50 fatties

obestity is a health isssue, new stats have just come out that might surprize some people who think that they are on the slim side of things. if you are a women and your weighst line is larger than 31 inches and if you are a man and your weights line is larger than 35 inches you are at an expenentially higher rate of heart diseas and other diseas that are linked to obesity.
being heavier no matter if its 35 pounds over the weight you should be or more is a choice, one chooses to eat more and not exercies. The few people who have a medical issue that makes it HARDER to loose weight, it is just harder not impossible

that is just my two cents

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I wish. I couldn't put on weight if I tried. As for being in shape, that's a whole other matter. :Oh crap

Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome..is what I think you have heard some of us mention. This also have insulin resistance connected to it. It isn't an excuse but it is part of the reason mostly because it has only just started to be diagnosed in the last decade or so and the insulin connection in even less of a time. So, people like me who piled on the pounds as puberty hit but have been trying very long to lose the weight just weren't dealing with it correctly. For years I have been dieting just not to gain weight let alone drop it.

I have lost about 30lbs this year and it is very hard. My doctor put me on Xenical which was a major personal decission for me but I reached a wall that I have not been able to break through since I was 16..at this same weight the weight loss would stop. My doctor seems to think it is the same weight at which the insulin issues and the PCOS kicked in. I am about two pounds under that weight now with the help of Xenical (which isn't nearly as bad as people told me it would be). Xenical still makes you work for it though. I am doing all the things I have been doing for a while now - gym every other day and long walks the other days and I do not eat over 40g a fat a day. I was nearly at that level before but with Xenical I pay through pain if I go over that amount. I have always had a diet with a lot of veggies, I never deep fry anything, I have used lean cuts of meat for years too and the weight didn't budge. Xenical is SLOWLY helping by not allowing my body to digest 30 percent of the fat I eat. That gives me less fat for my insulin issues to cause to be stored.

You can spot a lot of pcos women by where the fat is on their body. Most of us carry it around our middle rather than all over. That doesn't mean that every woman that carries weight like that is pcos but most pcos women are apples :)

Anyway, I don't blame anyone for me being overweight but it has just taken along time to understand that what works for everyone else with losing weight doesn't work for me. I wish it did or I was one of those people that could just stop eating junk and the weight falls off.

I don't smoke, I very rarely drink and I have never done drugs but I pay for those people. Of course with an NHS system I don't need health insurance but I work and pay my taxes into the system so I pay for the care of the smokers, drunks and druggies. So, if somebody is helping me with my weight issues then I don't feel bad about that.

What a crapload of bull. :error

Repeat after me class: If you consume less calories than you burn, you will lose weight.

Are you saying that if you reduce your calorie intake, your body will magically decide to consume organs and lean skeletal tissue before fat? You must be magical.

I'm not mean to fat people, but I do work hard to stay in shape - if i eat bad and be lazy one day, it means the next day im going to the gym and eating healthly.

Fat people arnt bad people, but I see the fat as a sign hanging from them that reads 'I lack self control'.

Sure you could say the same thing about other bad habbits, take smoking for example. But if smoking made you look fat, i doubt many people would. Its the fact that the results of their over-eating and lazyness are right there on display for the world to see that bothers me and I cant understand why people let themselves slip so far. :2 cents:

How's that glycemic index? White bread and rice must taste sooooo good. You shovel much of it lately?

be a nice guy

sarah... c'mon... i applaud you for your efforts but you seem to be extremely clueless about diet, nutrition and basic physiology... and like always, that is the core problem.

what does insulin have to do with dietary fat intake and "digesting fat"?

insulin resistance is the product of continually spiking insulin by eating obscene amounts of sugars and simple starches. your body responds less and less to those spikes which diminishes your bodys ability to convert sugars to glucose for energy and result in more sugars being stored as fat and higher blood glucose levels.

almost anyone that is significantly overweight and obese has insulin issues and its that cycle that ultimately leads to higher blood glucose levels and full blown diabetes.




do you know why doctors prescribe pills like Xenical? its not because they want to support the pharmaceutical industry and watch their patients self destruct with useless medications with more risks than benefits. IT's BECAUSE 99.99% of people wont follow simple advice on diet and exercise to get their life back under control.

