TrafficHog = Lars :boyalley

I also think that this wont stop the greedy, shady fucks that use these tactics but it does help bring awarness to the webmasters of sites who are being targeted so they can block it. Now that Im all for..:thumbsup

Why did Will come out against one person who seems to be his competition? Why did Will not check his own company for some of the largest Adware usage of a company? Why did will and others make a list of companies supporting adware when none of the companies were alerted of the accounts linked to adware to given a chance to remove them while Will is able to remove links all day long from Adware to ClickCash with it not being supportive of Zango?? Why? Why did Will, only just a few days ago, remove long standing links from Adware and is able to say he doesn't support adware when all along.... during the time if his bitching... adware links from Zango and MANY other adware companies have been making ClickCash money?

How come Will would rather build up ZangoCash.com and MetricsDirect.com then to actually combat something he thinks is hurting people? What's his motive? I would say VANITY! This duchebag has never owned a real website and makes his money off other people's hard work. He is an affiliate referral.... That's it... He is only bitching to bring his status up..

Whatever his intentions are he has given zangocash.com a HUGE amount of publicity and he is only worsening any problem he thought was there while all along ClickCash was using Zango and many others to make money.

thats not true. his Bro Status has been fully revoked. its gone. he is not a Bro... he will not respond as a Bro... no one will be calling him Bro... he will post no Bro threads with cool Bro cars, nice Bro homes and hot Bro chicks or cool Bro vacation pics.


TRAFFICHOG = Lars.

my god you are retarded. building on a total and complete fucking meltdown you've had that you only make worse and worse and worse.

Did you read that part or just skip the whole issue like Will did with ClickCash before he went on his crusade.

Not Lars....
Although I wish. Just an observer wondering if people other than dumb followers(sheep) understand what's really going on here.

He was never in "bro" status. LOL. Will has never met any other webmasters face to face. Never goes to shows. Never actually network and has to deal with people he crusades against.

as i recall.... he called everyone out that he found. you seem to be the only one that "skipped the whole issue" and seem to be real interested in making the entire conversation about something else.



the refresher course:


Will76 - affiliate
AFF/Cams = robbing affiliates

ClickCash = terminated any relationship with zango via affiliates or otherwise
AFF/Cams = said "fuck you webmasters"

two different things entirely

I'll assume you aren't talking about all the AFF apologists that pop up here and there.

Ok... The ones he called out....Other than the ones that admitted they buy the traffic. Do they get a free hall pass too? Shouldn't have Will cleaned his whole house Months before he bashes on other companies? Why did Will's TeamClickCash have HUGE ties with Zango before just a days ago and not before he went on his crusade? What is ClickCash's real position on Adware?

Clickcash adopted an official position on adware. They are against it... and for affiliates

Cams/AFF adopted a position on adware... They are for it and against affiliates.





interesting, only Lars has been referring to it as "adware"

dipshit.

Lars, can you please stop stealing traffic.

Traffichog = Lars I am convinced. His same dumb arguments. Actually tomorrow I will check on this but I think one of these comments he made was word for word what Lars has posted.

hey is this me, or is this fake nic trying to make this thread about me. You can ask him any question you want, he replies, But Will.... Well Will... Why did Will...

I think I have a stalker. I wish I had a dollar for how many times he said my name.

Don't feed the trolls. Anyone that can believe that Zango's traffic is . 05% US based traffic when they only really pay for us traffic is a moron.

Zango .05% US TRAFFIC LMAO LOLOLOL

Good night lars.

KEEP THE THREAD ON TRACK. DONT LET THE TROLL SPIN IT.

Ok I take the bait. How do you know if I went to any shows or not. Which shows were you at ?

Bump for your answers.

BTW for those of you wondering. I have gone to 3 shows. New Orleans 2000 Miami 2003 Miami 2006 Unless I have reason (other then to hang out with the bros ;) I don't go to a show every year.

But in this case the sheep want the original fucking questions asked answered.

Sly, by openly supporting will76, you look like a troll and you lose 7% of GFY Q-factor in the eyes of some established people....

:1orglaugh

Thank God I have yet to support Will! This thread smells.

Still no answer?
:disgust

What you haven't noticed other (video and dating) sites joining in this discussion? Some have stayed silent. Some have declared opposition to scumware. Lars is the only spokesperson for a sponsor who has basically told affiliates they do not oppose scumware: so who else should we come out against?

More spin. iFriends and scumware were linked right at the beginning of the discussion on this issue. Will stated early on that he would be contacting them. The worst you can say is that iFriends needed to be alerted at all and that they could have reacted more quickly.

1. Why shouldn't professional sponsors be expected to police their own traffic?

2. If you accurately report on a given day that a sponsor is appearing in scumware popups, on that day the sponsor in question is - whether directly or indirectly - supporting scumware. How naive do you expect everyone to be: all these weeks later and still only a small proportion of sponsors have spoken up. Gamma, Platinum Bucks, Bang Bros, Nasty Dollars, SexSearch, etc., etc... just how long do you think they should have in which to respond?

