Seems like someone is trying to divert the attention away from the questios that were orginally posted. Here is another bump to keep the thread on track.

You are right. You are totally trying to divert attention away from questions that were asked. Come on Will... answer the questions.....



Please answer the questions...... Please just one answer...

Im glad to see these things come to light and debated on the boards.. Threw my years of doing this I've seen these scams come and go.. Webmasters have been getting ripped off ever since I started. I love seeing these guys get dragged threw the mud. LOVE IT! The word travels much faster these days..

Bumb for the person who thinks this thread doesn't want to get bumped!

We just need to get rid of the ClickCash Zango supporters and we are good.

here I will expose you for the fake nic fraud you are.

If you really want me to answer questions. Use the copy paste function and start a new thread. I will answer any question you want then.

Deal ? Failure to do so will expose your agenda.

If anyone thinks this fake fuck has any validity start a new thread and I will answer any questions you may have.

just to put the focus back on why this thread was started.

OK, I totally agree that if they are in fear of losing their processing and thus business, that justifies them doing what they have to that is still legal to stay afloat.

But, that doesn't seem plausible given what else they have said, like it represents such a small percentage of traffic...(if they are on verge of losing their ability to process if they lose zango signups then I would have no problem with them lying to hide this fact to protect their company's lifeline).

If they need zango to stay compliant with visa, that is deeply disturbing to affiliates and clients i imagine and what about targetting their competitors and all the other stuff that doesn't support your contentions.

Thanks for the bumb :thumbsup

Oooppps. Why start a new thread???? You seem to jump in other theads that have no want for you..... Please answer the question.... Why would you want me out of this thread??? Do you have an alterior motive for getting me out of this thread??? Maybe because some people are seeing the light???

Buying contexual marketing from adware companies has been a practise of some of the largest companies on the Internet today for many years past. If you aren't aware it is one of the BIGGEST advertising mediums there is. Now you expect everyone to all of a sudden stop and lose that revenue stream all because one person got all hot an bothered. It's been an acceptable traffic medium for many years now undergoing many laws mandating certain requirements that Zango seems to be following. Will76 didn't even check his own programs use of Zango which has been IMMENSE for the last 4 years. This is a serious concern to anyone who wants to know Will76's true vendetta. let's see ClickCash against AFF? Hmm........

Come on... let's keep this thread on track..... Does Will have a different agenda then we think? Did ClickCash have TONS of Zango traffic going to it up to just a few days ago???? Yes... People ... Wake up....

thanks for proving my point of why you dont want to start a new thread.

Please bump this thread a couple times tonight and I will be back in the morning to bump it some more ;)

Actually. New policy. I am not going to reply to fake nicks any more. If you want answers log in with your REAL name, pussy.

ok... so why doesn't AFF/cams.com stop now too? ClickCash seems to be the better company and immune to all the excuses that AFF/Cams has. are you saying that ClickCash is just a more stable and solid company?


weird.

also, how do you reconcile these three arguments?

- "its a very small percentage of traffic.. less than .05%"
and
- "we have to do it to maintain the size of our member base"
and
- "if we don't do it, we can lose our merchant account"

Everytime you bring it all back to it being just a vendetta of Will comes across to me as raising a red herring to cloud the realities of the issue. Worse, chalking it up as just another contextual ad buy is disingenuous to the webmaster community who easily saw through the difference of Guba from newsgroups just like they distinguish what zango is to them here from other contextual advertising.

INMO.... It doesn't represent a small % of their traffic and their traffic is growing because of Will76. Look at alexa's ranking for zangocash.com
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?u=zan...=1&h=300&w=500
He is building their traffic up HUGE!!!! Will, can I hire you for some promotions I am doing?

On the other hand it appears cams.com is still growing...
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?u=cam...=1&h=300&w=500


So what is Will76 actually doing? Helping Zango? Promoting Zango? How many GFY'ers didn't know about Zangocash.com or MetricsDirect.com that are now in the now and using them? Look at the charts I posted and you tell me what you think is happening.

It's common knowledge that Zango is 0.05% of the US surfers. Then, you take the popups, which don't occur every site you browse, that are only clicked on 15% of the time. In the end you are looking an EXTREMELEY small amount..

I am not AFF. I don't know if they have a problem with their database and chargebacks. Check with them.