Do you know what Xenical is? how it works? It seems that you have no clue at all which again, helps to highlight the problem of how you ended up where you are. its a drug that simply binds to fats not allowing them to be digested. So basically, you are taking a pill to do what you don't have the willpower to do yourself and your doctor is prescribing it to you for that EXACT reason.

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I'd hit it

Awesome post! sarah_webinc and other fatties owned!

Your childish insults aside, yes, the glycemic index plays a part in my life these days. Of coruse before you know you have insulin issues....


Btw, you are an idiot.

http://www.family.org/resources/item.../P00286Bmi.jpg

Btw, your career fits your fatty profile.

I just told you above how xenical works by preventing 30 percent of the fat I eat from being digested. Hence, there is less fat for my body to deal with on a daily basis. I am not lazy and as stated above (again) I eat less than 40g a fat a day and exercise pretty much everyday. I have never in my life taken in huge amounts of sugars, etc. Largely because diabetes is in my family (many of whom are thin) so we ate to fit those lifestyles. I have never been told I am a diabetic but insulin resistance is obviously closely related. You are of course an expert on pcos and know that pcos causes the insulin resistence.

I won't argue that a lot of people that are put on xenical think it is an easy fix and that is why so many of them have side effects that i haven't had. They assume they can just eat whatever and take a magic pill. For those people it won't work. Just like people that get their stomach stapled and then head to the buffet. However, how is it not willpower to watch strictly what you eat and exercise?

I also don't think I ever blamed anyone for my weight. I simply said I had to figure out how my body worked before I could really start moving in the right direction.

You and others in these kinds of thread just wish to bash. You aren't here to applaud anyone (not that I asked for it, I didn't) but would find fault in anything I said. I am sure it that makes for a happy life.

i hope you have a nice day as well!

i struggle.. just like everyone struggles. its hard. its hard for anyone wanting to lose weight. its 10 times harder for to go from 15% bodyfat to 8% than it is to be obese and lose that extra fat.

the worse part about those problem is that the people who are doomed to fail are those who rationalize failure.

and regardless of what you posted, you still are very confused as dietary fat intake and insulin are not related. ... furthermore, 40 grams of healthy fats is a lot for a woman in a day. thats what i would be eating as a 230 pound, 5'10" male as i tried to lose weight.

... and taking xenical to prevent your body from absorbing fat isn't necessary if you are not eating those fats to begin with. thats what you don't seem to get. the problem is that you are taking a drug to prevent your body from digesting fat because you simply cant stop eating those fats. if you could, the drug would be of absolutely no benefit whatseover. its a crutch. its an easy way out. nothing more.

and yeah... this is a topic that i am a little pissy about. i dont like busting my ass, being in the gym 5 days a week or more, setting goals, working hard, eating perfectly, doing tons of cardio for fight the same problems an obese person is only to have them say "oh... well, its not my fault" - it is.

i have been slacking off, stopped the cardio and have been eating like shit for about 4 months now. i gained quite a bit of weight (about 20 pounds). its 100% my fault. the difference between me and someone that allows themself to get obese is that i take responsibility for it, i will change my diet completely, hit the weights and cardio again and change it.

... or... i can just gain 100 more pounds in the next 18 months, then blame everything but me and demand that airlines give me a second seat for free everytime i fly.

People say that about every facit of life. Business, education, success, health, sports, and the list goes on and on. Why would you let another persons excuses for failure bother you?

It sounds like you're pissed at yourself more than anything. Instead of busting your ass and doing things you don't want to do only to fall back again in 6 months to a year, why don't you just pick a moderate lifestyle change that you can live with that accomplishes some of your goals and makes you happy?

Wow 40G of fat is alot if you ask me for a serious diet.. I eat mostly veggies and it pretty much solves everything.. Because its impossible to get fat if you eat veggies and chicken/turkey once in awhile isnt it? I think I might eat about 12G of fat a day.. And never trans or saturated above 3G either if at all.

http://www.healthcalculators.org/calculators/fat.asp

Here's a fat calculator. I don't know how accurate it is, but its telling me I need 66g of fat daily. I'm 5'3, small frame, no exercise. That seems like a lot really.

