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woj 11-17-2006 12:18 AM

250........

will76 11-17-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 11331767)
No, if they click an aff link they go to an aff page in there browser just a pop would also show up of whoever is advertising on that link. They may go to an aff page and a ferrari page pops up, that is why complaining about money stolen is so dumb because so few if any is.
Also, zango isnt a browser lol, how can you complain about something you know squat about.

you really need to go install zango you really dont know how it works. seriously, i know you promoted the installs from what you said, but I dont think you put it on your own computer recently. it doesnt work that way.

Xenophage 11-17-2006 12:23 AM

ahhaahhaah this is some funny shit so basically will pointing out zango to ifrineds they found a new source of traffic and are now buying direct from zango . Oh man this takes the cake. Will76 you absolutely have to stop promoting Ifriends or your gonna have to eat crow brother. You said if they support it you would drop them in a second after allt eh tounge lashing you been dishing out to me over the last month you have to put your $$$ where your mouth is and terminate your relationship, if you do not then it shows your all about the $$ and your talk of ethics is all bullshit.

will76 11-17-2006 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 11331886)
Well will has shown know proof of any money he has lost yet daily posts about all this money he has lost. What reason do you have to believe aff is costing you signups yet theres no proof of it ANYWHERE.

you are an idiot. so companies paid zango 50 million in 2004 and they didnt make any money from the traffic they bought.

HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE BE SO FUCKING STUPID ?

how do i show proof i lost money. I can't it;s not possible. I can show how much AFF made off of it if it goes to court. I can show how much zango collected from AFF. I think anyone with an IQ of 60+ can do the math on this one.

will76 11-17-2006 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331888)
Wont happen since we are not popping the same site on the same site.

but it is ok for you to pop cams.com up over aff.com traffic.


And this is in the best interest of yoru affiliates. Your affiliates send traffic to aff.com and if the user has zango you pop up a cams.com page.

Lars who gets credit for the cams.com signup? YOU or the Affiliate. Now stop with the, it can't happen bullshit. No one cares if you make the signup using site A or site B, you still taking the sale away from your affiliate.

Address the issues!!!! :2 cents:

will76 11-17-2006 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331893)
See how badly people have been misinformed? Exactly why I started this thread........

you are a worthless board whore. You come in here post about somethign you know nothing about, make your bull shit accusations.

YOU SAID YOU SAY WHERE I POSTED THAT I TALKED TO AFF AFFILIATES that i was getting to drop AFF? Post the fucking links then. You saw this why can't you show us???? why lie ??

now you are in here posting posting bullshit trying to get sig views from the bogus bullshit you started.

will76 11-17-2006 12:33 AM

BTW i am still on page 4 for those of you reading this.... one day I will make it to the current page ;) lol.

xxxjay 11-17-2006 12:35 AM

Lars is cool.

Will76 is a dork.

Boyalley is still a homo.

Things are as they should be. Zen is upon us.

will76 11-17-2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic (Post 11331895)
just FYI, a very small percentage of Zango installs actually shows Zango in the user agent. the newer versions show nothing.

Great so i am losing more then i thought :Oh crap

will76 11-17-2006 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331893)
See how badly people have been misinformed? Exactly why I started this thread........

LOL you really putting your foot in your mouth.

Thanks for educating us idiots that AFF doesn't hijack AFF traffic with an AFF zango page, that they use a cams.com instead.

Lars still makes the sale. the affiliate still loses the sale. I guess you think this is ok ?

BTW most of us knew this already.

Xenophage 11-17-2006 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332722)
but it is ok for you to pop cams.com up over aff.com traffic.


And this is in the best interest of yoru affiliates. Your affiliates send traffic to aff.com and if the user has zango you pop up a cams.com page.

Lars who gets credit for the cams.com signup? YOU or the Affiliate. Now stop with the, it can't happen bullshit. No one cares if you make the signup using site A or site B, you still taking the sale away from your affiliate.

Address the issues!!!! :2 cents:


as was shown if we do not pop cams then sexsearch buys the pop. If sexsearch buys the pop then our affilaites lose becuase we lose money. If we make money off of a cams pop then that money is filtered back into the payouts in the form of bonuses and higher percent and affilaites in the end make more money. If we let sexsearch buy the popup then we would have to reduce payouts as we would be less competative, and our affilaites would make less money. So do our affilaites want us to buy the pops or do tehy want sexsearch or 10 others buy the pop ? I say affilaites would rather us buy it.

