[QUOTE=TheSwed;11154734]zango.com is not suppose to increase like zangocash.com does.

Here is the funniest thing. hornymatches.com is the number #1 bidder on aff and a lot of other big dating sites. Go look at their alexa graph. It looks exactly like the zangocash.com one ;)

Damn, this was some great marketing PR done by Will76. That's a lot of exposure.

I know AFF prefers to call it "occasional colusions with affiliates" or something to that affect.

So what do you call it when someone who is promoting AFF has a surfer with zango on his computer click the link on their site that goes to AFF, and an AFF page pops up over the AFF affiliates page. What in the hell do you call that?

What do you call it when I am promoting ifriends and someone with zango on their pc clicks the link on MY FUCKING WEBSITE and AFF shit pops up over my ifriends page. YOu are not stealing??? what are you doing, borrowing my fucking traffic ?

I can't believe you are going to make comments like this and stupid threads like this.

We are all sheep, you the man, do what you want to do, we are retards if we can't see it your way, oh and here is the change in my pocket thank you kind sir I will carry on now.

If you think Zango is "adware" then you are the biggest sheep of all believing zango's shit. I guess 1/2 the people who have zango on their pcs that say they don't know how it got there must have " added it " intentionally.

oh i get it...

We are sheep because you were singled out for using "adware" but a lot of other sites were not.

So you are basically saying, why stop using me because everyone else is doing it. Or if you are not going to stop using them, then would you stop using me?

Since netflix doesn't post here and i doubt anyone advertises for them, what would be the point for us to bash netflix or any travel site ?

You however post here, your company runs serveral contest and advertisements here, and a lot of people here promote you company. And you are in adult, which all of us are. So it is only logical you will receive more heat HERE then netflix and travel sites would receive HERE.

baaaaah!

Did I hear Sheep ???

http://www.pointernet.pds.hu/kutya/b...collie_102.jpg

if its such a small percentage how is zango making millions per year? and why are program owners unwilling to give up the supposidly small income stream despite the bad name being affiliated with such a company gives them? it just doesn't add up.

Congrats.. You've now become pimpdog..

I don't follow the logic.

You are soooooooooooooo worried about losing sales to sexsearch. You claim you would lose "x" money to sexsearch if you stopped using "adware :1orglaugh ". So you lose say "x".

To help try to improve the image of AFF (and lure the sheep back) you will pay "x" more in signups to people.

So you still lose money. The money you make from zango you need to pay out in higher comissions to cover damage control.

Why not just stop doing business with zango in the first place and keep comissions where they are ? you still basically net the same. You claim you are the best and have the highest payouts, so no need to pay more. You would make a lot more in the long run because you wouldn't be losing affiliates because of your association with "adware :1orglaugh ". And you would be doing the fucking right thing by helping to fight the problem instead of being a part of the problem, wouldn't that be nice, to do the right thing. We know AFF makes over 100million a year, you have a ton of money, wouldn't it be nice to have something that money can't buy, Integrity? and to be able to go to bed at night knowing you are not fucking people. All for the cost of a couple pennies (if that) compared to what you make. :2 cents:

I could almost sympothize with the person (almost) who has nothing and would do something shady to put food on the table. But i have not ounce of sympothy for the person who already has millions who is doing something shaddy so he can buy another trophy car, or whatever. That's just greed.

I would like to introduce Zango according to google,lol http://www.natcf.org/minpics/Ram%20Zango.jpg

p.s. i outsource my thinking to my myspace top 8 friends

Targeting pop up pages that will pop up over your affiliates with your pop up page to AFF. So your affiliates traffic will be diverted to your page when they signup and you affiliate will not get credit for the sale.

Targeting other sites that many people here advertise so your popup will come up come up on top of the page we are trying to send our paid traffic to.

Buying popups is when you buy traffic from sites that generate their own traffic and they sell pop up pages off of their own site. These sites generated the traffic and have the right tosell it.

THE PERSON IS LEAVING THE SITE AND A POP UP COMES UP. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS POPING UP A PAGE OVER MINE WHEN SOMEONE IS TRYING TO GO TO THE SIGNUP PAGE OF THE SITE I AM ADVERTISING.

Fuck you, its not the same.

You started off trying to justify it, then you use the defense everyone else is doing it, then you try to insult everyone who thinks it is bad, now you are throwing out the you can't stand it because we make so much money.

you just became an asshole in my book. getting pretty close to the pimpdog status imo.

