sorry Cory. I respect you 100% as I think you know. Very reasonable response, not going to intrude any further.

Good luck.

If you want to trade some traffic/cross sell hit me up.

exactly like i said, nothing new, or remotely innovative

better to send your traffic right to the source, that way he cant make money off ya

Is every program out there required to re-invent the wheel? Last time I checked there were well over 500 affiliate programs out there, did they all break new ground? Go rag on some of them.

nice contest!

Congrats on the new launch, Ron. :-)

I could add on to your point, but the day is really busy.

Over the past couple of years, yes, programs have done things that are new. The many companies that offer the galleries Ron didn't even know were out there is just one example. RSS feeds, exclusive content, more REAL solo girl sites, different fetishes, etc.

Honestly I've not seen a "new" full program come out lately with older non-exclusive content.

well not every 500 of them is 12clicks claiming to reinvent the wheel with his comeback is it?

its his arrogance that makes people critic his words and his arrogance that proved his program today being nothing more then reselling content with a new frontend.

its laugable at least and i dont care remotely, but its funny to watch nonetheless.

don't you have a bridge to haunt?

you're clueless about what you think you know.

can I see your PPS program? I'm sure we can all learn from it.

Ron stated their hosted gallery solution was the first (To his knowledge) under NATS, and I have personally not heard of any NATS programs offering this either. Sure, there may be other programs doing it, but not too many have altered the way NATS functions out of the box.

I don't pretend to know what your agenda is, but you appear to definitely have one in this case. Shouldn't you be investing your time in more worthwhile tasks?

12clicks doesn't need to re-invent anything to be successful, that's the difference between good marketing and a total lack thereof.

no, you don't care. its just what, your 6th post about what you don't care about?:1orglaugh

with the help of my friends, instead of starting off with only my own content and having the small members areas you see with everyone else opening up a program, I open with one of the largest back ends on day one.

some people will understand, some will be like you.:thumbsup

Someone reselling content and backends has been done over and over and over, you were the one bragging, not me

you have been called out a lot in this topic but never responded

Pornopushers and I think it's safe to say that was a total bust. But friends are more important than anything else. 12clicks has more friends with traffic than RogerV. I think people are just ragging on him in this thread because 12clicks is soliciting traffic from the everyday webmasters by providing tools for them but this is clearly a program designed for paysite owners who use cross sales.

7th post about something you don't care about.

so you're not going to show us your PPS program?
didn't think so.

I make people money, you keep bumping my thread to the top. we both do what we're good at.:thumbsup

I'm not the only one asking these questions - just more are in the buisness more than I am and therefore more worried about their "reputation" if they ask the questions :thumbsup

I'm merely asking them. They seem pretty legit questions to me, no? Personally I think they are and the avoidance of answering them, the changing of the lolita domains, the changing of the 2257, etc. the "new and improved program" that looks like most 1990's programs just smells funny to me.

Yeah, I was always the one who asked all the questions in school too. :winkwink:

rhizome - I agree - Ron and Robert's connections with the "old gang" will do the most to bring in traffic.

not needed, mine was build and sold years ago, and i still live from it easily :)
bump for you topic though, and goodluck with your program.

smart, but not exactly right.
I've bought traffic from everyday webmasters longer than anyone here I can think of.
The trick is to make them money. There's a small handful who want to rag for their own reasons but at the end of the day, I've been making very small to very large webmasters money for almost 10 years in both mainstream and adult.
The trick to doing that is to have your money making ducks in a row. its not about any of the things the negative trolls are talking about. If they knew what I knew, they'd be running a program, not trolling the boards

thats awesome , the site looks good! :thumbsup

BTW, per 12Clicks, I'm eligible to get SSI, so I really don't have to do anything worthwhile to earn apparently thousands of dollars a month ;)

Plus I've been doing homework and playing Prosper all day :)

thanks marketsmart. for a second there the businessman to troll quotient was way out of wack.:thumbsup

Good luck to everyone

There are a lot of people with a lot of traffic who don't run their own programs. Careful which bridges you might burn when you try to one up yourself.