Sure, we can send them all to fat camps(trailer parks).

http://www.hpathy.com/healthtools/calories-need.asp

This one tells me 55g and 1600 calories. I definitely don't hit either. Some days probably, but not as a daily intake.

Personaly, i'd take it further. Fat people who feel they are entitled to take up an extra passenger seat for "free," deserve to be lipo-suctioned and their carcass used as waterproof tents.

The worst type of human being is the ons that can only feel good about themself by pointing out the faults of others ....

Whether somebody is obese, jewish, polish, black, chinese, hindu or elsewise, they are no better or no worse than you asshole.

Learn a little bit of tolerance, and your life will become much more rewarding, and you will not be the lonely lost soul you are now.

and for the record, no I am not obese ... nor do I display the ignorant hatred towards those who are.

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Don't forget those obese human beings who will park in the handicapped section because they don't wish to walk across the parking lot. :321GFY

for whatever it is worth, both my dietican and the people that produce xenical state that a body needs atleast 20g of fat a day to function properly. They both reccomend between 30 and 40g a day whilst on xenical (keeping in mind 30 percent of that isn't digested). I stuck to 30 for a few weeks and didn't lose much, put it up to about 35..never more than 40..and began to lose.

The average person in today's world eats much more. Heck you can have that in one trip through the drive thru.

It is working for me so what problem does anyone have with that?

wasnt this guy begging for cash last week?

obese people are people without discipline..... get out and exercise and eat less, you fat fucks

Fat people don't live that long because majority of them has heart problems.. Be nice to them and don't make fun of them okay. hehe

Good. They deserve to die. You reap what you sow.

The US obesity epidemic is the new holocaust. Far more than six million Americans alone will die of fat-related syndromes that do nothing but tax our healthcare system.

You are queued up next in line.

i dont have a problem with myself. i am not obese and weight is not an issue for me. i know what good eating habits are. i know what i need to be eating everyday. i know how to eat to lose/control/maintain/gain weight with or without exercise or lifting weights. i know almost exactly how many calories or grams of fat/carbs/protein is in anything i eat from many years of keeping logs. i dont blame anyone or anything else when i need to lose 20 pounds... because i know what needs to be done and i know whats wrong when somethings wrong.

my problem begins when people start saying "its not my fault". thats not only doing a tremedous disservice to themselves, but it tells others that also need to lose weight to be healthy that they should be looking for excuses and not solutions. its really disturbing watching people (mostly women) come into the gym because they want to lose weight and hire a personal trainer.. then do absolutely nothing they're told, eat everything they shouldn't eat, give 50% effort in any exercise they do.. then watch them start comfortably explaining that they "know" why they are obese and listen to them casually list all the BS reasons for it... and then dissapear after 3 weeks of a less than spectacular effort.

i am personally tired of a country of people that take no personal responsibility for anything anymore. whether is because their kids are out shooting people, because they weigh 400 pounds or whatever.

i am tired of a world where suddenly eating too much, eating the wrong foods, not exercising and doing nothing but sitting around all day watching oprah is now a "disease".

i am tired of a world where people eat themselves into obesity and then sue a fast food restaurant.

many years ago, i was visiting my friend in seattle. he had one college nutrition class that he needed to go to, then he was free for the day. i decided to go with him. there was fat girl in there with a bag of potato chips, drinking a coca cola making all these same arguements about how she has all these reasons why she's fat. meanwhile, during that class alone as she was making these retarded arguments, she ate more than 1/2 her daily caloric requirements, all from useless foods. i kept thinking to myself that it would be pure comedy if it wasn't such a typical behavior.

The fact that she brought that stuff to a nutrition class shows there's a problem. That's like bringing a fifth of scotch to an AA meeting.

non-handicapped people parking in handicapped spaces is NOT limited to obese people ... I see more perfectly fit people doing this than anybody else ...

this is just assholism in general .... :disgust

That's beauty beyond comparison.. :upsidedow

Then why are you still here? I am tired of it too, and I'm leaving.