Xenophage 11-17-2006 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332740)
you are a worthless board whore. You come in here post about somethign you know nothing about, make your bull shit accusations.

YOU SAID YOU SAY WHERE I POSTED THAT I TALKED TO AFF AFFILIATES that i was getting to drop AFF? Post the fucking links then. You saw this why can't you show us???? why lie ??

now you are in here posting posting bullshit trying to get sig views from the bogus bullshit you started.



hahhaha your head is about to explode your so angry and frustrated that you have been caught with your pants down and wont take action.

will76 11-17-2006 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331957)
You know what the funnay thing is about all of this? I just went and looked, and Lars' payouts are more than 1/2 of 1% higher than iFriends, so if will76 started promoting them instead, he'd probably end up way out ahead.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So now you are comparing FREE signups vs Pay signups.

I make about $55 on average a FREE signup. I convert 4x more on FREE signups then pay signups. does that make sense?? redo your math. If it says free but they need to put a credit card in it will convert better then something that I need them to pay $25 for. From my experience, since 99' i notice 3 to 4x better conversion ratio with FREE w/credit card vs. $25+ join.

Along the same lines, FREE (email) signups convert a lot better then FREE w/credit card.

BoyAlley, please icq me before you post, you are embarassing yourself.

Xenophage 11-17-2006 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332812)
So now you are comparing FREE signups vs Pay signups.

I make about $55 on average a FREE signup. I convert 4x more on FREE signups then pay signups. does that make sense?? redo your math. If it says free but they need to put a credit card in it will convert better then something that I need them to pay $25 for. From my experience, since 99' i notice 3 to 4x better conversion ratio with FREE w/credit card vs. $25+ join.

Along the same lines, FREE (email) signups convert a lot better then FREE w/credit card.

BoyAlley, please icq me before you post, you are embarassing yourself.


It does not matter any more Cams.com kicks Ifriends ass now more $$ per click than Ifriends any day of the week. I know that just pisses the shit outta you but at $105 PPS we are kicking Ifriends ass all day long

Daruma 11-17-2006 12:51 AM

this whole shit just makes me sick...
lars your comparing zango to being no different than delayed pop-ups..

well let me ask you - do you have to re-format, re-install a computer based on delayed pop-ups... fuck no

your comparing 2 things that are completely different..
your character is what is in question for me personally - I know this is not the first time that you've fucked others in business and this is just on a much wider scale..

your paychecks and share holdings I am sure are fat and only getting fatter.. but I do believe and hope that this will come back to kick you in the ass someday..

Daruma 11-17-2006 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332860)
It does not matter any more Cams.com kicks Ifriends ass now more $$ per click than Ifriends any day of the week. I know that just pisses the shit outta you but at $105 PPS we are kicking Ifriends ass all day long

thats because you have your shave-o-matic tuned up

will76 11-17-2006 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 11331979)
I dont think your doing it for personal gain, i dont know why you are but i think your overreacting. Since 99% of the people are backing you and 99% of them havent ever installed zango and have no idea what it does but are just following you there the sheep no? Really if you could just prove youve lost which you cant, since you havent :)

Yeap all the times that cams.com and aff.com pops up over my traffic, i never lose one sale to that. :1orglaugh all quality traffic going to my signup page, not 1 sale. And all the money AFF pays Zango, it is a donation or charity ? I am sure AFF is doing it for the abuse and to make money, and if they doint it to make money, which they are, then you tellign me that magically all of the times they do it to my traffic, no one signups those times.

do you honestly believe this? honestly ?

Xenophage 11-17-2006 12:55 AM

So wait your worried about a cams pop on your ifriends page but and ifriends pop on and ifriends page is ok ? You still ignoring the issue.

Sean 11-17-2006 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332722)
Address the issues!!!! :2 cents:


indeed will, indeed.

your only sponsor accepts adware traffic. what does it say in your sig?

"Did you know that ""adware"" is is stealing your traffic and your sales?
Contact your sponsors to make sure they do not support this."

your sponsor supports adware will76

will76 11-17-2006 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11331992)
I no longer give a shit who promotes or what who uses zango I have heard too much talk of this and its doing my head in now. I have wasted more money making time talking about the effects of zango than I will ever loose from zango stolen sales


take a break man.

