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gfx3 11-16-2006 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11330904)
Ok so no one asked me but I'm gay as fuck and don't need an invitation to run my mouth about things. So, here goes......

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Kimo 11-16-2006 07:43 PM

I dont hate Zango because will77 or whoever told me to, I hate zango because of what it does, so if will supports a company that supports zango then fuck him too.


The only reason myself and others are targetting AFF directly is because Lars was man enough to ADMIT on gfy to using zango, which while it was good not to lie it wasnt a smart thing to do IMO.

So, to all the little boys and girls out there in internet land, if you dont want to get trolled dont do business with zango.




that is all.

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11331148)
You're gay?


GURL I know can you even believe it?!?!?!?! http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStre...ghtsmiley2.gif

Xenophage 11-16-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331128)
I understand what Will's argument is. And more importantly, I now understand why he's been making that argument so strongly for so long now.........

There are a LOT of things in this industry that effect an affiliates traffic. What about TGPs and the like that have popunders that are timed to pop over in x minutes in the future? What about huge programs that also run massive free youtube like porn sites handing out enormous amounts of free content?

The list of things that can be bitched about goes on and on, and I think Zango is proving to be of minuscule significance when it's all said and done with.

Zango is a tool for Will76 to raise the community's awareness of himself (kinda like how I play up the fag thing), and in turn, increase his own personal revenues to the projects that he runs, by getting people to jump off of the Good Ship Lars and jump onto his own personal rowboat.


Agreed a timed pop up has the same effect as adware pops. but was common practice among most if not all large paysite companies for years. where was will then ?

will76 11-16-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11330981)

No thank you, I don't need a reply. I don't need gospel when I can observe a situation first hand for myself.

:thumbsup

who said I was replying for your benefit. Whether or not you believe me is up to you. When you make allegations about me I am going to reply for the benefit of the others who are reading.

Pleasurepays 11-16-2006 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331136)
Yeah..... Uhm...... Cuz this discussion has a lot to do with the FBI DOJ And Lawmakers "coming after us"?

http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStre.../misc/hide.gif


this industry is its own worst enemy.

plain and simple.

do i need to gay it up a bit so that its fluffy, overacted, over emphasized, incoherent babble and throw in some phrases like "sitting on teh cock" and "i'm a gay homosexual" before your attention can be gotten?

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 11331144)
Claiming that he's doing this to pull over affiliates is really pushing it.

I've seen him mention on more than one occasion that he's had "private discussions" with "large AFF affiliates" and said they "won't be sending traffic to AFF anymore".

Will76 has a vested interest in seeing iFriends do well, that includes affiliates that he's able to recruit, and being able to damage any competition that they may have.

I think another thing this boils down to, is Lars' advertising with Zango is probably eating into iFriends' pockets directly, more so than eating into affiliates.

Sly 11-16-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331164)
Agreed a timed pop up has the same effect as adware pops. but was common practice among most if not all large paysite companies for years. where was will then ?

What brokers will allow me to purchase timed pops from sites of my choosing without the sites operators receiving a cut or even approving the pop?

SureFire 11-16-2006 07:47 PM

BoyAlley,

What is a 'Gay HomoSexual' ?

Thanks in advance :upsidedow

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11331170)
do i need to gay it up a bit so that its fluffy, overacted, over emphasized, incoherent babble and throw in some phrases like "sitting on teh cock" and "i'm a gay homosexual" before your attention can be gotten?

Actually that might help, yes.......

MaddCaz 11-16-2006 07:48 PM

pic searching....

Pleasurepays 11-16-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddCaz (Post 11331191)
pic searching....

gay pics?

QuaWee 11-16-2006 07:49 PM

this thread is faggity

Jman 11-16-2006 07:49 PM

This is Hillarious in so many ways. LOLOLOL

Sly 11-16-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 11331182)
What brokers will allow me to purchase timed pops from sites of my choosing without the sites operators receiving a cut or even approving the pop?

I have a new news site about Middle Eastern Affairs. I would like to purchase pops from CNN, Fox, and Al Jazeera.

Who can hook me up with a broker?

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 11331184)
BoyAlley,
What is a 'Gay HomoSexual' ?
Thanks in advance :upsidedow

The question isn't "WHAT is a gay homosexual".

It's "WHO is the gay homosexual".

And the answer is ME! :thumbsup

QuaWee 11-16-2006 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331164)
Agreed a timed pop up has the same effect as adware pops. but was common practice among most if not all large paysite companies for years. where was will then ?

Mom: "Billy that's not right".

Billy: "But, Johnny does it".

polish_aristocrat 11-16-2006 07:53 PM

the food was terrible :Oh crap

will76 11-16-2006 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331128)
I understand what Will's argument is. And more importantly, I now understand why he's been making that argument so strongly for so long now.........