Not according to Zango, who said they contacted AFF and told them to stop setting their cookies over their affiliates cookies....

So who do we believe ? Lieing Scumware company, or greedy sponsor who is buying "pop ups" from scumware.

You missed the posts where he was running around trying to say how low the percentage was of people with Zango, trying to imply it wasn't really effecting anyone.. He wants us to think it's a non-issue but if it truly was a non-issue they wouldn't be buying the ad spots. What a fucking moron.

sooo using this same logic it would be ok for AFF to shave if it puts it on page 10 of the TOS. The affiliate should have read it, dumb ass it is his fault now. We have a license to steal and prey on the not so smart people. :Oh crap good business ehtics at it's finest.

The moron is contradicting himself now. Because he goes on and on how he would lose sooooooo much money to sexsearch if he stopped using "adware".

So which is it, too little for us to care about or notice or tooooo much money for you to stop doing it. idiot.

yes there are LAWS. Aff is trademark. There is several case law where trademarks have sued "adware" companies for doing exactly this and won.

I mentioned this to lars several times. He said a lawsuit would be too expensive and not worth it. He has the legal means to stop zango from doing this. But obviously he does not want to stop.

fucking bullshit, 100 million dollar a year company with team of inhouse attornies can't sue to protect their own trademark... " no it's too expensive"

WTF ? nigga please. you must really think we are sheep.

It's because Lars is full of shit.. Yea really think if is was some chump change amount he would want to take this much flack? Besides that we just know about zango, but what other places like this might he be buying traffic that's doing the same thing?

I'm sure it's pretty damn profitable for him to buy traffic from zango and others like it vs paying out the sales to the affiliates whom actually sent the traffic.

But it's all good just do a big payout weekend, give away a laptop or two and sponsor a party and he's all good. He'll be a stand up guy again in no time.

This thread is going to go down in board history as the day a moron (Legendary Liar) Owned himself.:1orglaugh

BUMP! .....

It's a small percentage but we are talking about a small % of the entire Internet and I honestly think a program owners first reason to make a stand against it would be to honor the sheep on the board and get some free PR. Some of the largest and most recognized mainstream and real word companies use or have used Zango. Basically, Zango has been around for a logn time doing exactly what they are doing right now. The only reason people are bitching now is because the sheep are being misled by someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

hahhhaha fucking outsourcing :1orglaugh

funniest quote of the day :warning

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I dont know what Lars does and doesn't do but you guys make me laugh.
You all want the biggest payouts, free hosting , big parties, lots of big prizes and hot models walking around at the shows.That all costs lots of money and there is only so much to go around. Then to get shocked when some skimming might occur. I think for everything to be 100% on the up and up. You would have to be willing to do your own hosting and making $15 a sale recurring.

Yea and the 30 post wonders know all about it..

You don't seriously believe your post count shows your experience and knowledge do you? Hillarious.......

I've never been to a sponsor party and don't ever plan to go to any. I could care less about high payouts but rather high conversions. I've also never used free hosting from any affiliate program.

I take care of myself and don't expect anyone else to do anything for me. What I do expect is legit programs to send my traffic to, that actually convert.

wow.. this thread got intense real fast.

it's almost like aff makes more money from their own traffic buys than they do from affiliates! (gasp).

my honest guess is that they could lose all their affiliate traffic and barely notice it. they dont give a fuck whether everybody is pissed, they just dont want slashdot coverage.

I think you are being naive - it would be too expensive to justify the time and expense. You must be aware that something like this would carry on for months or even years and cost a fortune (remember zango are not some back room operation either).

As I said before why the fuck should Lars be the one to carry the burden of this, because he is the only one to come on GFY and talk about it?

As I said, you are naive - and a little bit full of yourself - if you think it would be a prudent business decision for Lars to spend millions and suffer through a lawsuit.