I will carry the whole industry if i have to. You helped, you were made aware and you made us laugh. Thank you for your contribution. Just because you spent a few hours on this and the problem is not solved right away, don't think your time was wasted. It wasn't.


Even if you don't post about it you know what is right and what is wrong. Thanks for you help.

will76 11-17-2006 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 11332026)
after 4 pages and an hour or so of listening to both sides, i dont see any headway in either direction.

i am offically finished with all these zango posts.

my suggestion to all sponsors is make sure your domains are trademarked and have legal send c&d's to zango telling them to stop using your url's in their bid lists.

although this would have no effect on keyword targeting, i think it would at least quiet this debate...

Thanks for your help. We appreciate it. Don't let it burn you out.

Lars is banking on all of us giving up.... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ME :thumbsup not that i have anything against AFF, just companies that use scumware. IF lars stopped using scumware I would never mention his name again :2 cents:

DateDoc 11-17-2006 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 11330925)
or he just hates the spywares
LAWDS MERCY

:thumbsup

Sean 11-17-2006 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332927)
Thanks for your help. We appreciate it. Don't let it burn you out.

Lars is banking on all of us giving up.... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ME :thumbsup not that i have anything against AFF, just companies that use scumware. IF lars stopped using scumware I would never mention his name again :2 cents:


what are you talking about will?? CLICKCASH WILL TAKE ADWARE TRAFFIC.

YOU SEND THEM TRAFFIC.

will76 11-17-2006 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11332048)

search on this board and you will find out how fast clickcash can turn off a webmaster.

ding ding we have a winner. think about it they cancel accounts from getting just one or two complaints for all other traffic but not this.... think about it.... if you can't figure it out when they are ready to make their statement or finished doing what they are doing then you will see it if you can't figure it out now.

Xenophage 11-17-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332927)
Thanks for your help. We appreciate it. Don't let it burn you out.

Lars is banking on all of us giving up.... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ME :thumbsup not that i have anything against AFF, just companies that use scumware. IF lars stopped using scumware I would never mention his name again :2 cents:



hahahahh But when its Ifriends that will promotes its cute. God your such a joke

will76 11-17-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332053)

Ask OZman who posted that thread how he feels now about what you are doing. You know him, just ask him :2 cents:

Sean 11-17-2006 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332953)
ding ding we have a winner. think about it they cancel accounts from getting just one or two complaints for all other traffic but not this.... think about it.... if you can't figure it out when they are ready to make their statement or finished doing what they are doing then you will see it if you can't figure it out now.



OK THEN WILL... why will they not TURN OFF THE ADWARE!! its been a long time and YOU said that YOU talked to them about it????

how long does it take will? how long?

Xenophage 11-17-2006 01:13 AM

yeah but more important he also knows what a tool you really are talkign out the side of your ass on a crusade, but then when its on your own doorstep you still wanna leave your house to look at other peoples crap. Clean your own doorstep first.

Xenophage 11-17-2006 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332953)
ding ding we have a winner. think about it they cancel accounts from getting just one or two complaints for all other traffic but not this.... think about it.... if you can't figure it out when they are ready to make their statement or finished doing what they are doing then you will see it if you can't figure it out now.

They can easily turn it off whenever they want, when we ban an affiliate it goes to a page that says this affiliate has been banned and we do not take the traffic any more. Easy enough for anyone to do.

will76 11-17-2006 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucky1 (Post 11332216)
OK what are YOU doing about it? I would love to know.

Last I heard was that there was nothing you could do. You had to protect your company and you were being forced to use zango. <-- All bullshit.

in his "position statement" WEEKS ago, he said they were working on it. No updates have been made other then calling us sheep and insulting us.

:upsidedow I am sure they are hard at work for a solution though :2 cents:

Sean 11-17-2006 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332988)
:upsidedow I am sure they are hard at work for a solution though :2 cents:


just like your main sponsor clickcash will. and you are still sending them traffic.