There are a LOT of things in this industry that effect an affiliates traffic. What about TGPs and the like that have popunders that are timed to pop over in x minutes in the future? What about huge programs that also run massive free youtube like porn sites handing out enormous amounts of free content?

The list of things that can be bitched about goes on and on, and I think Zango is proving to be of minuscule significance when it's all said and done with.

Zango is a tool for Will76 to raise the community's awareness of himself (kinda like how I play up the fag thing), and in turn, increase his own personal revenues to the projects that he runs, by getting people to jump off of the Good Ship Lars and jump onto his own personal rowboat.

So much for my intentions being a good reason, there has to be an alteramotive right ?

If I was a board whore I would have found another issue a long time ago to crying about.

Here is some info for you. I am not promoting anything. I keep missing the big sig in my banner. How am I " increasing my own personal revenue" from this?

If somoene who has contacted me in the last couple months about me helping them with clickcash is reading this please post what my reply to you was. I have turned down everyone who has contacted me. I have not made 1 penny from referral sales from this, muchless was I even promoting anything in the first place. I have made zero from this if you feel so strongly surely you can find 1 person who can say otherwise. Find 1 shread of proof that i have made 1 penny from this zango shit and I will stop posting now.

I await your reply.

BlackCrayon 11-16-2006 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331181)
I've seen him mention on more than one occasion that he's had "private discussions" with "large AFF affiliates" and said they "won't be sending traffic to AFF anymore".

Will76 has a vested interest in seeing iFriends do well, that includes affiliates that he's able to recruit, and being able to damage any competition that they may have.

I think another thing this boils down to, is Lars' advertising with Zango is probably eating into iFriends' pockets directly, more so than eating into affiliates.

you'll see me bitching in a lot of the threads but i have nothing to gain, no program to promote. pop unders are very different, first off they pop UNDER. people usually won't see them until they close the window they are already looking at.second, its pretty obvious you've been talking to Lars and buying into what hes feeding you, so how is that any different than people buying into what will is saying? by your logic you're just a sheep on the other side of the fence.

jacklaidlaw 11-16-2006 07:54 PM

http://www.pornostreamer.com/aff5.gif

Andiz 11-16-2006 07:55 PM

LAWDS MERCY :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Xenophage 11-16-2006 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 11331235)
you'll see me bitching in a lot of the threads but i have nothing to gain, no program to promote. pop unders are very different, first off they pop UNDER. people usually won't see them until they close the window they are already looking at.second, its pretty obvious you've been talking to Lars and buying into what hes feeding you, so how is that any different than people buying into what will is saying? by your logic you're just a sheep on the other side of the fence.


Actually untrue have not talked to BoyAlly on phone icq or email of any sort.


Will is pimping up his board presence, so he can be a bigshot, plain and simple his attacks on me and my company have gone above and beyond anything reasonable, and that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.

Xenophage 11-16-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11331238)



Reminds me of the Cum on lars campaign I used to run on GFY where ya hadda try to cum on me in a flash banner with a big dick hahahahahaahhaha

Sean 11-16-2006 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11331238)

that is the greatest thing ever

Sly 11-16-2006 07:59 PM

How can one even compare Zango and TGPs or pop-unders?

Zango. Bid on keywords. When a person with Zango installed on their computer crosses a site with those keywords on it, they receive ad of the highest bidders choosing. Note: the ad is not placed on the site and the site creator does not receive commission for ad nor does he give permission for ad to be placed.

Pop-unders. I own a site. My site gets traffic. I decide to monitize said traffic so *I* profit from *MY* site and *MY* traffic. I add pop-under to *MY* site. I was nice enough to give myself permission.

Now... somebody please explain how those two situations are even remotely similar. And if I'm understanding the operation of Zango incorrectly, please correct me.

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 11331235)
second, its pretty obvious you've been talking to Lars and buying into what hes feeding you, so how is that any different than people buying into what will is saying? by your logic you're just a sheep on the other side of the fence.

I've never spoken to Lars, or anyone else from AFF for that matter, before. In any medium. Ever.

I've been watching Will76's dramas for a long time now, and felt the need to chip in my two gay pennies about it all.

Secondly, anyone that knows me, knows that I'm a free thinker and am not one to "buy into" things that are "fed to me".

Teh BoyAlley is not a goat.

Jace 11-16-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331269)
that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.

did they also say you were a "top notch" guy and that you have "class"?

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331269)
and that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.

OMG Lars said "teh trade show". Too thexy..........

