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Pete-KT 10-13-2006 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 11071907)
.... CLEAN UP PETE-KT!!!
whats that supposed to mean?

poisson 10-13-2006 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 11071914)
Ah, this thread is a great read.

Good job, Lars. You just added your program onto my personal blacklist of programs that I'll never fly an ad for as long as I'm around. There is no legit reason for supporting spam, adware, spyware or any of this other crap, and certainly no excuse for buying your affiliate's traffic on the cheap through the back door. And yeah, its legal. All kinds of unethical things are legal, dosent mean they should be done.

Sometimes, I wonder if there is any money at all left in this whole affiliate/program model. It seems like anymore the affiliate does all the work and the program does everything they can to fuck the affiliate out of thier megar earnings (shaving, slow payments, bankruptcy, the shit described here) and at the end of the day you have done one helluva lot of work to earn a few peanuts.
Like if every sponsors should put an investigator on every hit they purchase.

Come on grow up.

GonZo 10-13-2006 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11071924)
whats that supposed to mean?

Im helping FREE PETE KT's NOSE!!!

Dont worry its on me...gratis!

Pleasurepays 10-13-2006 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 11071907)
Oh Im serious Lars. I have much respect for your purple pimp hat!

Dont worry Ill be posting a thread on my board too so that we can all help fight the opression and FREE LEGENDARY LARS!!!

And in light of recent posts in this thread we will be taking additional donations to buy Pete some nice hankies so he can clean up his nose too!

FREE LEGENDARY LARS .... CLEAN UP PETE-KT!!!
haha.. this biz is about smoke, mirrors, posturing and fake wealth. if you busted these guys drugging and raping a 10 year old boy, with Osama bin Laden holding the video camera, 3 editors preparing footage for distribution, 3 suitcase nuclear bombs in the room with the rest of the crew standing in the background, screaming "death to infidels" while shooting old people in the face - there would still be no shortage of people saying "hey man, i like them, real standup guys for sure"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Pete-KT 10-13-2006 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 11071954)
Im helping FREE PETE KT's NOSE!!!

Dont worry its on me...gratis!
your a crackhead you know that

Mr Pheer 10-13-2006 10:47 PM
All I have to say is that this really wouldnt bother me, EXCEPT that I have an exclusitivity contract with AFF that I cant advertise other dating sites. So yes it pretty much pisses me off that these ads can pop up and have the potential of taking a sale from me when I'm not allowed to send a sale away from AFF.

minusonebit 10-13-2006 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by poisson (Post 11071940)
Like if every sponsors should put an investigator on every hit they purchase.

Come on grow up.
Of course not, but once they know what is going on, continuing to support it (yes, buying is supporting) takes away all plausable deniability.

GonZo 10-13-2006 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11071963)
your a crackhead you know that

Aww is that anyway to talk to a guy trying to help you out?

poisson 10-13-2006 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 11071966)
Of course not, but once they know what is going on, continuing to support it (yes, buying is supporting) takes away all plausable deniability.
What Lars said, i s that they wont buy there anymore.

Why would you stop sending them some business? They are the second or third that made an official statemnt.

Edit: Re-reading, i'm no t seing it. :Oh crap

GonZo 10-13-2006 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11071960)
haha.. this biz is about smoke, mirrors, posturing and fake wealth. if you busted these guys drugging and raping a 10 year old boy, with Osama bin Laden holding the video camera, 3 editors preparing footage for distribution, 3 suitcase nuclear bombs in the room with the rest of the crew standing in the background, screaming "death to infidels" while shooting old people in the face - there would still be no shortage of people saying "hey man, i like them, real standup guys for sure"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
You know all that matters to some is whos buying the next round at a show...

me Id rather be a crackhead than a crack kisser.

Pete-KT 10-13-2006 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 11071980)
Aww is that anyway to talk to a guy trying to help you out?

I can talk anyway I want its a free world isnt it?

GonZo 10-13-2006 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11071995)
I can talk anyway I want its a free world isnt it?
Where I live it is.

