Yup we have already answered this before we use url tracking sessions not cookies.

will, clickcash is letting other clickcash webmasters take traffic from you.
when will you stop sending traffic to clickcash

every hit I get from clickcash I see the browser info and the ones that say zango. I know how much traffic it is taking from me. And it is taking quality traffic. I set the hit on the front page, so the people who click to my signup page are the ones that are being hijacked. Which is much higher quality traffic. Lets say it is only taking 1% of my sales. that is still a lot of money.


BTW, i got zango on my pc about 6 weeks ago, EVERY page zango pops up is full screen. EVERYONE. i resized them in my screen shots and i noted that. I think you are looking at screen shots or using an older version. Everyone else who has downloaded recenetly will confirm what i am saying.

Maybe what the AFF guys are trying to get accross is why the fuck are you hating on AFF all day but there are zero IFRIENDS hating threads from you?
Why do you call lars a dick head but not the ifriends owners? Why are aff labaled by you nearly every post as scumware promoters but ifriends arent?
Dude you are insanely jealous of lars thats how comes across.

so that means if someone clicks on an aff banner on a site and then clicks on another site that is overwritten with a zango/aff pop... the original person gets credit for the sale if they sign up to aff?

your dodging the question that means it has merit ifriends affialites are allowed to use zango and you still promote them, you said that if they did not stop you would terminate your relationship with them. Put your money where your big mouth is will

doesn't matter when you pop up full screen over my signup page with your own site and my traffic, that i just sold them to click my signup page, has no idea that your site/page is not the one I was sending them to.

Doesn't matter one bit if you use session tracking or cookies, your page is over mine, they don't see mine until they are finished with your site (which they thought is where i sent them). doesn't matter.

and how long are the tracking sessions good for ?

If you send traffic to our your affilaite url and the customer signs up there you get the credit for the sale, weather there is zango or not.

since clickcash lets their webmasters support adware, since they are letting their webmasters use it....

when will you stop supporting clickcash?

you have not said anything yet?

post that until you are blue in the face I have already stated, whether you want to believe it or not, they are actually doing somethign about it.

When will you worry about what your company doing? for arguments sake, lets say ifriends had your attitude and didn't do anything, does that make me a hypocrite. yeap. I makes me a sucker for believing them when i spoke to them about it. but does that make what you are doing ok? nope. Does that mean you are not taking traffic and sales from people. nope you still are.

But please keep trying to spin it. the everyone else is doing argument is really weak and really old.

I cant believe these people kissing Lars ass lol How does ifriends doing wrong take away from what aff is doing? Also ifriends isnt on this board pretending be the friend of webmasters. When I track one of my password traders and I go to a site that has AFF banners should I make you aware and if I did would those banners be gone the next time I checked? After all your this stand up guy and all.

So lets say I promote cams.com. My surfer clicks on that beautifull "sign up here" link that has my affiliate code in it, now zango pops over and there is the cams.com with another afiliate id. Now if that surfer signs up in that popover screen with the other affiliate code I still get the signup?

Its been over a month will when are they doing something? and just today you were screaming at us for not doing anything how do you know we are not doing something ?? The hypocricy from you is so thick its amazing

ok, let me be more specific.. i promote aff and ifriends on my site. my surfer clicks on aff banner thus creating a session id.. then the surfer clicks on an ifriends banner, which then gets popped over with a zango/aff pop...

who gets credit for the sale?

i ask because if i get credit for that sale then i might not have as much of an issue with zango...

Yes you should abuse at friendfinderinc.com

Well will has shown know proof of any money he has lost yet daily posts about all this money he has lost. What reason do you have to believe aff is costing you signups yet theres no proof of it ANYWHERE.

Wont happen since we are not popping the same site on the same site.

just FYI, a very small percentage of Zango installs actually shows Zango in the user agent. the newer versions show nothing.

i dont understand.. my site is not aff.. its a blog...

tell me what your username is and i will get you a gold account.

or you can go to alt.com and be a pony

sean.. hook me up with one of those gold accounts, too.. you still have my icq from last night?

my jealously just took 3 years to build up LOL.

I guess you missed this post I made: two weeks before I found about all this zango shit.


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Who do you look up to in the adult industry ?

Just curious if you have one or two people in mind who you have gotten to know and like.

I tend to be more partial to the people who came from nothing and made it big, against all odds. People who have put in the hours, scratched and clawed their way to the top (ethically, never stole or cheated anyone to get there). Not someone who registered a good domain 10 years ago and is still milking that one domain to this day, but someone who has diversified, adapted, changed over time.

Personally, I like Lar's story ( from Cams.com) . Seems like a great guy from little I have talked to him, very professional, never has a bad thing to say online even when provoked, and he has accomplished a lot in the last 10 years.

So who do you look up too? If anyone and why ?

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I started that thread on another board on 9/19/06 . and i repeat posted it here today.

