Sly, by openly supporting will76, you look like a troll and you lose 7% of GFY Q-factor in the eyes of some established people....

:1orglaugh

Thank God I have yet to support Will! This thread smells.

Still no answer?
:disgust

What you haven't noticed other (video and dating) sites joining in this discussion? Some have stayed silent. Some have declared opposition to scumware. Lars is the only spokesperson for a sponsor who has basically told affiliates they do not oppose scumware: so who else should we come out against?

More spin. iFriends and scumware were linked right at the beginning of the discussion on this issue. Will stated early on that he would be contacting them. The worst you can say is that iFriends needed to be alerted at all and that they could have reacted more quickly.

1. Why shouldn't professional sponsors be expected to police their own traffic?

2. If you accurately report on a given day that a sponsor is appearing in scumware popups, on that day the sponsor in question is - whether directly or indirectly - supporting scumware. How naive do you expect everyone to be: all these weeks later and still only a small proportion of sponsors have spoken up. Gamma, Platinum Bucks, Bang Bros, Nasty Dollars, SexSearch, etc., etc... just how long do you think they should have in which to respond?

So according to you we should all creep quietly away and handle this alone, leaving everyone else in the dark? For myself, I mailed the FTC the week after they reached a settlement with Zango; I am in the process of updating all my sites, removing sponsors who support scumware as I go and installing htaccess mods etc. But I'm damned if I'm going to keep quiet so long as the cowboys in this industry keep undermining it for their own short-term gain.

I don't care whether you are Lars or some other clown hiding behind a fake nickname. All that fools like you do, attempting to turn this into a Will vs Lars drama with a bunch of transparent BS, is keep the topic on the front page here. If that is what you want, keep going: there are dozens of people willing to pitch in to "balance" such crap.

i just thought this thread could use a little direction back on course.

I have a feeling this thread isnt going away

:pimp ....

He's saying that 1 in every 2000 US surfers has Zango installed.

For me it is 4% as I target the keywords used by AFF etc.

Traffichog, Lars, Liar whatever you want to call yourself today, the general public wants answers for the AFF/Cams cheating, thieving acts they are pulling. At this time nobody gives a rats ass about you trying to spin this to a will76 issue, that can be done in a separate thread at a spearate time. As of right now Legendary Liar, Sagi the troll have been caught and proven to be this years #1 cheaters and thieves, and the public want's:2 cents: answers now!!!

very good answers so far....

Of course I meant 4% of the surfers visiting my domains. Sorry.

The USA population just surpased 300 million. Zango clains to have 20 million active users. Not all of the 20 million is US users but most of them have to be since Zango only really pays on US installs. I am sure everyone installing it is targeting US traffic. Only about 200 million of the US population gets online (from shit i read).

I would say that more like 10% of the US computers have zango on it. However if you get traffic from around the world, the percentage of people with it that hit your sites will be lower then that.

bump for your answers....

everything going downhill...

Try Adult Dating Dollars, No Zango just great conversions at $40 per trial join.

I have been busy and have not had the time to check this thread for a couple more days. I hoped to find the answers that I was looking for, but instead I come back and find this shit.

Lets get one thing straight I could care less about any other company besides AFF/Cams right now. I said before that since they are #1 and have admitted to directly purchasing traffic from Zango that they must take the first hit. If AFF/Cams ever stop directly supporting zango I will congratulate them and move on to the next company that supports zango. This is not personal. I don't want to see any harm come to Lars or him to go broke. I just want AFF/Cams to stop using zango and other "scumware".

I am also aware that zango is not the only company out there that does this shit. I am of the opinion that zango should be dealt with first and when they stop taking money out of the pockets of hard working webmasters (and even the shady/dishonest webmasters too) then I will move on to the next company.

Someone (I won't mention any names) came into my thread (yes mine not Will's) and tried to start up the spin machine once again. I addressed that in the beginning of my original post. I said that people have turned this whole issue into a kindergarten argument and avoided the important questions. That is why I posted serious questions I would like answers to.

I still haven't got my questions answered. All I have gotten is silence from the people who I want to hear from, and bullshit spin from someone who should stay the fuck out of my thread.

Something to think about.....
Why will Aff/Cams/Lars not answer these questions? They are straight forward and serious.

We all know the people you want answers from will not show up and post UNLESS it will help them to do so. Say Lars and crew found out that you sent traffic to sexsearch. THEN they would come here and post up a storm. They wouldn't be responding to your questions but they would be trying to smear you.
That is what they did with me. Over the last 2 months Lars has made a hand full of posts about zango. 1 was the "possition statement" which his lawyer wrote. Two or three times he made posts that insulted everyone else. He made about a dozen posts making excuses why they "had" to use zango. In the thread where he was trying to bash me, he posted more times then all of those others times over the previous 6 weeks combined. An all out assault from him and his employees responding to the zango issue by trying to attack me because they said clickcash was doing it. Now it's been a week, and they haven't posted at all.

If they show up here (and I think they have under a fake nic) it is not going to be to answer questions but to either attack you, discredit you, or spin the whole thread.

Bump again for attention

We are talking about AFF - Zango, TrafficHog = AFF Support!

We have AFF related keywords, 4% of our visitors are Zango infected.
Now I redirect them to a special account, and as one can image, it is high quality traffic with high sign-up ratio! Stolen by AFF before and still stolen from those not having protext script installed. Think of it! You must protect yourself against your own sponsor!!!!

Theft is theft, don't you try to try to excuse yourselves!

:mad: :mad:

I'll give AFF/Cams the benefit of the doubt that they didn't see these questions and give them another chance to answer them.

it's fucking cold out!

Zango sucks. Period.

maybe you should start a thread like marc did with his hoes.com stats. Show AFF #1 and Cams #2 and you will have the whole AFF crew posting in that thread. Then there would be no way they could miss your questions :winkwink:

true .

Still no answers?

I am beginning to think that if AFF/Cams answers these questions it will not make them look good. Maybe that is why they aren't answering them.

I could be wrong though.
Hopefully they will answer these questions so I can officially know that they aren't stealing traffic.

:pimp ,,,,