The real WMs don't want or need all that stuff.. hmmm.. Maybe I should buy some Zango ads for mandysplayhouse, herfirstfatgirl etc. and hijack your sites traffic.. wonder if you'd like that.

there is no excuse for stealing from affiliates. period. there just isn't. there is not one person here who would go to parties, accept higher payouts etc etc etc if they knew with 100% certainty that it was being paid for with joins that are stolen from them. and i dont recall ANYONE begging for 105.00 payouts.

as you can see... when given the choice of 105.00 payouts and being stolen from ... or simply going somewhere else... many are quite willing to go somewhere else. its about fucking time.

i mean really?!?!?! what the fuck? i can't believe someone gets busted robbing affiliates and then basically says "yeah.. so what?" as a defense. thats fucking insanity and totally sums up this business and the people in it. then his employees chime in with more dumb remarks... showing a complete and total lack of concern on any level at all for how people feel about the situation.

and most of you fucking clowns can't figure out why senators and congressmen are calling you scammers, thieves, liars and exploiters of under age kids? take a look around you. take a look at what you accept as defensible behavior.

All I said is to be surprised when it happens when most want the big numbers that are thrown around is crazy. Also free hosting must be a big deal because if it wasnt it wouldnt be offered. Im not saying its right and I dont agree with it but 30 bucks a sign up can only go so far around.

Bingo! Right now they're doing it purely due to the competitors (just watch imlive and cams ping pong back and forth on their huge payouts), for the PR and to get more affiliates which they then treat with disdain and attempt to fleece.

free hosting started out due to cost.. then became a way to attract newbie affiliates.. now it's primarily useful for 2257 issues.

I never said it was right,the pressure to offer bigger and bigger numbers had to come from somewhere. The current system feeds this behavior. Its sad.

Do Myspace, Google, Yahoo, Cingular, Dell and Netflix have affiliate programs?

I'm looking for new ways to get screwed.

I get stolen from already , not traffic but fucking password trading sites and I see major sponsors fucking ads all over the sites. Torrid sites that have full fucking movies. I know what the feeling is like. No one gives a shit and they never will. Sorry but most of the ultra successful are sharks.
Whether its adult or mainstream.

The only way to get the sharks to pay attention is to effect their bottom line.

Great line... now addedt to my sig :)

if you think that can be done more power to you, I used to get crazy but my health was more important and I figured it was a fight I couldnt win. It wouldnt be the first time I was wrong.

It is quite often that competitors feel that way about their competition.

So are you suggesting that we just "whine, complain, and accept it" ???

so says the person with 31 post and using a fake nic. :1orglaugh

I know it can be done, getting it done is the difficult part. I'm doing my part by banning all aff/cams etc. galleries promotions etc. from my sites etc. I used to get really worked up about these sorts of things as well. Now I get worked up "just enough".. but doing nothing will only ensure that it continues.

Who that makes more then 2 sales a day really cares about free stuff. Seriously, you mean i can't have free hosting. Oh man, if you mean i have to give up contest threads and free hosting for you to stop stealing from me, no way. Please continue to steal. I don't want to lose my chance to win a hummer or be post #478 and win $50 or my free hosting.

Most affiliates don't even go to the parties muchless give a shit about them. Most people do not care about any of the shit you mentioned, the ones that do care are the ones that aren't making any money anyway.

if means you have to stop doing all of that crap in order to stop stealing i dont think many people who mind at all.

that's one hell of a good payout :)

naive ? so good business is to not protect your trademark but instead give money to the people are who infringing on it. Yes, (says the naive one) what lars has done here the last 3 weeks has been perfect example "prudent business decissions".

Naive? why trademark something if you are never going to protect it.

BTW, i guess you failed to see the last couple cases that were exactly the same where the "adware" company settled.

Who the fuck you kiddin. How much do you think it is costing AFF because a lot of people don't want to business with them.

BTW, i wont pitty him / AFF for carrying the burden. They choose to carry this burden, they could stop and any time by doing the right thing. No one is forcing him to use "adware", oh wait that's right sexsearch is forcing him to do it. :1orglaugh

greedy assholes would be more accurate.

so basically you do nothing roll over and take it. to sum it up a pussy.

It's your decission on how you handle people stealing from you but please don't come here trying to justify that they do it because all of us want free hosting and parties.

No I said I didn't want to make myself crazy, also Im a very small fish in the big picture. If you guys can make change your gods in my eyes.When I worked in mainstream I ran the affiliate program, my biggest monthly fight was with the ceo who didnt want pay the affiliates what they were owed. Getting them paid was a monthly fight and he would tell me you think Amazon pays their affiliates?? I would argue you dont pay them they dont send traffic,we are screwed and its wrong.I made deals expecting you to do the right thing So I know this is not only a adult problem.

hey how is MAnila treating you? Cheap? Efficient?