Curious Clicks do you go to the mainstream affiliate convention they have, thinking about going to the eastern one in 2007. So Clicks are you going to read the Klixxx article about the wife and I when you get the issue? :)

It's about time :) Welcome back, Ron!

Are you talking about Ad-Tech?

If so, that show is outstanding. I went to San Fran and plan to do that one again.

I've been to a few in NY. they're worth the effort if you're involved in mainstream. lots of contacts. A little crowded and overwhelming at times.

My Klixx mags seem to come intermittently. is it online or only print?

nice work 12..... should do great, i will add you to my sites

I love the tours.

Looks great man. Will sign up a.s.a.p.

Damn, Ron - I hate to beat a dead horse, but seriously, for being in this business as long as you have, how can you have so many mistakes on simple situations that others have pointed out, plus this?

http://join.12xbigcocks.com/signup/s...MDowOjU&step=2
"You will be discreetly billed by "SIaccess.net""

Then the support link:
http://billingservices.com/
"If you reached this site because you have a charge on your credit card statement from billingservices.com"

Hell, you should put me on payroll. I pointed out your lolita urls, you got rid of those, I pointed out that you had John Scorick (sic) as your custodian of records, and now this.

Living on SSI is tough. Please send cash.

Congrats, looking good.

its like making money, out of your ASS

hooray for ANOTHER program made from non-exclusive content!!!

hooray for this gif!

http://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gifhttp://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gifhttp://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gif
http://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gifhttp://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gifhttp://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gif
http://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gifhttp://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gifhttp://www.sixblack.com/images/gfy/WTFMONKEY.gif

HAHAHAHA

dude, don't let bitter trolls confuse you. We opened our doors with thousands of movies. can you open a site with thousands of movies all exclusive?
No.
My back end is larger than almost anyones. We're developing content and already have some exclusive stuff.

I'm not sure any other new program could boast that.

Just because I ignore trolls doesn't mean they're right, it just means they aren't worthy of my time. :winkwink:

I wouldn't promote a 12clicks program even if it'd pay $100 per signup.

you're gonna' love the gay one! :winkwink:

Dont think ive posted in here in Over 2 fuckin years but I have to say congrates to the tall ass mofo.

Fuckin 3 years later 12clicks rolls out the program congrates to you sir click.

I must go cant stay here long or ill get the urge to start a porn site and make a shit load of money. :winkwink:


If any of you will be in fl for the big boat show this upcoming week hit me up on icq. I will be fishing sword fish every night next week and at the boat show during the day.

Peace out and congrates to fuckin 12clicks and crew.

damn, I'm not sure I'll over come that.:Oh crap

I still haven't gotten the answer if we are paid on sales made from the spyware that gets installed on the surfer's computer.

OK, here's another mistake (geeze). You don't post on a non-GFY board that they must "obey all GFY contest rules", lol.

And I love this - we can screw you over, but you can't say anothing about it:

12clicksCash reserves the right to terminate the account of any affiliate who publicly posts derogatory and or slanderous statements about 12clicksCash, its subsidiaries or officers. 12clicksCash vigorously defends itself against false and slanderous statements.

Honestly, be glad you have some old friends in the biz willing to throw you some bones. That's where you'll make your money.

jesus, is 12clickscash.com the slowest loading site out there? it has been crawling all day

I will give you three choices...

1. Prove it
2. retract your statement and apologize
3. be bannned

You pick

i see nothing special here, sites have no originality, content looks lame.

Want to license our plugins for your amateur sites?

12clicksCash reserves the right to terminate the account of any affiliate who publicly posts derogatory and or slanderous statements about 12clicksCash, its subsidiaries or officers. 12clicksCash vigorously defends itself against false and slanderous statements.

That statement above alone killed it for me. If I have a problem and can't get ahold of support then come to the boards and say boy blah blah support sucks then get canned. No thank you.

should've done exclusive content and catchy site names. the sites are no different than a lot of the garbage already out there.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Prove what specifically?

Anyways google is your friend. You do your own damned research

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&b tnG=Search

Why? Are we a bit sensitive?

Who died and made you mod? If/When Lensman asks me to reatract my statement I will.