Pete-KT 10-13-2006 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 11072008)
Where I live it is.
Must be the good US of A ha ;) anyways goodnight Gonzo

GonZo 10-13-2006 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11072024)
Must be the good US of A ha ;) anyways goodnight Gonzo
BUt you havent said if you will help us FREE LEGENDARY LARS!!! from the people that are forcing him to do this horrible things...

or were you just working a traffic angle?

Pleasurepays 10-13-2006 11:07 PM
in all seriousness.... i can sympathize with all of this. i used to rob banks because other people were robbing banks. i was forced into it. well, some people called it "armed robbery". i called it "agressive withdrawal in a pre-emptive measure to protect my financial position".

Nookster 10-13-2006 11:11 PM
I will now take this oportune moment to pull all aff and related links and halt all promotions. Thank you for clearing that up. :2 cents:

Xenophage 10-13-2006 11:12 PM
hot hot hot

poisson 10-13-2006 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11072161)
hot hot hot
Lars can i buy your sig for a month?

Xenophage 10-13-2006 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by poisson (Post 11072177)
Lars can i buy your sig for a month?
That would cost a lot :) For like $50K you can buy my sig but I have tyo approve of the ad :)

poisson 10-13-2006 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11072193)
That would cost a lot :) For like $50K you can buy my sig but I have tyo approve of the ad :)
Name a price.

Jace 10-13-2006 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by poisson (Post 11072204)
Name a price.
he already did

datatank 10-13-2006 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11071841)
Lars got a minute to talk about some traffic trades?

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Sergy or Larry can you please ICQ me about my adwords account

poisson 10-13-2006 11:23 PM
And how much for the sig? I mean not for yo to approve it first?

Pete-KT 10-13-2006 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by datatank (Post 11072253)
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Sergy or Larry can you please ICQ me about my adwords account

sorry my icq was already answered now you have to wait till monday

Xenophage 10-13-2006 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by datatank (Post 11072253)
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Sergy or Larry can you please ICQ me about my adwords account
I actually did hit him up on ICQ and a funny story I used to deal with David Filo of yahoo to get my submissions listed there :) in 1994 on akebono.stanford.edu for those of you who dont know that was yahoo before they got yahoo.com

Xenophage 10-13-2006 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by poisson (Post 11072267)
And how much for the sig? I mean not for yo to approve it first?


Like I said $50,000 paid up front and I get to approve the ad.

poisson 10-13-2006 11:29 PM
I'm asking,,, how much for you not to approve it first. "Carte blanche"

Xenophage 10-13-2006 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by poisson (Post 11072312)
I'm asking,,, how much for you not to approve it first. "Carte blanche"
Wouldnt do it ok ok for like 10 million I might but no one would pay that so its a moot point

GonZo 10-13-2006 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11072281)
I actually did hit him up on ICQ and a funny story I used to deal with David Filo of yahoo to get my submissions listed there :) in 1994 on akebono.stanford.edu for those of you who dont know that was yahoo before they got yahoo.com
I KNEW IT!!!
Those fuckers from Yahoo are responsible!

Lars you should have never trusted them just because they had a cool mailing list with all the great sites on the cyberweb!

How can we get back at them? We have to FREE you from Adware!

TampaToker 10-13-2006 11:35 PM
Nice i just pulled my aff links and cams.com links and switched to dating gold. So i click a link on my site and sure enough look at this shit. Now i cant even send traffic to datinggold now :mad: Click the pic twice...........

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6486/targetedef6.jpg

poisson 10-13-2006 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11072334)
Wouldnt do it ok ok for like 10 million I might but no one would pay that so its a moot point
10 MILLION, that's not a fair asking price for your sig on gfy.