PULL YOUR TRAFFIC TO CLICKCASH UNTIL THEY STOP TAKING ADWARE TRAFFIC? this whole time you still send them traffic. why not stop? they
have not made a statement yet

will76 11-17-2006 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 11332220)
I

If I recall correctly, Will was making posts about ZANGO until he noticed that AFF and Sexsearch were the two most common sponsors he was seeing pop up. Then, and only then, were any sponsors singled out.

Yes that and it is hard to make a lot of post about sex search or the other people doing it if they wont admit to it or even post here.

Lars admitted to it, then laughed in our faces and now is rubbing it in and he wonders why I am pissed and posting about it.... :2 cents:

DateDoc 11-17-2006 01:24 AM

Dude you guys can have a pissing match all night. Why not be the better person and man up. And Lars take a read http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/678143-lars-invite.html

Sean 11-17-2006 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11333026)
Lars admitted to it, then laughed in our faces and now is rubbing it in and he wonders why I am pissed and posting about it.... :2 cents:


no, we are wondering why you are still sending traffic to a sponsor that takes adware, while you are still flying a sig that speaks against it

Pleasurepays 11-17-2006 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11333039)
no, we are wondering why you are still sending traffic to a sponsor that takes adware, while you are still flying a sig that speaks against it

the rest of the world is wondering why you are continually trying to redirect the conversation and make it about something else.


you rob affiliates.


period.


end of story.


Lars admitted it... except he called stealling from affiliates "unfortuneate adware collisions" or whatever the fuck.




sorry... AFF/Cams.com robbing affilaites and calling them idiots has nothing to do with Ifriends or Will.

will76 11-17-2006 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 11332235)
Also, Im not an affiliate of AFF, but I do some marketing where zango has been heavily marketed recently and I HAVE noticed a significant decrease in signups.

Sorry to hear but thanks for sharing for those that believe no one here loses sales to zango and companies using them.

Sean 11-17-2006 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11333064)
the rest of the world is wondering why you are continually trying to redirect the conversation and make it about something else.

nope. if will76 pulls his traffic to clickcash, since clickcash takes adware
traffic, then clickcash should stop right?

will76 11-17-2006 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332400)
god I always thought will was a man of his word but now I see the truth I am so dissapointed. He is just a greedy bastard who has an agenda. when confronted witht eh fact that ifriends is buying adware from sango he does nothing but make excuses, after a month of bashing our company for the same precitces. Put up or shit up will !


I dissapointed you, this post you are making is funny on so many levels.

Pleasurepays 11-17-2006 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11333083)
nope. if will76 pulls his traffic to clickcash, since clickcash takes adware
traffic, then clickcash should stop right?

nope. first and foremost... the two are not connected at all. They are two totally different issues. You are trying to redirect attention from your own unethical conduct to someone else. Maybe ClickCash rapes babies. That has nothing to do with you fucking over your own affiliates and others. Besides, AFF/Cams.com robs affiliates... Will is an affiliate.

will76 11-17-2006 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11332482)
clickcash takes traffic from zango. why will you not stop supporting them?

teamclickcash right will?

im done for the night. will, you need to pull your traffic to ifriends and publicly state it, or you have no foot to stand on.

you were done before you started. You are basing the entire excuse of why the company you are working for is using scumware us because you believe clickcash is still acepting it.

nice justification. 99% of the other people here could give a shit if i promote ifriends or not. They want you to stop using zango and scumware. what do you say to them ? " But will76 still promotes ifriends" :1orglaugh

DateDoc 11-17-2006 01:38 AM

PS - AFF if you would take a page out of the sexsearch book you will see most ppl have forgotten about them and Zango as they have kept their mouth shut. Sure on Zangoblacklist.com AFF is #1 but if you look down to #3 you see sexsearch. Not too many ppl bitching about them lately. If you came out and said you will no longer support Zango and protect your copyrighted domain SexSearch would not be able to steal your traffic. Will it cost you $$ to do so? Sure it will. But I'd be concerned about my companies rep more and protecting the ppl that made you the #1 dating site on the net (your affiliates).

