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BoyAlley

11-16-2006 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoteForPedro (Post 11331991)

Seriously dude, you are a detriment to the gay community as a whole. If all gays acted the way you do, you would never have a chance in hell at the equality you seek. Fortunately, the homosexuals I have known choose to let their minds and personalities define them as opposed to their sexuality (which is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things).

Lars here watch. I'm gonna teach you.

BEHOLD! Above is a critical post of Teh BoyAlley by someone that doesn't understand the concepts of "board personas", "branding", or "marketing".

What on earth shall I do?!?!?!

Here I'll show you. Watch. Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it:

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will76

11-16-2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331874)

Its been over a month will when are they doing something? and just today you were screaming at us for not doing anything how do you know we are not doing something ?? The hypocricy from you is so thick its amazing

If they scratched their elbow they would be doing more then what you are doing. At least they are not laughing at people and callign them sheep and making a million excuses. I told you don't worry about it. they are working on it. Worry about Lars.

Hey lars how much did you guys make in zango signups today ?

Sean	11-16-2006 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332031)

bullshit will. you know it. what does it take for them to stop? you send them traffic will. they support adware will.

search on this board and you will find out how fast clickcash can turn off a webmaster.

i will worry about you sending a company traffic that accepts adware, while you tromp all over the place screaming about it

Xenophage

11-16-2006 10:06 PM

oh my god we are moving to this thread it is over the top

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/678114-_zango-ifriends-screenshot.html

Xenophage

11-16-2006 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11331992)

I no longer give a shit who promotes or what who uses zango I have heard too much talk of this and its doing my head in now. I have wasted more money making time talking about the effects of zango than I will ever loose from zango stolen sales

That is a true statement

Xenophage

11-16-2006 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11332029)

hahhaahhaahahah oh man best lauch I have had in a while :)

will76

11-16-2006 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 11331144)

I must be missing something.

I haven't seen Will push TCC in any of the Zango threads, much less have I even seen him speak of TCC in months. I just checked his sig, has nothing to do with TCC aside from the email address.

Claiming that he's doing this to pull over affiliates is really pushing it.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

VoteForPedro

11-16-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11332029)

A critical post by someone who doesn't understand the concept of giving up my self respect and sense of self for a dollar. Branding is one thing. Misrepresenting the gay community with the redundant stereotypes is another. You seem to be proud of being gay yet you represent gays so poorly. You make being gay something to be laughed at (not with). You have the opportunity to break the stereotypes and represent yourself as someone to be respected. Noone respects someone who defines themself by their sexuality. Someone who can't form a cohesive sentence. You come across as very unintelligent. Who knows what you are. All I know is what I see. And all I see is that you like you like to take a dick in the ass. That is who you are because that is all your actions say you are. You say alot without ever saying ANYTHING.

BoyAlley

11-16-2006 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoteForPedro (Post 11332146)

I'm not misrepresenting anything, I'm over exaggerating stereotypes and anyone with half a brain on here can recognize that.

Sorry, but doesn't look like I'll be voting for you Pedro. :2 cents:

BoyAlley

11-16-2006 10:32 PM

PMdave

11-16-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11332058)

That is a true statement

Yup he's right. Nobody is going to loose any money due to stolen zango traffic. Nobody looses so nobody wins. And since it doesn't make you any money and you are waisting your time trying to convince everyone you are doing nothing nothing wrong you could just as well stop using zango.

will76

11-16-2006 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331375)

The ones who have known me for a long time, yes in fact they did.

I am not a mean or spitefull person, even when someone goes on an all out crusade against me. I just see things differently is all. Will is entitled to his opinion as are you..

my only explanation is that either people change or you have always been extremely greedy..... to bad you got ambition mixed up with greed.

VoteForPedro

11-16-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11332164)

I'm not misrepresenting anything, I'm over exaggerating stereotypes and anyone with half a brain on here can recognize that.

Sorry, but doesn't look like I'll be voting for you Pedro. :2 cents:

LOL. Ok dude.

will76

11-16-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 11331380)

Milton Friedman died today. One of the things I most admired about him was that he never publicly questioned the motives of anyone who disagreed with him. He treated everyone with respect and always argued the issues solely on their merits as he perceived them.