Seriously... Money on the table. For how much would you sale your gfy reputation for1 little month?

datatank 10-13-2006 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11072274)
sorry my icq was already answered now you have to wait till monday
Larry logged off?
I think Sergey is on invisible dude

KrisKross 10-13-2006 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11071505)
AdultFriendFinder from time to time as a small part of its advertising budget places ad buys with companies which some people might call ?adware?. Adware is software that is installed on a user?s computer with notice and consent by the user. In some instances such adware will use contextual ads - for example it may scan web pages for references to certain keywords and then pop up relevant ads from its advertisers. Typical keywords for AdultFriendFinder may include ?dating? and ?friend?. One of the motivating factors in AdultFriendFinder placing such adware ads is to effectively compete in the online dating marketplace - namely if AdultFriendFinder does not place such ads our competitors will make deals with the adware companies to place such ads to our detriment.

It has come to our attention that some affiliates are unhappy about some uncommon and unintended side effects of adware advertising ? in some instances the adware will scan a web page and pop up an ?in context? AdultFriendFinder ad in a browser window next to an affiliate?s ad for AdultFriendFinder in another browser window. This scenario certainly makes us uncomfortable and creates a catch-22 for us ? if we stop buying the contextual adware ads our competitors? sites will pop up and we may lose sales and if we keep buying adware ads we may find from time to time our ads will pop up near our affiliate?s ads for our sites.

While it is perfectly legal for us to place ads with internet software providers like adware companies, specialized browser providers, and search engines that place our ads near our affiliates ads (for example this happens often with keyword buys on search engines) this notion of the adware ad ?collisions? that has recently been raised does make us feel somewhat uncomfortable ? in other words we find ourselves sympathetic with those who have not been happy with this bizarre result.

So we decided to look further into the adware issue. While we are at least partially at the mercy of the programmatic techniques of the given adware companies we are already exploring and experimenting with technology solutions to try to figure out ways to reduce the number of ?adware collisions?. Our primary method of tracking affiliate traffic is not by using cookies (as has been wrongly suggested on some board postings) but rather by coded URLs ? this may have to change. Suffice it to say that for now we appreciate the comments that have been made on the boards to date by our affiliates (yes even the adverse ones) and we will attempt to address this unforeseen consequence of adware ad buys in the near future. If AdultFriendFinder affiliates have any comments or proposed solutions you may e-mail me at lars at legendarylars.com
While I understand and appreciate your position, what you're doing with this post is essentially attempting to justify stealing from your own affiliates.

Rochard 10-13-2006 11:54 PM
Is it not possible that Lars bought traffic from a source without knowing exactly where the traffic is coming from? And now that he's shut it off he can't stop this from happening?

Furious_Female 10-13-2006 11:57 PM
It seems like Zango and companies alike are basically for program/site owners to compete with each other. They create the battlefied and surfers/affiliates get killed in the war.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-13-2006 11:59 PM
thanks for the post lars....

KrisKross 10-14-2006 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11072456)
Is it not possible that Lars bought traffic from a source without knowing exactly where the traffic is coming from? And now that he's shut it off he can't stop this from happening?
If that was the case, why wouldn't he have said so? The wording of his post suggests that not only was he well aware of the source, he hasn't discontinued using the source.

His post boils down to "We buy traffic from adware companies so that our competitors don't. We're aware that a side effect of these traffic buys is that we end up stealing sales from our affiliates. We're looking into solutions for this."

TampaToker 10-14-2006 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11072456)
Is it not possible that Lars bought traffic from a source without knowing exactly where the traffic is coming from? And now that he's shut it off he can't stop this from happening?

They can shut it off any time they want

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4130/backendxm7.jpg

XPays 10-14-2006 12:08 AM
One interesting thing in this thread is the cookie talk.

if webmasters really want to see their sales drop- they can use programs that do not hardcode their links. be careful what you wish for- revolving methods around cookies is a smokescreen. keep a year or lifetime cookie- whatever, sales still are not going to track accurately because cookies are good for a lot of things- but not for core affiliate tracking.

fetishblog 10-14-2006 12:28 AM
Tracking anything via cookies is so 1995. Why not use sessions or URL tracking rather then cookies and be done with this whole mess?

