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12clicks 09-14-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED
opus 1? are you single? :winkwink:

we've already determined our incompatibility, no?

a 2 foot back scratcher can't satisfy a 3 foot back, can it?:1orglaugh

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

yes, yes it does.:winkwink:

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by griffin
Be interesting to see what this considering the base of NATS.

lets just say, we expanded their base. :winkwink:

Anna_O 09-14-2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
ok, ok, I'm back.
2 martinis, and a shared bottle of 1990 Opus One and a 1993 bottle of something I don't remember, here I am

Never had a $250 bottle of wine before, but I hope it made you even more "entertaining"... :winkwink:

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck
Not sure but from now on you think about it when you see me post.

no, I really won't. I'm 12clicks so I can never be mistaken for anyone else. You're Franck because it doesn't matter if you're mistaken for someone else.

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna_O
Never had a $250 bottle of wine before, but I hope it made you even more "entertaining"... :winkwink:

lets all hope that, eh?

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie
It takes experience and foresight to build a great program. 12clicks, Mojo and their team have much of that and more. I wish them well.

hey, we could fall flat on our face just like anyone else could. Thinking we can waltz back into this biz would ensure our failure.
We will not be waltzing, we shall be break dancing.

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck
Btw, i dont think as a person you are totally retarded. I just dont like the way you did business back in the day.

That's ok, at some point you've got to have a cut off and not lower yourself to please the lowest common denominator.

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
I am going to have to hurry home so I can read this entire ambush

Dude, this is going to be a 4 day bender. you've got plenty of time.

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker
Thats awesome!

:)

Duke

I'm not sure vooman thought so.

Cyndalie 09-14-2006 04:35 PM

I'll take adware over that brower jacking toolbar installing bullshit that ran rampant mostly through mainstream about 2 years ago. I can understand the need for better ad tracking and targeted delivery but installing invasive programs and overriding browser functions...those people need to die!!! God I love my mac.

aimeesweet 09-14-2006 04:37 PM

12clicks, your ambush is very entertaining! Looking forward to the rest of it...

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
Or they are bright enough to keep interesting/useful information on their own server and not have to be someone who has to ask for it :)

right! its always smart to keep stuff past its valueable marketability.
I'd rather ask a dope why they are tripping on their dick than *be* the dope tripping on their dick.

Cyndalie 09-14-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
hey, we could fall flat on our face just like anyone else could. Thinking we can waltz back into this biz would ensure our failure.
We will not be waltzing, we shall be break dancing.

ah ha! hence the warm up :)

Talent, insight, foresight, and experience are good tools to have on your side though. As for the possibility of falling flat on your face, I never took you as one not to get back up and fight.

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeesweet
12clicks, your ambush is very entertaining! Looking forward to the rest of it...

you should see how entertaining I am in person.:winkwink:

Jman 09-14-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
you should see how entertaining I am in person.:winkwink:

You are killin me :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony
Without going into detail. Mojo asked me back in 99 to beta RLS with some traffic, and you gave me some liberties in sending that traffic. Back in those early days when I was builing up the traffic, and CJ was profitable, it was a big favor. To my knowledge, or maybe it was because back then I was building up to over 500k a day to my CJ's, I was the only one you gave the ok to send traffic that way.

At the time, being new, it was huge gesture, and I never forgot the generosity you guys showed.

dude, how funny is it to say "new" and "500k a day" in the same sentence?
noobs can not really grasp what it was like back then.
Glad you remember, glad we did right by you.

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lulu36
bumpin' for a good interview!

don't insult me, woman!
12clicks needs no charity bumps! :winkwink:

12clicks 09-14-2006 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetums

By the by...you sure are purty in pink :winkwink:

pink was the new black that year.

Cyndalie 09-14-2006 04:56 PM

300 women falling for 12clicks

Mojo 09-14-2006 04:58 PM

I enjoyed the pics of your house.

Why don't you post a pic of the door to your wine cellar? I can't get enough of that.

Brad Mitchell 09-14-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
to say nothing of your dance moves.

