossible to know what I know starting today. Thats what makes me such a valuable commodity. Are there things I don't know? Sure but my knowledge base is so big, I can figure out what I don't know.
If you're asking me how I would go about starting from scratch today, I'd say learn the TGP game, learn how to siphon off traffic to send to your own freesite, and at the same time, learn SEO.
As someone new, you really need to develope low cost traffic sources. Everything else is secondary imo.
You could also see if you could land a job remotely with someone to expand your knowledge while laying the groundwork for your own business.

12clicks 09-15-2006 06:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetums
I would actually pay to see you do the "electric boogaloo" :winkwink:
Ha ha, as long as I get the money up front 'cause once I start, you'll ask me to stop.:winkwink:

12clicks 09-15-2006 06:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swoop
so do u miss me at all?
You're not here?
http://www.12clicks.com/duncehat.jpg

12clicks 09-15-2006 06:09 AM
and yes, thats a giant hat swoop is wearing.

CheeseFrog 09-15-2006 06:31 AM
Damn, I never knew who this 12clicks guy was, but now that I've seen the pics, I remember seeing him at some of the shows. Anyway, good read so far.

swoop 09-15-2006 06:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
and yes, thats a giant hat swoop is wearing.
ahh, the memories

12clicks 09-15-2006 06:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
30. FTC making it too hard for you to make money in mainstream anymore? That why you're looking at adult again?
No, actually I'm forcasting a second crash in mainstream and I have an opportunity to jump back into adult.
We've always been a company that strikes where the iron is hot and moves on when the iron is cold.
Look at our history, we move from free sites to click brokering blindlinks to click brokering buttons and textlinks, to mainstream blindlinks, to brokering searches, to brokering popups, to inhouse sales of cellphones, to banner ad networks, and now back to adult.

And I do believe we are on an extremely short list of adult programs who, when closing their doors (blindlinks and rawlikesushi), gave a month's notice so webmasters could get their links down and paid everyone in full rather than sneak off into the night.

Brad Mitchell 09-15-2006 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
Dude, you were like John Travolta's retarded younger brother.
HEY... Are you calling me a scientologist? :1orglaugh

Brad

MikeFold 09-15-2006 07:20 AM
I remember standing there watching Sharpies cigarette ash that day too in N.J...it was almost the whole length, and you just knew it had to drop off.

too funny

12clicks 09-15-2006 07:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
31. What shows do you attend? Why did you continue to attend certain shows even though you were out of adult?
I generally always went to vegas though I did skip last year. We were never huge travelers but I think that will change with the launch of the program. I'm going to LA in november and that might start the travel circuit for me.
In the past, I've always tried to at least go to Vegas and Miami though I've also been to montreal a couple times, vegas in november and august a couple times, Phoenix, toronto, and a few others.
I still go because I have a lot of friends in the biz that I enjoy seeing. I also never really considered myself completely out of adult.
Quite frankly, I was made for adult and look forward to coming back full force.

Oh, and something I forgot to mention when answering the "how does mojo feel about your antics" question, My style does not fit mainstream like it does adult. I was quickly banned from every mainstream chat board I posted on. In mainstream they are WAY WAY more protective of their thieves than adult ever was.

TurboAngel 09-15-2006 07:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
Ha, another good story.
Yeah, back before we knew him, he showed up at our door out of the blue. The receptionist calls back to my office and says,"theres someone here to see 12clicks"
well, no one just shows up to see 12clicks at our office. I was a bit freaked so I told her to put him in our conferance room. I then told one of our sales guys to go to talk to him see what he wants, and get rid of him.
Only later did I realize who he was, what he did, and how much I liked him.

He's only one of 3 people who ever came to the office. ok, 4. I forgot about Nina Knows Best.

Great story! LocalG told it a little different tho.

:thumbsup

Cyndalie 09-15-2006 08:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
If you're asking me how I would go about starting from scratch today, I'd say learn the TGP game, learn how to siphon off traffic to send to your own freesite, and at the same time, learn SEO.
As someone new, you really need to develope low cost traffic sources. Everything else is secondary imo.
Very wise. I don't care what you're promoting. If you can't harvest and drive traffic getting started can be really expensive. Skills pay the bills, not magic.

