If Will is not making the money he claims to be (well he doesn't claim to. I have heard it from other people) then he should spend less time on your ass and more time on his own business. Either that or he should put a clickable banner in his sig. Maybe someone need to teach Will about marketing, :1orglaugh or someone needs to thanks him for trying to do a good thing and make people aware of the fact that people are stealing traffic. Whether it be 20% or .00001% it's still theft (unfortunately legal theft for now) and it will just get worse.

Lars I think you should spend less time on Wills ass and more time explaining your side of the story. If you can convince me that Zango is not a problem and explain to me why you continue to use them than I Will Start sending traffic again and promote the shit out of you on GFY.

WILL76:

when will you stop sending traffic to a company that will take adware traffic?

have you stopped sending traffic to ifriends?

exactly pointing in wills direction as the person using controversy for building himself up. This has gone beyond a pointing out of the issues to a full fledged attack of will against our company.

yeap yeap still waiting :thumbsup

hey explain to me how you can be promoting a company that allows zango but then throw rocks over here answer that first !

if it takes one sale from a affiliate thats too much, how do you think this ok. What were you promised? As for this ifriends uses it too defense, so that makes AFF's behavior ok????
Every password trading site I found my shit ,there is a AFF banner. Those sites are stealing from fellow webmasters and they are financially supporting it and this we dont know where it comes from or what our affiliates are doing is bullshit. if you can read a basic stats program you know where the traffic comes from.

bullshit. if you cared you would fix the problem like you said you were working on in your "position statement" .

You have made ZERO updates on that "problem" you have been working on. That really makes us believe you really weren't trying in the first place.


Do you think making a thread calling us all sheep and making SEVERAL Excuses like, well sex search made me do it, or it's just a pop up, don't even try to insult us muchless our intelligence with your lame ass excuses.

Stop taking my traffic, you and zango. this isn;t going to end till people's traffic is stopped being taken. You can easy step aside by doing the right thing and let the others take the heat or you can keep using Scumware and laughing at us.

oh but than it's all good....

but why would they close it? AFF is the link they clicked, AFF popped up

Exactamundo but will has turned this into way bigger than it is and lots of people bought into his agenda withought really looking at the realities.

go install zango and then come back and talk like you know what you are talking about. Don' tell me what happens when i see it with my own eyes and you are obviously going off of someone else's missinformation.

Now answer the cookie/session question

so, you don't consider the drama behind you all allow illegal porn sites and warez sites use your ads drama?

the fact you support porn theft wasn't drama? LOL...ok man

If another person was as concerned as Will, Lars might need a better response than "why are you still promoting iFriends?"

it was just a matter of time till you said that.

jesus christ people like you are predictable. Obviously I must be lieing about my income now. pathetic.

Yeah and will continues to send traffic to them and bash us. Hypocrytical ??

my popups are tabs, even I don't notice it is a new window sometimes

I have spent weeks bashing people using scumware. Why can't you see the difference ?

You said I am doing this to make money off of people signing up under me. then find one person to confirm that. You said you saw posts where i was talking to AFF affiliates that left AFF or some shit like that, then post the fucking thread or shut the fuck up.

No, if they click an aff link they go to an aff page in there browser just a pop would also show up of whoever is advertising on that link. They may go to an aff page and a ferrari page pops up, that is why complaining about money stolen is so dumb because so few if any is.
Also, zango isnt a browser lol, how can you complain about something you know squat about.

Lars can you please answer the session/cookies question....

its still wrong behavior on your part ,if they are doing it or not.

you can do the right thing and not support Ifriends until they stop allowing affialites to promote ZANGO but you like money more than you dislike zango. So you wont actually pull your traffic from them.

apparently this wasn't drama to Lars though

Oh now bandwagon bashing is not ok ?? It sure was when it was in your favor.

then when are you going to stop sending traffic to a company that supports it?

I don't know anything about it, as I already saind once in this thread, and that is why I am asking questions

Ive been promoting it for a long time and have installed it many times (everytime easily uninstalled from 4 clicks)
How hard is it for you to track zango referals and post your results? Maybe you would be surprised at the LACK of them.

Here you are an owner of a 100+ million dollar a year company trying to speculate how I am handling this with clickcash and what they are doing about it, worrying about me. When you have admitted that you use scumware and you admitted that is takes traffic/signups away from your affiliates and others here.

When are you going to start worrying about Lars and AFF and fix YOUR shit and stop worrying about what I am doing.

and to the predictable here who will post for me to worry about me and not lars. I will stop worrying about any company who takes money out of my pocket when they start doing somethign to prevent that. I am not stealing from lars, him using zango is taking sales/traffic from me.

Yup we have already answered this before we use url tracking sessions not cookies.

will, clickcash is letting other clickcash webmasters take traffic from you.
when will you stop sending traffic to clickcash

every hit I get from clickcash I see the browser info and the ones that say zango. I know how much traffic it is taking from me. And it is taking quality traffic. I set the hit on the front page, so the people who click to my signup page are the ones that are being hijacked. Which is much higher quality traffic. Lets say it is only taking 1% of my sales. that is still a lot of money.


BTW, i got zango on my pc about 6 weeks ago, EVERY page zango pops up is full screen. EVERYONE. i resized them in my screen shots and i noted that. I think you are looking at screen shots or using an older version. Everyone else who has downloaded recenetly will confirm what i am saying.

Maybe what the AFF guys are trying to get accross is why the fuck are you hating on AFF all day but there are zero IFRIENDS hating threads from you?
Why do you call lars a dick head but not the ifriends owners? Why are aff labaled by you nearly every post as scumware promoters but ifriends arent?
Dude you are insanely jealous of lars thats how comes across.

so that means if someone clicks on an aff banner on a site and then clicks on another site that is overwritten with a zango/aff pop... the original person gets credit for the sale if they sign up to aff?

your dodging the question that means it has merit ifriends affialites are allowed to use zango and you still promote them, you said that if they did not stop you would terminate your relationship with them. Put your money where your big mouth is will

doesn't matter when you pop up full screen over my signup page with your own site and my traffic, that i just sold them to click my signup page, has no idea that your site/page is not the one I was sending them to.

Doesn't matter one bit if you use session tracking or cookies, your page is over mine, they don't see mine until they are finished with your site (which they thought is where i sent them). doesn't matter.

and how long are the tracking sessions good for ?

If you send traffic to our your affilaite url and the customer signs up there you get the credit for the sale, weather there is zango or not.

since clickcash lets their webmasters support adware, since they are letting their webmasters use it....

when will you stop supporting clickcash?

you have not said anything yet?