That was a great night in Phoenix! I remember Kourush was mixing up the 80s music (and more) and the Red Bull Vodkas had me in quite the happy dancing place. I don't so much mind if everyone else thinks I am a dork when I am enjoying myself :thumbsup

Brad

12clicks 09-14-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpie
This is maybe the most priceless piece of the era.....! I laughed my ass off again.

http://www.cecash.com/agent69/

But, you kinda had 'to be there, to understand all that it inflects. A 'newbie just would't 'get it. A great memory of power politics at it's peak:-)

Hey, I want to say that you are one of the people truly pushing our business forward. Your efforts with shows are tremendous and I thank you for it.

Now, a bit of a story about you.:winkwink:
Back in seacaucus NJ in what, 1999? At the party JoeE (I think) threw, I remember you cornering one of my then partners on a couch. he, sitting, you standing over him. You're smoking a cig with the longest ash I've ever seen about to drop off the cig, my partner caught undernieth, just waiting for it to drop on him.
We were laughing our asses off watching from across the room.
priceless.
Thanks for all the shows over the years.

Deej 09-14-2006 05:02 PM

Quality Entertainment...

Peaches 09-14-2006 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
right! its always smart to keep stuff past its valueable marketability.
I'd rather ask a dope why they are tripping on their dick than *be* the dope tripping on their dick.

Sweetie, YOU were the one asking for the archives. Apparently it still has "marketability" though that's not why they keep it :)

Just like the Agent 69 cartoon - there are a lot of people who have it on their servers besides CE. When you have your own servers, and it doesn't cost anything to keep something there, YNOT? :thumbsup

sweetums 09-14-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
hey, we could fall flat on our face just like anyone else could. Thinking we can waltz back into this biz would ensure our failure.
We will not be waltzing, we shall be break dancing.

I would actually pay to see you do the "electric boogaloo" :winkwink:

12clicks 09-14-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
hey 12clicks

I see 12clickscash.com is up and running....is the official launch today?

no. but since you're snooping where you shouldn't, do you like the design?

Deraj 09-14-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
it might have been earlier and ran through 2000.
http://www.12clicks.com/12clicks_gary.jpg


Ugh.. is that RRRED? :error

swoop 09-14-2006 05:10 PM

so do u miss me at all?

12clicks 09-14-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by punker barbie
This shall be an awesome read! If you've never been to one of 12clicks and Mojo's dinners then you are totally missing out. Cant wait for the next one! ;)

missing out on gazing upon the beauty that is "punker barbie":winkwink:

12clicks 09-14-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deraj
Ugh.. is that RRRED? :error

its an awful picture of her. Being a gentleman, I had to take this question out of order to defend her honor.
She's a hottie. Check out the other pic of the two of us.

12clicks 09-14-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny
I remember that banner! It's a crack up!

it signed up a ton of webmasters in its day.:winkwink:

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-14-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
If you've got something to say, don't beat around the bush, fuckin' say it!:winkwink:
http://www.12clicks.com/separated_at_birth2.jpg

Good interview...

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I always knew I was a star And now, the rest of the world seems to agree with me.

- Freddie Mercury
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12clicks 09-14-2006 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
nice read so far i had dinner at picasso with mojo and ron and the botto boys one of the best dinners I have ever eaten

dude, that was one hell of a night.
Here's how I remember it.
It was our first try at throwing a big shot dinner. Robert and I had somehow arrainged to pic up the tab but I really don't remember us being the organizers of the event. Anyway, its you, the botto brothers, the 4 of us, Tony morgan, and a few others at Picasso and we're going to meet with some hot shot Casino dude who wanted to buy traffic from us.
At the time, the table represented a probably what, 30% reach of the entire internet?
Anyway, he come in late, greats the maitre de by name and tells the waiter to tell the chef (whos name he alos knows) that he's here and that he wants the chef to just make us whatever he wants. he then turns to the waiter and tells him to pick whatever wines he'd like to pair with the dishes the chef serves.
Robert and I look at each other and with our eyes, say to each other,"this is going to cost us a fortune":1orglaugh
The guy proceeds to explain how we can send him traffic and he'll count it by asking the arriving surfer to use a drop down box to explain where he came from.
After about 10 minutes of polite silence by us, I think it was Sweet T who finally interupted him and said something like,"no offense, but you've got over half of the adult net sitting at this table and we have a better way of counting traffic"
it broke the ice and we went on to have a great dinner. Never did business with the casino dude but dinner was fun.