So according to you we should all creep quietly away and handle this alone, leaving everyone else in the dark? For myself, I mailed the FTC the week after they reached a settlement with Zango; I am in the process of updating all my sites, removing sponsors who support scumware as I go and installing htaccess mods etc. But I'm damned if I'm going to keep quiet so long as the cowboys in this industry keep undermining it for their own short-term gain.

I don't care whether you are Lars or some other clown hiding behind a fake nickname. All that fools like you do, attempting to turn this into a Will vs Lars drama with a bunch of transparent BS, is keep the topic on the front page here. If that is what you want, keep going: there are dozens of people willing to pitch in to "balance" such crap.

i just thought this thread could use a little direction back on course.

I have a feeling this thread isnt going away

:pimp ....

He's saying that 1 in every 2000 US surfers has Zango installed.

For me it is 4% as I target the keywords used by AFF etc.

Traffichog, Lars, Liar whatever you want to call yourself today, the general public wants answers for the AFF/Cams cheating, thieving acts they are pulling. At this time nobody gives a rats ass about you trying to spin this to a will76 issue, that can be done in a separate thread at a spearate time. As of right now Legendary Liar, Sagi the troll have been caught and proven to be this years #1 cheaters and thieves, and the public want's:2 cents: answers now!!!

very good answers so far....

Of course I meant 4% of the surfers visiting my domains. Sorry.

The USA population just surpased 300 million. Zango clains to have 20 million active users. Not all of the 20 million is US users but most of them have to be since Zango only really pays on US installs. I am sure everyone installing it is targeting US traffic. Only about 200 million of the US population gets online (from shit i read).

I would say that more like 10% of the US computers have zango on it. However if you get traffic from around the world, the percentage of people with it that hit your sites will be lower then that.

bump for your answers....

everything going downhill...

Try Adult Dating Dollars, No Zango just great conversions at $40 per trial join.

I have been busy and have not had the time to check this thread for a couple more days. I hoped to find the answers that I was looking for, but instead I come back and find this shit.

Lets get one thing straight I could care less about any other company besides AFF/Cams right now. I said before that since they are #1 and have admitted to directly purchasing traffic from Zango that they must take the first hit. If AFF/Cams ever stop directly supporting zango I will congratulate them and move on to the next company that supports zango. This is not personal. I don't want to see any harm come to Lars or him to go broke. I just want AFF/Cams to stop using zango and other "scumware".

I am also aware that zango is not the only company out there that does this shit. I am of the opinion that zango should be dealt with first and when they stop taking money out of the pockets of hard working webmasters (and even the shady/dishonest webmasters too) then I will move on to the next company.

Someone (I won't mention any names) came into my thread (yes mine not Will's) and tried to start up the spin machine once again. I addressed that in the beginning of my original post. I said that people have turned this whole issue into a kindergarten argument and avoided the important questions. That is why I posted serious questions I would like answers to.

I still haven't got my questions answered. All I have gotten is silence from the people who I want to hear from, and bullshit spin from someone who should stay the fuck out of my thread.

Something to think about.....
Why will Aff/Cams/Lars not answer these questions? They are straight forward and serious.

We all know the people you want answers from will not show up and post UNLESS it will help them to do so. Say Lars and crew found out that you sent traffic to sexsearch. THEN they would come here and post up a storm. They wouldn't be responding to your questions but they would be trying to smear you.
That is what they did with me. Over the last 2 months Lars has made a hand full of posts about zango. 1 was the "possition statement" which his lawyer wrote. Two or three times he made posts that insulted everyone else. He made about a dozen posts making excuses why they "had" to use zango. In the thread where he was trying to bash me, he posted more times then all of those others times over the previous 6 weeks combined. An all out assault from him and his employees responding to the zango issue by trying to attack me because they said clickcash was doing it. Now it's been a week, and they haven't posted at all.

If they show up here (and I think they have under a fake nic) it is not going to be to answer questions but to either attack you, discredit you, or spin the whole thread.

Bump again for attention

We are talking about AFF - Zango, TrafficHog = AFF Support!

We have AFF related keywords, 4% of our visitors are Zango infected.
Now I redirect them to a special account, and as one can image, it is high quality traffic with high sign-up ratio! Stolen by AFF before and still stolen from those not having protext script installed. Think of it! You must protect yourself against your own sponsor!!!!

Theft is theft, don't you try to try to excuse yourselves!

:mad: :mad:

I'll give AFF/Cams the benefit of the doubt that they didn't see these questions and give them another chance to answer them.

it's fucking cold out!

Zango sucks. Period.

maybe you should start a thread like marc did with his hoes.com stats. Show AFF #1 and Cams #2 and you will have the whole AFF crew posting in that thread. Then there would be no way they could miss your questions :winkwink:

true .

Still no answers?

I am beginning to think that if AFF/Cams answers these questions it will not make them look good. Maybe that is why they aren't answering them.

I could be wrong though.
Hopefully they will answer these questions so I can officially know that they aren't stealing traffic.

:pimp ,,,,