It's a copout to fall back on attacking the messenger, because the message exists as a separate entity. It is either valid or it is not, regardless of who delivered it or why they did so.

You convicted yourself, regardless of anything Will posted before or since and regardless of his reasons for taking up this issue. As to "above and beyond": you are on here several times a day, rubbing everyone's nose in what you have admitted to doing and you are still doing it. If you were smarter, you might pay less attention to those who tell you what you want to hear...

Here is someone who can say it better then me, :thumbsup

And honestly, I have no motivations other then i am anti scumware and anyone who uses them. If you don;t want to get questioned and called out for using traffic you take from others then dont take it :2 cents:

BoyAlley

11-16-2006 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11332201)

And honestly, I have no motivations other then i am anti scumware and anyone who uses them.

Are you going to stop sending traffic to iFriends since it appears pretty heavily that they're supporting Zango?

You said you were going after companies that support adware, and not going after Lars, and that I was wrong that your attacks on Lars were motivated by the fact he was a competitor to iFriends?

Seems to me if that were a true statement you'd be turning off your traffic to them immediately?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=678114

tony286

11-16-2006 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11332208)

very transparent lol what did lars promise you ?

lucky1

11-16-2006 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331874)

OK what are YOU doing about it? I would love to know.

Last I heard was that there was nothing you could do. You had to protect your company and you were being forced to use zango. <-- All bullshit.

germ	11-16-2006 10:41 PM

I haven't seen Will say anything about trying to get people to join ifriends. I see where you're coming from, and I think that if Ifriends is found to be doing the same thing AFF is doing, Will should drop them and start promoting someone else as a matter of principle. However, I dont think its fair to just assume that he's speaking out against AFF to lure people to join ifriends.

Let's be honest, AFF is the sponsor of choice for all types of shady sites on the internet. I've personally seen their ads on warez sites, torrent sites, password trading sites, etc. It shouldnt be surprising to anyone that they would also be into adware popups.

If I recall correctly, Will was making posts about ZANGO until he noticed that AFF and Sexsearch were the two most common sponsors he was seeing pop up. Then, and only then, were any sponsors singled out.

will76

11-16-2006 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11331383)

I am really going to get into the Zango fight, I don't know the full details

BUT, wasn't there one screenshot that showed xxxJay losing money directly from Zango?

and when you make hundreds of sign ups at $125 a pop, and 10-15% dissappear, it isn't that noticeable.....isn't that what was projected for zango users? 10-15%?

Yeap I documented xxxjay losing traffic to zango, some which were being targeted by lars, some by others.

Even if you lose 1% of your sales, and you make 5K a week, that's still over $2500 a year, and $2500 more then I think anyone would be comfortable losing. Just because people like lars wants to use zango and take your traffic, we should accept this as a cost of doing business??? Fuck that.

BoyAlley

11-16-2006 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 11332212)

very transparent lol what did lars promise you ?

Seriously, absolutely nothing.

I've never spoken to Lars, anyone from AFF or any other companies related to Lars, and have never promoted them (or any other breeder site for that matter).

I just got sick and tired of watching what in my opinion appeared to be a VERY obvious game being played by Will76 that a lot of people were falling for hook line and sinker.

germ	11-16-2006 10:45 PM

Also, Im not an affiliate of AFF, but I do some marketing where zango has been heavily marketed recently and I HAVE noticed a significant decrease in signups.

Brujah

11-16-2006 10:55 PM

This thread needs ... Towelie

http://fails.org/towelie.jpg

WiredGuy

11-16-2006 11:13 PM

Can someone sumarize whats been going on in this thread for those of us who don't want to read 5 pages worth of replies?
WG

will76

11-16-2006 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GooSearch (Post 11331386)

i found a few threads that where a good read
to you fuckers who make $$ installing shit on people's PC's.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=594702

What is the best way to contact LARS (trigger words - CAMS - AFF - Friend Finder ;)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=644843
why?

..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=594702
I posted that as a USER pissed off about spyware on one of my PC's at my office. I later wipped the harddrive and reformatted. The popups would come at random times to random shit, mostly mainstream. I was looking at if from the stand point of a computer user not a webmaster. I even said in that thread, I don't understand how people make money from these popups when they piss so many people off.