Major (Tom) 09-15-2006 08:19 AM
This ambush is huge.
I never met 12 clicks, but i stood next to him in phoneix the year before last at the video arcade place. I was going to introduce myself but I got the vibe he didn't feel like chatting me with me much. No hard feelings though and much respect to an industry pioneer.
cheers
Duke

12clicks 09-15-2006 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike33
How old are you now?

How old are you kids? Are they interested in business/entreprenuership(sp) or do you think they will pursue careers in the professions?

Sorry if thse question were already asked, I didn't notice them.

What's your educational background and how important has formal schooling been in who you are and how you run your business.
I'm 42. I don't admit to having parents or children. There's some things that are just not chat board fodder. However, any children of mine would not be allowed to work in this biz. While I think its a perfect biz for me, I would hope to produce lawyers, doctors, and indian chiefs. :winkwink:

As far as education, I graduated highschool but did not go to college. I scored a 1210 on my SATs which wasn't a bad score back then. I had an offer from a college football coach to come play for them but they were too hoity toity to give out athletic scholarships. I applied to my girlfriend's college fully expecting to get in. They never got my transcripts and therefore turned me down. I got a job planning on going to school the following sememster and it just never happened.
I did used to write term papers for one of my girl friends but that was as close as I got.
Besides my stint as a young hot bartender and my apprentice years in construction, I've never worked for anyone. I've always been an entreprenuer.

I *do* however think education is important which is one of the main reasons I wanted a library in my home. While I do have a couple of shelves of light reading, most of my library consists of history and other important writings.

12clicks 09-15-2006 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonesy
after reading this interview so far as well as the banter, one word comes to mind.

Enigma.


carry on.
An Enigma, wrapped in a question.

lulu36 09-15-2006 09:27 AM
you don't really read............... in your library. be honest. http://www.ambushinterview.com/lulu/library.jpg

12clicks 09-15-2006 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by escorpio
I agree that 12clicks is right on the money with this issue and I respect him for having the balls to speak about it despite all the shit he takes.
well, thank you.

12clicks 09-15-2006 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDSmith
that's actually scary:1orglaugh

Drake 09-15-2006 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
And I do believe we are on an extremely short list of adult programs who, when closing their doors (blindlinks and rawlikesushi), gave a month's notice so webmasters could get their links down and paid everyone in full rather than sneak off into the night.
This says a lot. Kudos.

xxxdesign-net 09-15-2006 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu36
you don't really read............... in your library. be honest. http://www.ambushinterview.com/lulu/library.jpg
I believe it's the lastest Ann Coulter's book he's having on his chest...

Btw.. this photo deserves it's own caption contest..

Here's my entry... "One down... 300 to go!" :)

12clicks 09-15-2006 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmeliaG
How do you forget me three posts after photos of us hanging out in Vegas?
oh stop!:winkwink: you sat at my right hand in Delmonico's. I said I'd end up not listing everyone and catch hell for it.
Elli, Lindsey, Sheri Santiago, Hooper.
There, I named some more and still didn't cover everyone!

12clicks 09-15-2006 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RAM
Do you think my spelling is getting better ??????????


O'man did I just ask for it or what
hahahaha, its been so long I've forgotten about that. Yeah, you're spelling has really gotten a lot better. I used to need an interpreter for your posts.

12clicks 09-15-2006 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
32. How did Serge and Yishai get the beter of you in business?
Our relationship with Yishai was completely professional. We didn't actually have much interaction with him.

We had a dispute with Serge when we decided to stop sending him traffic. He never sent the last check.:winkwink: Not a very big deal really and so long ago it doesn't really matter.
Hell, Worldcom didn't send us our last check either and that one was for 1.5 million dollars.
kinda puts Serge's check in perspective.
Besides, Serge was instrumental in giving us our start. It's all water under the bridge.

sperbonzo 09-15-2006 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
if your point of view spans all of 2 years, its kinda easy to misunderstand.
EXACTLY! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Eservices2k3 09-15-2006 09:59 AM
What % do you own of the company?

