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DaddyHalbucks 11-24-2006 12:24 PM

If you have proof, post it. If not, shut up.

monro 11-24-2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11384026)
This thread should have a question mark not an exclamation point..

As much as i hate whats going on recently, i think its doing a disservice by diluting the issue with unfounded allegations..

Unfounded allegations?
The thread title is ok. LegendaryLars has admitted here that that AFF take a part ( shaving ) of our affiliate share by using Zango.

The title of this thread is 100% ok. You can call it outside or inside shaving. The result is the same, stealing money. But for the first time the shaving can be proved!

Dirty Dane 11-24-2006 12:26 PM

How about proofs?

monro 11-24-2006 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 11384871)
If you have proof, post it. If not, shut up.

Do you have an ad from Zango on your site as well? Beside AFF I mean?

monro 11-24-2006 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 11384881)
How about proofs?

The proof is LegendarLars own statement. What do you need more?

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monro 11-25-2006 12:21 AM


:mad:

Alky 11-25-2006 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11383461)
Okay, Alexa came back:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...iendfinder.com

3 month rank 67, current 85 (same for the week average)... 25% drop

3 month reach: 9565 current 7600, about a 21% drop.

Considering that reach peaked out around 14,000 or so, 7600 is a pretty major drop off. Just as importantly, looking at the reach graph, you can see the drop off relative to Zango here and people indicating that they are removing AFF.

Actions = reactions.

just out of curiousity... what do you all think gave AFF that huge jump in late 2004? could it be hmmm... zango? i'm just taking a wild stab at that one :1orglaugh

Mr Pheer 11-25-2006 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11382139)
Where is Lars these days ?

I bet if he was up your ass, you'd know :2 cents:

s2kcord 11-25-2006 12:48 AM

Even if they do shave you still make more money with them over everybody else and thats all that matters.

monro 11-25-2006 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2kcord (Post 11388362)
Even if they do shave you still make more money with them over everybody else and thats all that matters.

Exactly what I where waiting for! People like you make shaving and thefts possible to go on with. Spineless cowards! You dont know the meaning of a honest deal?

:mad: :mad:

monro 11-25-2006 06:49 AM

Those defending AFF using Zango ( and other types of shaving I assume ) try to think! If you are not a criminal of course.
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A father (AFF) has a little daughter (affiliate) he rapes from time to time. Neighbors say; nothing to worry about, after all, he feeds her. And the daughter need a chastity belt (.htaccess) when at home.
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Doctor Dre 11-25-2006 06:52 AM

Lars is taking a public beating.

If a compagny is doing anything shady you always have to watch your back... I'm not saying that AFF shaves but I agree that you might have your reason to be suspicious the way everything about Zango was handled.

pocketkangaroo 11-25-2006 07:00 AM

If you are worried about shaving, run a test signup. I can't think of any major programs that have a problem with running test signups if you actually let them know afterwards.

monro 11-25-2006 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11389362)
If you are worried about shaving, run a test signup. I can't think of any major programs that have a problem with running test signups if you actually let them know afterwards.

If you trust your sponsor it should not be necessary to test. In this case, AFF admit shaving thru the Zango use. Behind our ( Affiliates ) backs. And lost all trust.
If you have many signups/day you can not test at AFF. It not possible to track an unique signup.

NinjaSteve 11-25-2006 08:28 AM

sig check!

will76 11-25-2006 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 11388341)
I bet if he was up your ass, you'd know :2 cents:

Well from what I heard about his weenee, I wouldn't be so sure about that. :1orglaugh

Trixxxia 11-25-2006 10:59 AM

So I've taken care of the Zango issue on all my domains - now I want to know what other systems or programs do I have to find a solution and redirect for. I'd rather go broke or redirect to the Jehovah's Witnesses than have someone take it from me/giving me what THEY or someone else decides I should credit for.

We can either list those systems here or you can email me at
cleanmycomp *[at]* gmail *[dot]* com

Thanks

pocketkangaroo 11-25-2006 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monro (Post 11389409)
If you trust your sponsor it should not be necessary to test. In this case, AFF admit shaving thru the Zango use. Behind our ( Affiliates ) backs. And lost all trust.
If you have many signups/day you can not test at AFF. It not possible to track an unique signup.

I don't trust any sponsor. I still think it comes down to promoting which company makes you the most money. AFF and Cams conversions are fairly poor compared to their competitors.

Kimo 11-25-2006 11:34 AM

fuck zango

crockett 11-25-2006 11:54 AM

I can't say if they shave or not.. However when I saw Lar's response to the whole zango ordeal. That and the fact even after he's been shown what zango does and how it's stealing from affiliates, he continues to use it..