Fast forward to October 2006. I get zango on my PC. People don't realize it is poping up. They click My link and the zango page comes up, most people think that is what they were clicking for. Most people users don't even know it is happening. I see this happening on my URLS, now I start thinking as webmaster who now understand how this is not good for my business. I start posting here.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=644843 I was actually trying to contact lars about sending him some traffic, no shit. I was joking how whenever you typed in his name in a theard he would reply soon, I was trying to get his attention/ Come to find out, I think this was when he was out of town for his birthday. There you have the facts for what it is worth.

will76

11-16-2006 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11331437)

I've never been to any shows. They're scurry. WAY too much bewbie action for my taste. :2 cents:

I'm just calling it like I see it.........

then open up your eyes. You want to write a book with your opinions and state all this bogus shit but then you can back up anything you say when asked. That shows how much your comments are worth when you have dick to back it up.

Sean	11-16-2006 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 11332340)

Can someone sumarize whats been going on in this thread for those of us who don't want to read 5 pages worth of replies?
WG

the fag boyalley said that will76 is doing all of this for self promotion.

lars and i have been asking will76 over and over why he is not pulling
his traffic from clickcash.

will76 is getting really pissy and saying that clickcash is still working
on not accepting adware traffic.

boyalley is really funny

Xenophage

11-16-2006 11:28 PM

god I always thought will was a man of his word but now I see the truth I am so dissapointed. He is just a greedy bastard who has an agenda. when confronted witht eh fact that ifriends is buying adware from sango he does nothing but make excuses, after a month of bashing our company for the same precitces. Put up or shit up will !

will76

11-16-2006 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucky1 (Post 11331471)

BoyAlley it really sucks to see you post this. You have proven that you have a lot of pull and are the kind of person that can raise awareness about a problem. That?s exactly the kind of person that could help make people aware of what is really happening.

Here is my thinking on this issue. I don't know Will or Lars personally, but I think I know enough to have an educated opinion. Will said that he saw zango in action and what it was doing. If I am correct Will makes over 7 figures a year as an affiliate for ifriends. After seeing Zango in action and then hearing how many users they have, Will was upset that he was loosing a nice amount of money. Now to someone making a thousand dollars a year the small percentage of surfers using zango would probably be very insignificant, but to someone making the kind of money Will makes, that loss is substantially higher.

If you were loosing thousands of dollars because someone was interfering with your traffic, and you knew it would just keep getting worse, what would you do about it?

I think Will had two option, join the darkside and use zango (probably very profitable for him, more so than making a stink about it on a board to try and "get more affiliates under him") or try to make enough noise that people would be outraged and try to stop zango.

Will chose option two and has not even mentioned Team Click Cash until other people bring it up.

What a lot of people don't realize is that the people who are dumb enough to install (aka get infected) with Zango are also the people that are too dumb to realize that they can get all the porn they want for free through p2p, torrents, ect. We are loosing are best customers if zango gets to them first.

With the continued growth of torrent sites, p2p networks, and the likes of Zango where will our industry be in a few years?

I think if Will took the time to improve his business instead of posting on GFY and researching Zango he would make more money. So the only reason I am left with is Will doesn't want to have people steal his hard earned traffic, and is willing to complain (and in some peoples opinion make an ass out of himself) in order to keep making money in this industry while still having morals and honesty.

The real sheep are the ones who let people steal from them and then laugh in their face.

that is 100% true and thank you for noticing. I am losing money on time i am spending on this. That is true. I am not making any money from what I am doing I am trying to protect my income. When I found about this the first person I went to was my sponsor, clickcash and discussed this with them. Then i came here to educate everyone else.

I just can not get over someone taking traffic from us and causing us to lose income and try to justify it. Lars has used every excuse in the book.

- Sex Search made me do it.
- It's just a pop up.
- It is legal.
- It is only a small amount of traffic.
- It's too expensive to sue and protect our trademark.

I can name 20 more he has said and point out the threads.

So when all of that fails he starts attacking my reason for posting.
- I am a sheep
- I am jealous of him.
- I am jealous that cams kicks ifriends ass
- I am trying to hurt his company
- I am trying to make affiliate sales
- I don't make any money and I lied about my income
- I am just trying to pump up my board persona.