Manowar 09-15-2006 10:00 AM
awesome interview

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
HEY... Are you calling me a scientologist?
is that what they call this? Scientology?
http://www.12clicks.com/bradmitchell_dance2.jpg

Jman 09-15-2006 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
hmmmm, this will take me a long time to answer.
who do I look up to?
obviously Mojo. He's like a gentleman farmer of the internet. I don't think he's ever had an enemy even when *we've* had enemies. As I've said before, he's brilliant. Other people see that and want to be around him because of it. Being his idiot sidekick has opened many door for me. :winkwink:

Another guy, is Ken Lawson. honest as the day is long. I used to say back in the day, "Ken is so honest, I'd trust him with my naked wife." and its true. hell of a guy. (of course, he never thought much of me, haha)

Ron Cadwell is another guy who has my full respect. Much like Mojo, he's brilliant. Always entertaining and interesting at our dinners, always someone I look up to. When we used to worry about processors, I ALWAYS said, as long as one of the processors is run by Ron Cadwell, this business is in good hands. Another guy I'd trust completely.

Uh, I don't think I can do a paragraph for each guy I respect in this business so let me list them.

Lars, Rich Botto, Lensman, Brad Shaw, Zimm, Kjell, John Bennett, David Vander Pole (or however that dutch bastard spells it), Steve Lightspeed, Marc De, Kevin from Top Bucks, boy there's really too many to name and I'll piss some guys off by forgetting them.:(

but I make special room for Sweet T. Tony has always always been good to us. A good friend, generous, etc. He really at times led us noobs around vegas by the hand. I',m sure it meant nothing to him but it meant everything to us. Even when we weren't doing business with him he was always great.
Thanks T.

People I look down on?
shit, again I know you hope I name names so let me think.
Well, the obvious is pimpdog. How on earth do
people do business with him. He's an immature woman hater who has no business here. Our business is dependent on woman!!!! This asshole attacks them for no reason. If you're in this business and doing business with him, you're an idiot. You can choose from so many sponsors and you choose him? its quite frankly irrisponsible.

hmmmm, who else? a good number of nameless people from the AWI board. So many thieves over there that I used to call it the "traffic cheaters board"

all the anon people on GFY of course. Very few people are truely anon, they've just burnt through thier other usernames.

then there's chat board trolls like m00d, webby, mr.soul, confucy, peaches, and several others who pretend to be in this business just so they can spew their nonsense.
Where is Confucy, lord was it fun to see some of you guys get on him/her or it ;-)

Manowar 09-15-2006 10:09 AM
i cant wait for #100

Jman 09-15-2006 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
is that what they call this? Scientology?
http://www.12clicks.com/bradmitchell_dance2.jpg
Fuck that looks like me at Lisa's wedding. I think i have never danced like I did then.... Good times I tell ya :thumbsup

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeFold
I remember standing there watching Sharpies cigarette ash that day too in N.J...it was almost the whole length, and you just knew it had to drop off.

too funny
Hey Mike, good to see you around.

MikeFold 09-15-2006 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks
Hey Mike, good to see you around.
i'm still lurking on occasion

Couldn't resist reading through this...
nice job ron

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboAngel
Great story! LocalG told it a little different tho.

:thumbsup
different memories, different points of view. :winkwink:

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker
This ambush is huge.
I never met 12 clicks, but i stood next to him in phoneix the year before last at the video arcade place. I was going to introduce myself but I got the vibe he didn't feel like chatting me with me much. No hard feelings though and much respect to an industry pioneer.
cheers
Duke
hmmmm, I could have been busy trying to juggle Cory and Tassy at the same time.
Dude, I may look like a dick but I'll always make time to chat with you.:winkwink:

15600219

sweetums 09-15-2006 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMan
Fuck that looks like me at Lisa's wedding. I think i have never danced like I did then.... Good times I tell ya :thumbsup

Good times it was...but, I'm really not sure we can call what you were doing "dancing" LOL :winkwink: You better be nice to me or I swear I'll break out the JMan impersonating MJ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu36
you don't really read............... in your library. be honest. http://www.ambushinterview.com/lulu/library.jpg
I always START by reading but that *is* a comfortable couch.

Anthony 09-15-2006 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeFold
i'm still lurking on occasion

Couldn't resist reading through this...
nice job ron
My Gawd! Mikey!!!

How's Semi Retirement treating you? :)

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike33
This says a lot. Kudos.
thanks Mike

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMan
Where is Confucy, lord was it fun to see some of you guys get on him/her or it ;-)
still spewing hate over at jbm

12clicks 09-15-2006 10:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMan
Fuck that looks like me at Lisa's wedding. I think i have never danced like I did then.... Good times I tell ya :thumbsup
are you a scientologist?:1orglaugh


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