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lawked 11-16-2006 02:20 PM

So I think it's fair to say we can use adware to trigger only on AFF sites to open to their competition?

Seems like the same logic they're using to screw affiliates. Why not use their same supported technology to render their site to be ads generated for the competition?

Seems fair to me.

I know a few good russian programmers that work cheap to do the job. Any takers?

jacklaidlaw 11-16-2006 02:22 PM

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...endofzango.jpg

Daruma 11-16-2006 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11328912)
Lars went from hero to zero in a couple weeks... that's gonna be so hard to build something on that after what happened in the last 2 months.

he's a A#1 idiot... used to respect him - but no more..
http://www.hipocrita.net/hypocrite/h..._wallpaper.jpg

QuaWee 11-16-2006 02:52 PM

fuck Lars

TheSwed 11-16-2006 03:13 PM

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:thumbsup

will76 11-16-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee (Post 11329282)
fuck Lars

fuck Lars

Kimo 11-17-2006 01:46 AM

this shit needs a bump

cindyc 12-09-2006 06:46 PM

I think this was the worst public statement ever on GFY.. I normally don't post much but had to on this one.

minusonebit 12-10-2006 11:21 PM

This tread should never be allowed to die. :2cents:

Tryme 12-10-2006 11:36 PM

holy cow!!

MicDoohan 12-11-2006 12:51 AM

Absolutely pathetic:321GFY

Lars you are the epitomy of scum. Have a shit life. :mad:

Phil 12-11-2006 12:56 AM

what would some call "adware"... bwaaaaha... I guess others call it givemeware I guess.

BluMedia 12-11-2006 02:39 AM

I won't support any company using Zango or any adware period.

Mark

sicone 12-11-2006 03:27 AM

In loving memory of Lars...

I bump this thread

Manowar 12-11-2006 08:02 AM

old ass thread

TheSwed 12-11-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar (Post 11505486)
old ass thread

but still the fact :disgust

will76 12-11-2006 02:48 PM

This thread catching a little fire today.

Tryme 12-11-2006 08:27 PM

shit lets bump this

MaddCaz 12-11-2006 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11071558)
a few years ago - it was perfectly legal to own slaves.


was that right?

:error :helpme :disgust

Daruma 12-11-2006 09:18 PM

he's been missing for a few days - but my informant found out where he's hiding :1orglaugh

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/cr...s/mp3-0028.jpg

Quickdraw 02-19-2007 01:38 PM

this needs a bump so the uninformed can see what AFF thinks about them

scottybuzz 02-19-2007 02:39 PM

ok strange as.

Azoy? 03-03-2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11071641)
I wouldn't care if company A was stealing from company B, if they didn't have any affiliates.

But when A & B get into a pissing war, the affiliates are the ones that lose. Not fair to the people who make the money.

Hell personally, when a company has THOUSANDS of affiliates why are they even advertising in the first place, why are they competiting with their affiliates. I could understand if a company had a couple hundred affiliates. I know if I had a company that made millions and had thousands of affiliates I wouldn;t be buying an ads myself. Where can that company advertise that his affiliates are already not advertising? Everywhere they buy ads they are competiting with their affiliates. It's not like they dont make a ton of off all the branding that affiliates are doing for them or all the type in traffic they get. I am not just talking about AFF either, all big companies. It would piss me off if i go to buy ad words and the COMPANY has the spot above me,

i bet you they buy ads on google adwords as well as other sites and while it may seem like the traffic is going to an affiliate, who says that they didn't create an affiliate account that feeds the internal treasury just to cover the fact they are sending traffic to them selfs.
it is what it is and nothing we can really do about it except if you don't like it don't send traffic to them and find someone else as a sponsor for your dating sites traffic.
otherwise, if you sending aff your traffic cause they are making you more money then other dating sites shut up, eat, drink, fuck and be merry.

will76 03-08-2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 12009080)
i bet you they buy ads on google adwords as well as other sites and while it may seem like the traffic is going to an affiliate, who says that they didn't create an affiliate account that feeds the internal treasury just to cover the fact they are sending traffic to them selfs.
it is what it is and nothing we can really do about it except if you don't like it don't send traffic to them and find someone else as a sponsor for your dating sites traffic.
otherwise, if you sending aff your traffic cause they are making you more money then other dating sites shut up, eat, drink, fuck and be merry.

I am sure some affiliate companies use their own aff codes for ads, if nothing else so they can track how well the ad does. It is also good for deniability if someone catches them doing something shaddy they can always blame it on the affiliate.

If I had to make a little less and go with someone who wasn't shaddy I would. Supporting spyware is going to ruin the whole industry and hurt us all including themselves. How can anyone support them ?

Quickdraw 03-08-2007 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12038795)
...
If I had to make a little less and go with someone who wasn't shaddy I would. Supporting spyware is going to ruin the whole industry and hurt us all including themselves. How can anyone support them ?

Good question. Something to do with 'birds of a feather'...

VicD 03-08-2007 07:01 AM

Not good for AFF business this whole Z**** shit

Klen 03-08-2007 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12038795)
I am sure some affiliate companies use their own aff codes for ads, if nothing else so they can track how well the ad does. It is also good for deniability if someone catches them doing something shaddy they can always blame it on the affiliate.

If I had to make a little less and go with someone who wasn't shaddy I would. Supporting spyware is going to ruin the whole industry and hurt us all including themselves. How can anyone support them ?

Very simple,money is money,it doesnt matter which way is used to get it.

jayeff 03-08-2007 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 12039903)
Very simple,money is money,it doesnt matter which way is used to get it.

Not true. Precisely because a dollar is worth exactly a dollar, it costs you exactly nothing to care how you come by one.