Lar's how many fucking "reasons" are you going to try to come up with?

Jesus christ man, you are excuse #12 why what you are doing is ok and excuse number #8 what my intentions are for doing this. Trying to discredit me in an attempt to think the message wont be valid ? Throw enough bullshit at me and hope something sticks???

Why can't you see it for what it is and stop making fucking excuses.

Sean	11-16-2006 11:34 PM

will76:

you are still sending traffic to a company that supports adware.
pull your traffic or we know that its just about the dollar for you

will76

11-16-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331556)

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

LOL :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

heywood

11-16-2006 11:38 PM

how many fucking threads have been devoted to this?

http://www.oddpic.com/data/520/who-give-a-fuck.jpg

will76

11-16-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331556)

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

lol i think this needs to be said again:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331556)

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

ok everyone you need to read this again:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331556)

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

I keep reading this and i can't believe what i am seeing, does it still really say that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331556)

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

yes it does say that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 11331556)

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

Hey lars, let me pop up my window on top of 1/2% of your traffic, deal? Would you be ok with it if I did it to your traffic ? It's just a pop up :winkwink: LOL Deal ? come'on you doing it to everyone else, it's just 1/2% of your traffic let me do it to you. Surely you are ok with this, no biggie right, what a fucking idiot.

Andrew needs to take the keyboard away from you before you sink the company. :2 cents:

lucky1

11-16-2006 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 11332340)

Can someone sumarize whats been going on in this thread for those of us who don't want to read 5 pages worth of replies?
WG

AFF has been spinnig the shit out of this issue for a long time tonight. Just read the replies in this thread.

They have reduced a serious problem in the adult industry to a kindergarten argument.

What is important is getting to the bottom of the questions here https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=678133

RawAlex

11-16-2006 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11332432)

will76:

you are still sending traffic to a company that supports adware.
pull your traffic or we know that its just about the dollar for you

Sorry, yet to be proven, At this point, I wouldn't put it past certain people to pay for an ifriends popup on zango just long enough to get a screen shot.

The proof would be in some sort of longer term "every one can see it" situation. Heck, I could buy a popup of GFY over oprano... would that mean that GFY is supporting adware?

Finally, while all this pointing and laughing at will might make everyone feel better, it doesn't change what AFF has done or may be continuing to do. The "see, everyone else is doing it" excuse is seriously weak shit.

WiredGuy

11-16-2006 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11332373)

Thanks Sean.
WG

Sean	11-16-2006 11:45 PM

clickcash takes traffic from zango. why will you not stop supporting them?

teamclickcash right will?

im done for the night. will, you need to pull your traffic to ifriends and publicly state it, or you have no foot to stand on.

porn blogger

11-16-2006 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11330921)

Sorry I had balls stuck in my throat. :Oh crap

:winkwink: sorry about that.

Sean	11-16-2006 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 11332478)

Thanks Sean.
WG

bummed that i didnt get to see you in LA. its always good to see you.
guess that it will wait for vegas

will76

11-16-2006 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 11331632)

I contacted will months ago and he never even replied.

I think boyalley doesn't even know what he is talking about. Maybe should start hitting the keywords "josh tucker", "alex dark", "boyalley" etc hard so every visitor of his sites get an adware driven pop-over going to badpuppy or something like that.

Thank you for posting and sorry I never got back to you. I am an asshole for not getting back to people and there are probably dozens of people who contacted me for help the last year and I have been so set back with the hurricane and trying to keep my stuff going plus a lot of off line business i am into ( that code for watching tv and drinking beer lars since you know i am broke and just pumping myself up:2 cents: ) Now on top of all my own businesses that I need to maintain I am spending a lot of time on this stuff.

Again I am truely sorry for the people I have not gotten back to who have contacted me about TCC over the last year (post Katrina).

Pretty much blows up the whole bull shit allogations that I am here trying to get affiliate to signup under me when i turn them away :warning

WiredGuy

11-16-2006 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 11332492)

bummed that i didnt get to see you in LA. its always good to see you.
guess that it will wait for vegas

Yup, I have a feeling you'll see me more at mainstream shows as well, the business opportunities there are awesome. Always great to see you too ;)
WG

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