address this: :love2suck

In theory there's no practical reason to have more than one language on the planet. Then nothing would have to be translated, ever. Think of the money that would be saved! Might as well have one religion, too.

It's nice to accomodate different groups within different countries. Immigration happens. Whether you like it or not, Spanish is growing a lot in the US, and people will have to learn it. That shouldn't be discouraged, for the sake of practicality. The numerous advantages to learning more languages should be encouraged.

Sounds like a great political diplomacy move on the part of the Harper government - it'll most likely prevent another separatist referendum from happening during his time at the wheel.

Kinda like stroking a cranky iguana the right way so he doesn't eat your houseplants.

But he only said Quebeckers are a nation within the Canadian entity, not an independant Nation. Just like first peoples are a nation.

Ah, so we should learn new languages to accommodate people coming to us. I see.

Well, I disagree. But I see you guys have both English and French as official languages, another reason Canada roxers!

You love to suck cock? Hey we ARE NOT that different, you were right :)

The problem that Quebec has is more political than just the language...I do not believe that it is fair to just insult Quebecers and just call them babies. I do not believe that Quebec should seperate from Canada but there is more to it...

"The idea of sovereignty for Quebec is based, according to its proponents, on historical and sociological evidence that Quebecers are a people and a political nation, that they have democratic control over a state of their own, but that inside the Canadian federation as it currently stands, this state does not have the constitutional powers which the Quebec government needs to be the effective national government of Quebecers. Within Canada, the policies of the government of Quebec may occasionally be in conflict with the policies of the federal government, however, this situation is not unique to Quebec and occurs at times with other provinces."

Ya and they refuse to speak english to you even if they know how. It's like being English is a disease and they look down their noses at you. Not ALL Quebecers, I must say but a good majority think their shit don't stink :)

Well in this very thread I was told the States suck because we have only one official language and ask that people know English when visiting, lol. Maybe some day I'll understand, today isn't that day.

I will tell you something; I have more anglo friends then francophone friends and I havent seen any francophones acting that way and I certainly never acted that way : although, I have often seen american or anglo-canadians coming in Quebec and pointing out my accent as I was speaking English to them when everybody else did not, and act extremely rude and mean about it as if we have to speak impeccable English even if it is not my first language. And not to mention the fact that these same ppl will not do one effort to speak more slowly to a person that does NOT understand English (because there IS ppl who doesnt speak it). When I speak in french to an anglophone I dont laugh at the way they have an accent and I dont speak too fast and expect them to understand whatever i say in slang. Alot of anglophones make you feel like an idiot because you make an effort to speak their language while they're in a FRENCH province and THEY should make the effort to speak yours. Sorry but that's just stupid and way too common.

Alright, but when the other provinces have a conflict with the policies of government, they don't push for referrendums and try to tear the country apart. I'd say that the response to the stimulus is a TAD extreme, no? :P

States don't suck for being monolingual. They suck for being proudly monolingual, in stubborn defiance of other languages. Learning new languages is a good thing. And people should try to learn English before visiting, sure, just like you said you'd do the same with Spanish. Nothing wrong with wanting that.

I was born and raised in Calgary, and I love it there, but this is a big country and there's more to it than Calgary. You should chill the fuck out dude, seriously. You are as bad as they are.

i have been to calgary. not just to watch your stampede either, which was lots of fun.

not true... but it makes the debate so justified....:1orglaugh

and most of them are well adjusted, unlike you.,

PLease let me add one thing.....



BULLSHIT


That is all:disgust

First of all, the reason why I think your statements are ignorant is that NOT ALL Quebecers think the same way and if they did (like you are suggesting), we would be seperated by now.

Second, seperation was clearly not the first solution that Quebec came up with. Obviously, this is a bigger problem than you think!!!

"Various attempts at reforming the federal system of Canada have thus far failed due to the conflicting interests between the majority of Quebecers and the majority of other Canadians"

Or a few Germans :1orglaugh

what are the interests of Quebecers that are so incompatible with the interests of Canada?

Excuse me, do you live here? Where can you testify about what I jsut said? I work EVERYDAY with anglophone ppl and I am exposed to this phenomenon on a daily basis. Dont tell me that what I live everyday is bullshit because you dont know. We are known as very welcoming to any culture and Montreal in particular is a very cosmopolite city. I can give you an example of this happening to me not later then last weekend with a client from vancouver who insulted me in my OWN HOUSE as he was being a guest because of my first language.

I lived in Canada and experienced Quebec first hand so don't even try to gloss over the the fact the the French are rude yes rude. I experienced the going to a major department store in Montreal and being from the West they would not take the time to help or assist in anyway. You want to guess why they wouldn't?


Because I didn't speak French and they refused to speak English.


"Excuse me, do you live here?" Quebec is one of the reasons I don live there anymore:thumbsup

Actually I posted earlier that I realized not all were like that, please take this as more of a generality as opposed to a stereotype. I'm referring to seperatists, the hardcore ones who won't give up.

OK I just ordered some wings and FRITES SAUCE , at least french people can do one thing right. That's mixing some fries up with some nice hot gravy, if you keep it simple with them they are really nice people.

They do a lot of things right. They have a rich culture, a beautiful language, and a bit of a penchant for arguing :) It's just unfortunate that some hardliners take it to mean that they can't be a part of the bigger picture.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=968332188492

That's a good article, btw.

Right, that is why our driving tests are put out in about 4 or 5 languages, and every call distribution recording starts off with, "For English, press 1."

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

This just remind me of a friend of mine who was working in the hasidic jew quarter of the city saying how jews were rude and stuff. Ofcourse there are rude ppl; i go to stores and get ignored as much as any of you guys, and OFCOURSE a French person that cannot speak english cannot serve you well. Living in Quebec, how come you didnt have learned the basics to be served in French? That doesnt make sense to me. I went to Portugal once and experimented the same thing; I couldnt speak Portugese; they couldnt speak french, english or even spanish... I worked my way out anyway, but I find it pretty shameful that living in a french province you didnt even have the guts of trying to adapt the the first language that is spoken there by most ppl. That just shows how rude YOU are. There is rude ppl worldwide. Its just easy to put a tag on them when they are different then you and you're too lazy to make your own effort. :2 cents: I know more quebeckers that can speak english with tourists then anglos that even try to speak french to us when they visit. Now tell me the logic in this?

The fact that you quoted this gives your argument less steam since it appears you can not come up with your own thoughts.

Every country has its official languages. This is a government-defined thing. USA has one official language. Its official language is English. That one language is its official language. Even if people incorporate other languages into their business, the US is still officially an English-speaking country.

I would hardly call the language/accent beautiful. When I hear french people talking with the LA, OSTI, CRISSE, their accent is quite annoying. It's very loud and they scream at each other from like 2 feet away. It gives me a headache.

I wanted to state facts instead of a opinion. You can find this quote here

http://www.answers.com/topic/quebec-...ignty-movement

wait until quebecers hear that they aren't the second most popular language.. someone has to correct that

ummm, doesn't the opening sentence (The idea of sovereignty for Quebec is based, according to its proponents, . . ) make it an opinion?

Bingo.

Hey, if the indians are canada's "First nation" as they're refered to, what will the French Quebecers be.... Second nation? :D

first they make you change the canadian flag because it offends them, and now they dont even want to be part of your country :1orglaugh

never give the french an inch

lol, i think the Vikings should get second billing. :winkwink:

Have you been to some other Euro countries?

not sure how i feel about this yet...feels weird even thought nothing has changed

its probably just your boxers chafing. :winkwink:

Everyone in Montreal know you don't go to a major department store if you want to be pampered. It as nothing to do with language.