The damage starts within the company which does not maintain a high standard of business practises. Its employees see the example set by the company and follow its lead. It would not be human nature to do otherwise. In this particular context you can extend that to the company's affiliates. Somewhere down the line that translates into additional costs via theft, fraud and the like.

Some of those affiliates are themselves sponsors. For example, I noticed a couple of days ago that a Silver Cash exit console goes to AFF. That sends out a negative message to their employees and affiliates.

In fact, the major issue with AFF, cams.com, SexSearch and other large operations which work with and/or tolerate scumware, file-swapping sites and so on, is the message they are sending to the whole industry. Even those who profit from Zango must recognize they have crossed the line of legitimate competition and basically their activities are telling everyone that is okay.

Which is about as short-sighted as it is possible to get, because while you may be holding a gun on someone today, only a fool tells himself the day will never come that the gun is pointed at him. The reality that instability ultimately damages everyone, is why every industry quickly moves out of the "wild west" phase.

That transition is already under way. If AFF and the others involved with Zango don't want to end up as footnotes in this industry's history, they will have to bow to that inevitability within the next few years. When they try to accomplish that about-face, then they will count the real cost of their current activities.

Quickdraw 03-14-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 12040022)
...
That transition is already under way. If AFF and the others involved with Zango don't want to end up as footnotes in this industry's history, they will have to bow to that inevitability within the next few years. When they try to accomplish that about-face, then they will count the real cost of their current activities.

I believe the webmasters that still promote them will be whining about their funds being locked up before AFF decides not to screw the webmasters that helped them become who they are.

TheSenator 03-14-2007 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 12040022)
Not true. Precisely because a dollar is worth exactly a dollar, it costs you exactly nothing to care how you come by one.

The damage starts within the company which does not maintain a high standard of business practises. Its employees see the example set by the company and follow its lead. It would not be human nature to do otherwise. In this particular context you can extend that to the company's affiliates. Somewhere down the line that translates into additional costs via theft, fraud and the like.

Some of those affiliates are themselves sponsors. For example, I noticed a couple of days ago that a Silver Cash exit console goes to AFF. That sends out a negative message to their employees and affiliates.

In fact, the major issue with AFF, cams.com, SexSearch and other large operations which work with and/or tolerate scumware, file-swapping sites and so on, is the message they are sending to the whole industry. Even those who profit from Zango must recognize they have crossed the line of legitimate competition and basically their activities are telling everyone that is okay.

Which is about as short-sighted as it is possible to get, because while you may be holding a gun on someone today, only a fool tells himself the day will never come that the gun is pointed at him. The reality that instability ultimately damages everyone, is why every industry quickly moves out of the "wild west" phase.

That transition is already under way. If AFF and the others involved with Zango don't want to end up as footnotes in this industry's history, they will have to bow to that inevitability within the next few years. When they try to accomplish that about-face, then they will count the real cost of their current activities.


Well said...

tony286 03-14-2007 07:29 PM

I thought maybe lars came back to do the right thing guess not lol

spacedog 03-14-2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12079523)
I thought maybe lars came back to do the right thing guess not lol

Look at all the idiots in their contest threads?

As long as there's newbie idiots, I don't think they give a fuck & would continue using spyware/adware traffic hijacking sales stealing methods.

candyflip 03-14-2007 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 12079672)
Look at all the idiots in their contest threads?

As long as there's newbie idiots, I don't think they give a fuck & would continue using spyware/adware traffic hijacking sales stealing methods.

Those threads consists of posts from names I've never seen or heard and the AFF lackeys. I got a good laugh clicking through the newest one a bit earlier.

will76 03-14-2007 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 12080021)
Those threads consists of posts from names I've never seen or heard and the AFF lackeys. I got a good laugh clicking through the newest one a bit earlier.

It seems like more than half the post in their threads are from AFF employees.


It really doesn't make sense. The contest threads cater to the people who likely don't make any sales. Think about it. If you waste your time trying to win $50, A. You musn't make a lot of money if you are worried about $50, B. If you wasting time doing that I doubt you are spending much developing you r business.

Sure they might get 100 people to signup from a contest thread but I bet 99 of them never send 1 signup and the 1 person that does will likely never produce more in sales than what they paid for in prizes for that contest.

Doesn't make sense.

It is funny when the AFF employees win, they post so much they win their own contests.

Andrew must have layed the hammer down and told the whole crew, you do not reply to any spyware,stolen content, password sites, etc... post in contest threads and that is it. And it looks like he took Lars' keywboard away.

pocketkangaroo 03-14-2007 11:15 PM

Contest threads are not a good judge of anything. They are basically just a cheap way to buy a sticky for the month.

Pleasurepays 03-14-2007 11:25 PM

here is a bump for "looking into it" as affiliates get robbed.

will76 03-14-2007 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12080188)
Contest threads are not a good judge of anything. They are basically just a cheap way to buy a sticky for the month.

True... but even their contest falls off the front page. :1orglaugh


Now this thread on the other hand, we should keep this as a sticky for the rest of the year.

Quickdraw 03-15-2007 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12079523)
I thought maybe lars came back to do the right thing guess not lol

Whether they ever do the right thing or not, I don't see how they can ever be trusted.

Quickdraw 03-15-2007 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GooSearch (Post 11071576)
can't blame him,,, when i worked doing traffic for several big name sex toy comapnies .. we used 180 solutions at the time.. they requested competition urls and search strings.. i found when they got the deep pockets the companies just bid over everyone to keep on top...my 2cents

I know Xandria and Somethingsexyplanet steal traffic with this specific software now. Who did you use to work for?

tranza 03-15-2007 07:19 AM

Damn, how did I miss this thread?!

Lars actually admitted he used adware traffic?


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