Sean 11-17-2006 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11333098)
Will is an affiliate.

whenever anyone calls out clickcash on this board, or any board, will is the one to respond. the only word from clickcash on this topic is from will. search any board for ifriends or clickcash.

will's entire business is supporting clickcash.

clickcash takes adware. will sends them traffic and supports affiliates signed up under him for clickcash

that is his business teamclickcash

Daruma 11-17-2006 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11333064)
you rob affiliates.


period.


end of story.

perfectly said
this is exactly why not a single click of my exit or cam oriented traffic will ever go to mrIneedAhaircut..

will76 11-17-2006 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 11332580)
I'm not a gay homosexual but let me see if I can get this straight. Will says that if AFF stops taking traffic from Zango it will have a huge impact and help make Zango go away. Yet HE, someone that controls a LARGE part of iFriends' traffic, won't stop sending traffic to iFriends in order to make them stop taking the Zango traffic.

:helpme :helpme :helpme


Now Sagi... (lars+Irishpimp+ sagi) do you have anyone else over there you can get to defend you?

Lars you can get your fucking receiptionist to post. You can't spin this.

Regardless what I am doing what do you tell the thousands of people here who want you to stop using scumware " but will76 is still promoting clickcash and they haven't stopped yet" I am sure everyone else will like your reasons. then what, when clickcash stops, you will stop too :1orglaugh

bring it on, go call your friends, get them to make more post like xxxjay, get all your workers to post. i am not going away. you keep bringing it to me i will respond. anyone who uses scumware will hear from me about it.

Sean 11-17-2006 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11333107)
you were done before you started. You are basing the entire excuse of why the company you are working for is using scumware us because you believe clickcash is still acepting it.

nice justification. 99% of the other people here could give a shit if i promote ifriends or not. They want you to stop using zango and scumware. what do you say to them ? " But will76 still promotes ifriends" :1orglaugh


so will, when will you stop promoting a company that takes adware?

will76 11-17-2006 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332599)
sad thing is others now are looking at this as a new buisness model. You have started at least 3 new adware companies in the last month, congrats.

And I am sure they will come to you to buy ads from them.... I am sure you will do you part :error :1orglaugh

Sean 11-17-2006 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11333122)
anyone who uses scumware will hear from me about it.


then why are you not putting up threads asking clickcash to stop accepting adware?

Pleasurepays 11-17-2006 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11333115)
whenever anyone calls out clickcash on this board, or any board, will is the one to respond. the only word from clickcash on this topic is from will. search any board for ifriends or clickcash.

will's entire business is supporting clickcash.

clickcash takes adware. will sends them traffic and supports affiliates signed up under him for clickcash

that is his business teamclickcash

Will is not cams.com robbing affiliates. Sorry. You lose again.


AFF/Cams.com steals from affiliates. Lars admitted it himself and was quite unapologetic about it.

Today, he was asking all the usual ass lickers what they want for christmas which is soooo typical of this business full of idiotic morons.

ClickCash... Will, Jesus Christ, Nuclear Iran, Milton Freedman and Kim Jong Il have ZERO to do with AFF./Cams.com stealing from affiliates.

nothing.

zero.

totally not related.

will76 11-17-2006 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332618)
yeah feels good dont it :)


bottom line is you continue your attacks on us and then when confronted that your main sponsor does the same thing and you in fact said you would drop them in a heartbeat if they were doing it and now you wont do shit speaks volumes to who and what you are.

so says the go making bank off of scumware judging me because he thinks I didn't keep my word.

I think people on this board will care more about the money they are losing to you vs my word, but that is just speculation on my part.

And for the 10th time, clickcash is working on it. time will time. time will tell a lot of things about what we are talking about right now.

will76 11-17-2006 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332794)
as was shown if we do not pop cams then sexsearch buys the pop. If sexsearch buys the pop then our affilaites lose becuase we lose money. If we make money off of a cams pop then that money is filtered back into the payouts in the form of bonuses and higher percent and affilaites in the end make more money. If we let sexsearch buy the popup then we would have to reduce payouts as we would be less competative, and our affilaites would make less money. So do our affilaites want us to buy the pops or do tehy want sexsearch or 10 others buy the pop ? I say affilaites would rather us buy it.

no, they want you to sue them and protect your trade mark so you dont have to take sales from them just to "give it back to them".

How do you explain everyone else here who promotes ifriends or imlive, or iwantu who doesnt target your urls. you take traffic from lots of sites here and therefore lots of affiliartes here. what is your reasoning for that ?

100+ million dollar company admits to taking sales from people using scumare and too much of a pussy to sue the company doing it to them to win an open shut copyright case.

you are out of excuses.


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