I had nothing but respect for lars before this. FIND 1 TIME in 3 years that I ever said 1 thing about him, cams.com or aff.com JUST 1 TIME i said anything bad.

ALL of that time I promoted ClickCash and about 2 years ago I started TeamClickCash. DUring all that time i never said anythign bad about him, but instead said nice things about him.

Him using Scumware comes up and he laughs at us and i find out he is taking my traffic. I get mad, All you idiots assume Iam trying to hurt him for personal gain? Then explain why I did not do this 2 or 3 years ago. Explain why I never said one bad thing about him till now. Could it just be possible, holy shit, could it be that i am telling the fucking truth. No no way I must be doing this for person gain.


you are the real sheep here.

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BoyAlley this thread could be a lot more intelligent without sigwhore posts.. kthx?

so why not just let that 1/2 of 1% go and save face with affiliates? just doesn't add up. you would only be doing it if it was profitable enough.

I've already answered obviously you missed it, unlike you they are doing something about it.



Funny talk about jealously. Lars has been saying, himself, that he is the #2 cams site for years now. And I am the one jealous here. Nice. How you people come to these conclusions. Lars probably has more money right now then I will make in a life time. I just don't think he needs any of mine for free. period.

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Fair enough.

Let me add a few discussion points then.

Lars is [allegedly] bidding on keyword terms and domains related to competition, including the sites that Will promotes.

Whether people close the popups or not doesn't matter, because Lars' affiliate ID is now in the surfers' sessions. So he gets credit.

Is this simpler for everyone to understand the issue?

Also, this 1/2 of 1% figure is bullshit. It's closer to 5%, and remember this is the 5% of the surfers that were gullible enough to install Zango.

This same gullible demographic are the same idiots that sign up for dating sites with fake profiles and pay for porn thats available en masse on Pornotube.

For a gay guy, you allways make alot of sense.

LOL . technically he is right. Because he doesn't targe AFF traffic with AFF zango ads, he use cams.com for the zango pop ups for the AFF traffic and vice versa.

SO you send AFF traffic lars targets aff traffic and will pop up cams over your aff signup page with your trackign url in it.

Ask Lars who gets credit for the cams.com signup that he pops up over your AFF traffic ..... Nice try asshole.

how long is it going to take for them to turn off webmasters that are using adware to steal your traffic will? what does it take? its been a long time? this board is full of threads where they turned off webmasters in less than a day for sending mail. you post in all of the threads. so what does it take will?


they support it will. when will you stop supporting them?

Wow now you have stooped to calling everyone Sheep jesus will i can not belive it !!

sure it's only about the payout. Nothing to do with the fact that ifriends pays for free signups while lars only pays for every signup that actually bought time. And conversions are silly to offcourse. Higher payouts is the only thing that mathers. It's all about perception in this industry.

I dont think your doing it for personal gain, i dont know why you are but i think your overreacting. Since 99% of the people are backing you and 99% of them havent ever installed zango and have no idea what it does but are just following you there the sheep no? Really if you could just prove youve lost which you cant, since you havent :)

Ahh thathas passed I am now the #1 cam site :) Ifriends is no longer the biggest money maker :)

this isn't just about aff, its about every dating/cam sponsor being effected, and its also about allowing such thing to happen, which will result in it only getting worse as time goes on.

The whole premise for this thread is rediculous. Will is attacking AFF because he is an Ifriends affiliate? That is just stupid. I might understand the logic if he was the Ifriends owner. But affiliate? I think BoyAlley is the one with the ulterior motive here. Or he is actually as unintelligent as his "Look at me, I'm a gay attention whore" posts suggest.

Seriously dude, you are a detriment to the gay community as a whole. If all gays acted the way you do, you would never have a chance in hell at the equality you seek. Fortunately, the homosexuals I have known choose to let their minds and personalities define them as opposed to their sexuality (which is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things). It is hard to respect a one dimensional person and that is exactly what you are. You have made a mockery of yourself and gays in general. You are gay. We get it. Now get over it.

I no longer give a shit who promotes or what who uses zango I have heard too much talk of this and its doing my head in now. I have wasted more money making time talking about the effects of zango than I will ever loose from zango stolen sales

So then by the same token, homosexuals should all stop bitching about the Republicans and Christians then. It's all self-serving and that cancels it out.

:angrysoap :boyalley

LOL I have answered you 4 times, I guess not to your satisfaction.

no will, you have not. they are letting webmasters pop right now.

you should not send them traffic until they stop.

after 4 pages and an hour or so of listening to both sides, i dont see any headway in either direction.

i am offically finished with all these zango posts.

my suggestion to all sponsors is make sure your domains are trademarked and have legal send c&d's to zango telling them to stop using your url's in their bid lists.

although this would have no effect on keyword targeting, i think it would at least quiet this debate...