Oh yea..I'd say it says a lot about your program.. your posts speak volumes.

1. AFF does business with spyware companies.
2. Lars admits AFF does business with spyware companies (he prefers to call them "adware" companies) such as Zango.
3. People start dropping AFF.
4. Lars tries to do some damage control by calling people names.

There are at least two facts supporting the theory:

1. Newbie surfers are more likely to buy porn, since they don't know where to get it for free online. The same surfers have no experience with spyware and would therefor not now how to remove it. They will probably also only use one browser window at a time - the one on top. Guess who just popped a window on top of the window containing your affiliate id.

2. Why would the sponsor companies continue to use spyware if they weren't making money. Lars said it himself, he is taking something like 0.5% of the traffic and he is making enough off of it to raise payouts more than 1%. It is anyones guess as to how much more he is making off of the surfers he has stolen from us, but it must be substantial for him to act the way he is doing.


It's hard to show some hard data, since only the sponsors supporting spyware would have access to the data and I don't think they are about to give it to us.

I know you what you mean, as i feel the same way.

The company he owns makes over 100 million dollars a year. People need to read that two or three times to let it sink in. But yet they don't want to spend money to protect their trademark on an open shut case. If they sued zango because of trademark infringment the problem would be solved. No one would be able to buy their keywords on zango, no one not even sexsearch. Then they wouldn't have to be "forced" into doing it. :Oh crap The have a team of lawyers working for them already.

This tells me they don't want to stop doing it and the " it cost too much to protect our trademark" is just one more excuse from them why they dont want to stop buying scumware traffic.

It says an idiot is running it.

Get them more traffic. So you think AFF is getting more traffic because of these post. Figures you would, i've heard several times that your program is a Pimpdog owned company, so figures you would think bad press = money.

I love the people who tell you that you are doing something the wrong way but they never have any suggestions of their own on the "right way" to do it. Just as bad as the "told you so" people that are always right because they wait till after something happens to give their opinion on it.

this is 2006 people. life aint so easy for money online anymore. i love it how lars has side stepped you all.

Do zango users more likely to buy porn then non zango users?

Well considering I link to the signup page for my sponsors, my traffic only triggers the zango pop up page when the surfer is going to the signup page, so that quality of traffic is much higher then surfers who hit the front page of my site.

I think they are stealing better quality traffic. Just a little something else to take into consideration. Let's say zango only accounts for 2% of my traffic but if they are taking the highest quality traffic i think it is only logical to figure they are taking more then 2% of my sales.

I guess it boils down to the fact that I want control of my traffic. I don't want anyone to steal/redirect my traffic in any way - even when they think they can justify it by raising their payouts. My traffic is mine - until I choose to send it to someone else.

but it is a pop up page the surfer could always close it :winkwink: :warning :1orglaugh

Lets just hire someone to sit around all day and check sponsor sites for spyware. All they would need is a bunch of cheap computers and some time to learn what to look for. Then we could out all of them and Lars wouldn't feel alone anymore. I bet we could even get some of the straight shooting sponsors to pay for it, in return for some good PR on the page we out the bad guys on. :)

250 factual statements

If they're clicking thru to look at buying a paysite membership etc., then they're already in a motivated state. Thus, if there's a popup offering them something else, that product would get the benifits of all your marketing and get some great conversions.

It has nothing to do with "Zango Users".. It has everything to do with other WMs having motivated the surfer with their own ads and then the theives reap the benifits.

where's Lars?

Maybe he's out stealing a Ferrari.

Not to keep it for himself, but to give to all his hard working sheep, oh I mean affiliates.

You know because he's such a top-notch stand up guy.
:thumbsup

Hes getting money ready to BURN in November!

bump.........

Singups are going UP UP UP!!!

I have been saying this for weeks. Someone with a bit more computer knowledge than me could do it.

I even said I would do it from my office, with my webmasters, and asked Missie/Kellie how to do it and she took two long emails trying to persuade me it was VERY dangerous. Told me installing thses programs crash computers.

Yes Zango is selling traffic from computers they make crash. :upsidedow

Wish she was right, then Zango would not be a problem.

SOMEONE COULD EVEN CHARGE FOR THE SERVICE OF CHECKING SITES.

they're doing it all for you! the hardworking webmaster.

FREE LEGENDARY LARS!!!

has anyone registered that domain yet? could make for some fun times!

LOL do u get the point LR? is google and Yahoo and myspace, plus Cingular phones and dell computers and netflix are adult affiliate programs? did they built there sites through us the Adult webmasters? What made you what u are today LR? Adult webmasters or adawares?

So don't forget why you became rich today, its probably because of us:2 cents:

Cant wait for ur response..



l

Can anyone verify this?

Ofcourse anyone testing this kind of shit should only use a "dedicated testing pc". A system you use for only one thing: testing spyware, visiting suspicious sponsors...

Well, most spyware apps do make computers unstable:
- because of the rootkit technologies some of them use.
- because they try to unistall other spyware apps.
- because they slow down the computer.
...

He probabally won't respond due to the fact that he won the award for the funniest (but saddest) Self Ownage that has ever occured. This guy is truly the scum of the industry, yet he is proud of it and could care less what affect his actions have on anyone but himself. A true scum bag if you ask me.:2 cents:

You know he's still lurking around, so here a bump for the day.:upsidedow

Well i just went to hoes.com and click the AFF geotargeted ad there and a Zango box popped up with Out Personals in it. At the bottom of the site is says " Various Inc. " so i believe that is an AFF owened site.

So AFF is popping sites they own over their affiliates traffic. Fucking Thieves.

Here is the url: http://outpersonals.com/go/page/gall...KWS%2010.13.06

Morons poping up gay dating from links clicked that were from straight sex traffic.

Looks like this cams page was targeting anyone that gets a cam.com domain name on their browser:

http://cams.com/go/p139234.subsex*cam_Cams.com%202 (zango popup)

The plot keeps getting thicker everyday. Is there no end to the underhanded, greedy,cheating stunts these asshats are up to?:disgust

I sent a note earlier to JD at eXact to get on the boards and defend Bullseye (if you saw that stupid thread calling out AFF n SS):1orglaugh Can you imagine what his nick would be?:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

particularly if Juicy said it...

After reading all of this and some other related threads on the subject, all I can say is WOW !!! This is simply amazing that a sponsor would do what this Lars punk is doing and get away with it. Why would anyone still be sending him a single hit? He already calls all webmasters sheep and cheats them this way, why wouldn't you think he isn't cheating you in other ways? How can a cheater be trusted? This is wild and cannot be allowed to continue.:2 cents: I'm no lawyer but isn't this spyware a form of hacking? wouldn't the FBI be interested in at least looking into this lars dude?

Oh well there will always be things that make you shake your head in disgust and say hummmmmm:disgust

That's a great flick.

Somethings getting thicker, I'm not sure its the plot though.

Unfortunetly thre govt doesn't seem to care much about protecting us, just harrasing us. Thankfully, spyware is just as much a problem in mainstream as adult so we still have a chance of some new laws going into affect.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

spyware = "just like any other pop up"

bump////

Sorry, I am in manila and there is no thinking here .....

Great Thread Guys

Interesting to read

and Funny :)

bump for will76

Really?
 

I Love Sheep