Well let's just say I wouldn't put it past him to shave sales if he doesn't give a fuck about zango stealing sales from us.

cindyc 11-25-2006 07:57 PM

DatingGold.com doesn't allow spyware and I think Iwantu.com doesnt either.

E$_manager 11-25-2006 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 11383898)
how can you see by one's stats that a program is shaving or not? it's impossible to proof anything on the affiliate point of view.

But sometimes it is evident without proves.

TexasDreams 11-25-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monro (Post 11389317)
Those defending AFF using Zango ( and other types of shaving I assume ) try to think! If you are not a criminal of course.
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A father (AFF) has a little daughter (affiliate) he rapes from time to time. Neighbors say; nothing to worry about, after all, he feeds her. And the daughter need a chastity belt (.htaccess) when at home.
-----------

Accusations of shaving and theft with no proof. And then you are dumb enough to post this. Goodbye!

rollinthunder 12-09-2006 10:54 AM

Obviously AFF will not respond, what could they really say here?

Why should they, since they have their sheep here do all their dirty work?

The same people they fuck day in and day out praise them, great business!

They designed their system to report whatever numbers they want it to report. We have established that they are dishonest people to begin with that fuck affiliates by way of Zango.

I think it is reasonable to assume that if they thought they could get away with fucking affiliates by shaving, which they obviously can, they would.

Of course there is no 'proof', but I challenge them to provide member data, something that an affiliate can confirm when placing test orders.

Until then, I would have to assume the worst as they are run by scum bags and I would certainly not put 'shaving' past them.

rollinthunder 12-09-2006 11:20 AM

I think as affiliates we need to be proactive, not only outing the companies that are proven to shave but outing the companies that have un-auditable stats systems. This should be unacceptable to any affiliate.

LazyII 12-09-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollinthunder (Post 11494573)
Obviously AFF will not respond, what could they really say here?
Why should they, since they have their sheep here do all their dirty work?

Bravo! Still some people with courage around!

LazyII 12-09-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 11384871)
If you have proof, post it. If not, shut up.

Which kind of proof do you want? Please tell us.:helpme

Roald 12-09-2006 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasDreams (Post 11393549)
Accusations of shaving and theft with no proof. And then you are dumb enough to post this. Goodbye!

TD if you are such a big boy to ban this guy (even though his example was a bit harsh I agree) than please close the fucking thread too instead of keeping it up. Not?

CaptainHowdy 12-09-2006 12:52 PM

Best Month Ever !!!!!!!!!!!!

thaifan99 12-09-2006 03:27 PM

anyone using outpersonals check your raw/unique hits ( 1-2 days later)

20% of them seem to vanish after a day or so.

jayeff 12-09-2006 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 11495121)
Best Month Ever !!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that another of your ready-to-paste contributions to the board?

Lykos 12-09-2006 03:56 PM

ok cool.

Jarmusch 12-09-2006 04:17 PM

Someone got pwn3d.

cindyc 12-09-2006 06:41 PM

i guess zango could be considered a way of shaving..

rollinthunder 12-10-2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cindyc (Post 11496604)
i guess zango could be considered a way of shaving..


Also true.:thumbsup

rollinthunder 12-10-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 11384871)
If you have proof, post it. If not, shut up.

Unlike you, who has a financial incentive to keep your nick here, in order to peddle your overpriced domains, I don't really give a fuck if I get banned.

I think the mods are smart enough to see what is going on here. By banning me or closing this thread would be supporting the fucking of affiliates, who are the life blood of this forum, Adult.com and ultimately their own ass.

But continue to be a sheep, Lars thanks you from his beachside mansion, hopefully one day you might see the light.:thumbsup

rollinthunder 12-11-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11495874)
Why are you posting bullshit, you have no evidence of this and nothing to back up this statement. Yes they use Zango, yes the bring pop-ups over other peoples yes it is a shitty thing to do YES THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THIS.

You come speculating something and posting it as an affirmative statement. You are nothing more than a piece of shit.

ban.



You are just another sheep, broke like the rest.

Even with your peanut sized brain you can comprehend the fact that AFF is fucking you with the Zango bullshit.

However, you can't comprehend that they are most likely shaving straight up, since they provide no data to back up their sales and they are admitted cheats.:1orglaugh

rollinthunder 12-11-2006 02:51 PM

What incentive does AFF have not to shave since the sheep just assume that they don't?


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