I have a hard time believing this is due to Will's threads on gfy.
:error

ok... i accept your statements.


so....

1) it has no direct effect on user levels since its basically an irrelevant amount of traffic.

2) it has no consequences on the merchant account and processing since normal fluctuations are such that not having zango traffic wouldn't even register

3) its apparently not enough worth stealing to begin with.


so, lets take the time to examine the arguments for it based on your statements.

1)......uhmm.... hm...........

TrafficHog = Lars :boyalley

I also think that this wont stop the greedy, shady fucks that use these tactics but it does help bring awarness to the webmasters of sites who are being targeted so they can block it. Now that Im all for..:thumbsup

Why did Will come out against one person who seems to be his competition? Why did Will not check his own company for some of the largest Adware usage of a company? Why did will and others make a list of companies supporting adware when none of the companies were alerted of the accounts linked to adware to given a chance to remove them while Will is able to remove links all day long from Adware to ClickCash with it not being supportive of Zango?? Why? Why did Will, only just a few days ago, remove long standing links from Adware and is able to say he doesn't support adware when all along.... during the time if his bitching... adware links from Zango and MANY other adware companies have been making ClickCash money?

How come Will would rather build up ZangoCash.com and MetricsDirect.com then to actually combat something he thinks is hurting people? What's his motive? I would say VANITY! This duchebag has never owned a real website and makes his money off other people's hard work. He is an affiliate referral.... That's it... He is only bitching to bring his status up..

Whatever his intentions are he has given zangocash.com a HUGE amount of publicity and he is only worsening any problem he thought was there while all along ClickCash was using Zango and many others to make money.

thats not true. his Bro Status has been fully revoked. its gone. he is not a Bro... he will not respond as a Bro... no one will be calling him Bro... he will post no Bro threads with cool Bro cars, nice Bro homes and hot Bro chicks or cool Bro vacation pics.


TRAFFICHOG = Lars.

my god you are retarded. building on a total and complete fucking meltdown you've had that you only make worse and worse and worse.

Did you read that part or just skip the whole issue like Will did with ClickCash before he went on his crusade.

Not Lars....
Although I wish. Just an observer wondering if people other than dumb followers(sheep) understand what's really going on here.

He was never in "bro" status. LOL. Will has never met any other webmasters face to face. Never goes to shows. Never actually network and has to deal with people he crusades against.

as i recall.... he called everyone out that he found. you seem to be the only one that "skipped the whole issue" and seem to be real interested in making the entire conversation about something else.



the refresher course:


Will76 - affiliate
AFF/Cams = robbing affiliates

ClickCash = terminated any relationship with zango via affiliates or otherwise
AFF/Cams = said "fuck you webmasters"

two different things entirely

I'll assume you aren't talking about all the AFF apologists that pop up here and there.

Ok... The ones he called out....Other than the ones that admitted they buy the traffic. Do they get a free hall pass too? Shouldn't have Will cleaned his whole house Months before he bashes on other companies? Why did Will's TeamClickCash have HUGE ties with Zango before just a days ago and not before he went on his crusade? What is ClickCash's real position on Adware?

Clickcash adopted an official position on adware. They are against it... and for affiliates

Cams/AFF adopted a position on adware... They are for it and against affiliates.





interesting, only Lars has been referring to it as "adware"

dipshit.

Lars, can you please stop stealing traffic.

Traffichog = Lars I am convinced. His same dumb arguments. Actually tomorrow I will check on this but I think one of these comments he made was word for word what Lars has posted.

hey is this me, or is this fake nic trying to make this thread about me. You can ask him any question you want, he replies, But Will.... Well Will... Why did Will...

I think I have a stalker. I wish I had a dollar for how many times he said my name.

Don't feed the trolls. Anyone that can believe that Zango's traffic is . 05% US based traffic when they only really pay for us traffic is a moron.

Zango .05% US TRAFFIC LMAO LOLOLOL

Good night lars.

KEEP THE THREAD ON TRACK. DONT LET THE TROLL SPIN IT.

Ok I take the bait. How do you know if I went to any shows or not. Which shows were you at ?

Bump for your answers.

BTW for those of you wondering. I have gone to 3 shows. New Orleans 2000 Miami 2003 Miami 2006 Unless I have reason (other then to hang out with the bros ;) I don't go to a show every year.

But in this case the sheep want the original fucking questions asked answered.