Jace 11-16-2006 08:09 PM

and btw lars, of course people are going to side with you in person, you are wealthy and have money to offer them...people in this biz bow to those above them like they are gods or something

Jace 11-16-2006 08:12 PM

$125 a sign up sure does buy a lot of convention dick suckin doesn't it?

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11331228)
Find 1 shread of proof that i have made 1 penny from this zango shit and I will stop posting now.

I await your reply.

First off, I'm not inspector gadget. My job isn't to hunt down empirical proof.

You profit off of one of Lars' competitors, in fact that appears to be how you earn your living.

You've been make a non-stop big ass deal out of Lars being an evil son of a bitch.

1 + 1 = ?

For that matter, I've yet to see you show emphatically that any of AFF's affiliates have been losing significant income due to Zango? In fact, I've seen SEVERAL large AFF affiliates post the exact opposite?

In fact, to be totally blunt, most of the "affiliates" on here that I've seen bitching are ones that look to only send a half dozen sales to anything in a given week. Waaay to small to be able to trend anything to begin with.

TampaToker 11-16-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11330953)
This is WRONG

Right here in this thread tell us how the cookies and session id's work with aff. I been looking for the anwser to this

BoyAlley 11-16-2006 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11331341)
$125 a sign up sure does buy a lot of convention dick suckin doesn't it?


Your own logic is working against your argument here.

Why would people be sucking his dick for $125 payouts if no one's getting paid anything because Zango is stealing all of their traffics?

Must mean people are making monies with those $125 payouts afterall, huh?

Xenophage 11-16-2006 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11331308)
did they also say you were a "top notch" guy and that you have "class"?

The ones who have known me for a long time, yes in fact they did.

I am not a mean or spitefull person, even when someone goes on an all out crusade against me. I just see things differently is all. Will is entitled to his opinion as are you.


In fact they many said it was humorous I was taking so much heat, because in the past I have been against spam dialers and all kinds of other shady stuff that goes on in this biz, and I left piles and pile and piles of cash on the table due to my own moral issues. I just see things differently here than some. I dont fault them for seeing things different than I do.

nico-t 11-16-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11330920)
Any thread started by teh BoyAlley results in a click by my Apple Mouse. You almost always bring a smile to my face. Thanks.

you like a gay? you fucking heathen.

TampaToker 11-16-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331350)

Your own logic is working against your argument here.

Why would people be sucking his dick for $125 payouts if no one's getting paid anything because Zango is stealing all of their traffics?

Must mean people are making monies with those $125 payouts afterall, huh?

So you tellin me you have no problems with any others companys poping up a popup over your website with a surfer clicks a link to your site?

jayeff 11-16-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331269)
his attacks on me and my company have gone above and beyond anything reasonable

Milton Friedman died today. One of the things I most admired about him was that he never publicly questioned the motives of anyone who disagreed with him. He treated everyone with respect and always argued the issues solely on their merits as he perceived them.

It's a copout to fall back on attacking the messenger, because the message exists as a separate entity. It is either valid or it is not, regardless of who delivered it or why they did so.

You convicted yourself, regardless of anything Will posted before or since and regardless of his reasons for taking up this issue. As to "above and beyond": you are on here several times a day, rubbing everyone's nose in what you have admitted to doing and you are still doing it. If you were smarter, you might pay less attention to those who tell you what you want to hear...

Jace 11-16-2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331350)

Your own logic is working against your argument here.

Why would people be sucking his dick for $125 payouts if no one's getting paid anything because Zango is stealing all of their traffics?

Must mean people are making monies with those $125 payouts afterall, huh?

I am really going to get into the Zango fight, I don't know the full details

BUT, wasn't there one screenshot that showed xxxJay losing money directly from Zango?

and when you make hundreds of sign ups at $125 a pop, and 10-15% dissappear, it isn't that noticeable.....isn't that what was projected for zango users? 10-15%?

GooSearch 11-16-2006 08:20 PM

i have read alot of these threads about lars, zango, will etc etc/// this industry eats itself daily.. and will eventually consume itself.. as far as what boyalley wrote.i think its a great read and by looking for wills posts he started with the whole spyware thing around april, and blew up in oct. will i have never contacted him but after doing a lil snooping around i found a few threads that where a good read
to you fuckers who make $$ installing shit on people's PC's.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=594702

What is the best way to contact LARS (trigger words - CAMS - AFF - Friend Finder ;)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=644843
why?

and regarding aff and lars.. i promote aff but it is not my main source of income.. some of the other companies i have worked with or for have used such program namely 180solutions to them it is strictly business.. they would focus on their major competition.. to them its just big boys playing with bigger budgets then alot of us..

i haven't used zango, but did use 180solutions, personally and for clients, did it convert.. yes it did..


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