Xenophage 10-14-2006 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11072695)
Tracking anything via cookies is so 1995. Why not use sessions or URL tracking rather then cookies and be done with this whole mess?
Umm thats what we do URL tracking

TrafficHog 10-14-2006 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11072836)
Umm thats what we do URL tracking
It appears that Will76's biggest point of all this is about cookie tracking and no one is using cookies alone to track sales. Will76 has some learing to do and his intelligence is very questionable because of his false accusations. In another thread someone posted webpower being promoting as a URL in Zango. Will76... When will that affiliate URL be banned? It appears to still be active and debunking EVERYTHING your opinionating about.

teomaxxx 10-14-2006 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11071960)
haha.. this biz is about smoke, mirrors, posturing and fake wealth. if you busted these guys drugging and raping a 10 year old boy, with Osama bin Laden holding the video camera, 3 editors preparing footage for distribution, 3 suitcase nuclear bombs in the room with the rest of the crew standing in the background, screaming "death to infidels" while shooting old people in the face - there would still be no shortage of people saying "hey man, i like them, real standup guys for sure"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
great description of gfy boys :1orglaugh

will76 10-14-2006 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TrafficHog (Post 11072874)
It appears that Will76's biggest point of all this is about cookie tracking and no one is using cookies alone to track sales. Will76 has some learing to do and his intelligence is very questionable because of his false accusations. In another thread someone posted webpower being promoting as a URL in Zango. Will76... When will that affiliate URL be banned? It appears to still be active and debunking EVERYTHING your opinionating about.
Funny you are the only one saying this stuff. Where are my accusations false ?

cookies being over written is just part of the problem. So what if I am using session tracking and my visitor clicks a link on my site to Ifriends signup page. Let's say they are using session tracking, well the person on zango has purchased the keyword ifriends.com so as soon as my page comes up the person buying that keyword pops up his signup page with his session tracking in it over mine. Who makes the sale ? so this problem is not just with cookies.

Cookies are easier to mess with because they could overwrite your cookies without popping up a page if they wanted to. For session tracking all they have to do is pop up their page over yours and it servers the same purpose. Most of the surfers will not even know that it wasn;t you causing that page to come up, they will think that is the one they clicked to see in the first place. The popup comes up real fast.

I don't know who's fake nick you are but it is obvious you are a fake nick, or one of those " buddies" that kept telling DH to post retarded comments here. Keep up your hate, all you are doing is keep giving me an oppertunity to make you look stupid with your post.:thumbsup

If you see clickcash affiliates doing this report them, they will be banned.

Machete_ 10-14-2006 02:27 AM
"Adware is software that is installed on a user?s computer with notice and consent by the user"

who do you thing you are fooling with that?

Brujah 10-14-2006 02:27 AM
Where's the SexSearch thread? Have they responded?

ilsoph 10-14-2006 02:28 AM
until we see legislation, there's no easy or obvious solution..

imo there's a bandaid fix which requires profiling how affiliate sales are generated... the problem is piggyback referral info that supercedes the original referrer.. as the merchant you have the ability to identify this behaviour... the hard part is determining proportions (ie, legitimate elapse time for same referral, etc.).. for that i suggest you take the CRA\IRS's approach: go for the obvious big fish..

while not an ideal solution.. there will be some that slip through the cracks, not to mention another added operating expense... but never forget that respect and goodwill go a long way..

good luck.

rigrunner 10-14-2006 02:47 AM
can't you get camsdotcom trademarked or something so no assholes can bid on it?

elasticatedman 10-14-2006 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 11072350)
Nice i just pulled my aff links and cams.com links and switched to dating gold. So i click a link on my site and sure enough look at this shit. Now i cant even send traffic to datinggold now :mad: Click the pic twice...........
It's like a shark feeding-frenzy, with the affiliate's referral-link acting as the rubby dubby.

Clearly, ethical affiliates and sponsors are on a hiding to nothing.

SpeakEasy 10-14-2006 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11071589)
I would not say support I would more say forced into read this
You are NOT being forced into supporting and using adware? You are CHOOSING to do it on your own free will. This is sickening to hear. Basically you are a slimey greedy pig and your actions are hrting the entire adult community in so many ways it's unreal.:2 cents:


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