Oh, and remember when they served Bob Botto quail for the main course and he balked? He says to the waiter, "um, I can't eat this. It looks too much like pigeon. I can't eat this"

verey funny night. very great night.

Lars, we need to do dinner again. Its been too long.

12clicks 09-14-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
mann i look good in a party hat

That was the first year sleazy threw a tgp party, and I have to say sponsoring most of them has been one of the best networking and profitable ad spends I have done :)

dude, you look good in a party hat because you're always wearing a party shirt.
The chop is all in good fun.

12clicks 09-14-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
25. Who do you look up to in online adult? Down on?

hmmmm, this will take me a long time to answer.
who do I look up to?
obviously Mojo. He's like a gentleman farmer of the internet. I don't think he's ever had an enemy even when *we've* had enemies. As I've said before, he's brilliant. Other people see that and want to be around him because of it. Being his idiot sidekick has opened many door for me. :winkwink:

Another guy, is Ken Lawson. honest as the day is long. I used to say back in the day, "Ken is so honest, I'd trust him with my naked wife." and its true. hell of a guy. (of course, he never thought much of me, haha)

Ron Cadwell is another guy who has my full respect. Much like Mojo, he's brilliant. Always entertaining and interesting at our dinners, always someone I look up to. When we used to worry about processors, I ALWAYS said, as long as one of the processors is run by Ron Cadwell, this business is in good hands. Another guy I'd trust completely.

Uh, I don't think I can do a paragraph for each guy I respect in this business so let me list them.

Lars, Rich Botto, Lensman, Brad Shaw, Zimm, Kjell, John Bennett, David Vander Pole (or however that dutch bastard spells it), Steve Lightspeed, Marc De, Kevin from Top Bucks, boy there's really too many to name and I'll piss some guys off by forgetting them.:(

but I make special room for Sweet T. Tony has always always been good to us. A good friend, generous, etc. He really at times led us noobs around vegas by the hand. I',m sure it meant nothing to him but it meant everything to us. Even when we weren't doing business with him he was always great.
Thanks T.

People I look down on?
shit, again I know you hope I name names so let me think.
Well, the obvious is pimpdog. How on earth do
people do business with him. He's an immature woman hater who has no business here. Our business is dependent on woman!!!! This asshole attacks them for no reason. If you're in this business and doing business with him, you're an idiot. You can choose from so many sponsors and you choose him? its quite frankly irrisponsible.

hmmmm, who else? a good number of nameless people from the AWI board. So many thieves over there that I used to call it the "traffic cheaters board"

all the anon people on GFY of course. Very few people are truely anon, they've just burnt through thier other usernames.

then there's chat board trolls like m00d, webby, mr.soul, confucy, peaches, and several others who pretend to be in this business just so they can spew their nonsense.

Drake 09-14-2006 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
That was a great night in Phoenix! I remember Kourush was mixing up the 80s music (and more) and the Red Bull Vodkas had me in quite the happy dancing place. I don't so much mind if everyone else thinks I am a dork when I am enjoying myself :thumbsup

Brad


That's all that matters:thumbsup

12clicks 09-14-2006 06:11 PM

god damn it, I knew I'd forget people.
Shemp, Mike Strouse, The Hun, Dave Purehardcore (ok, so thats his old school name)

Peaches 09-14-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
then there's chat board trolls like m00d, webby, mr.soul, confucy, peaches, and several others who pretend to be in this business just so they can spew their nonsense.

Gee Ron, I still get checks from a lot of people you mentioned looking up to. And I'm pretending to be in this business? I started in 1997 and started going to shows in 1999 and I think I met you for the first time at a show around 2001. I've probably been to more shows than you have :thumbsup I don't think I'd spend my own money to attend these events if I was "pretending" to be in the biz, lol.

I realize your issue - you have to make a decision that someone is lying between two people and it's in your best interest to choose me. I have no problem with that and I understand your reasoning. But acting like I'm not in this business and haven't been for years is beneath you. Don't lower yourself to that level.

CDSmith 09-14-2006 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
god damn it, I knew I'd forget people.
Shemp, Mike Strouse, The Hun, Dave Purehardcore (ok, so thats his old school name)

Nice save.


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