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xcitecash 11-30-2006 06:50 AM

he can do what he wants..... if the Canadians and Mexicans dont want it expect a simple invasion over a few days while some US troops drive Hummers to both Capitals and claim "Mission Accomplished"

while Canadian/Mexican Insurgants fight small gun battles and blow shit up for 3-10 years afterwards

sounds like a plan

ForteCash 11-30-2006 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by xcitecash (Post 11420264)
he can do what he wants..... if the Canadians and Mexicans dont want it expect a simple invasion over a few days while some US troops drive Hummers to both Capitals and claim "Mission Accomplished"

while Canadian/Mexican Insurgants fight small gun battles and blow shit up for 3-10 years afterwards

sounds like a plan

:1orglaugh

Odin 11-30-2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluid (Post 11417858)
Wouldn't need to come to that.
Canada supplies the midwest with water, the eastern seaboard with power and the shipping lanes from alaska (oil) are within easy mining distance. And given the level of USA's overseas military commitment now, and the fact that they're losing two wars at the moment, and that china and korea would back canada just to see the USA fall flat, it would be very unwise for the states to alienate it's allies, risk it's oil/electric/water supply, or give korea and china ideas by moving on canada.

In addition, the USA would be turfed from NATO and the UN. Loans would be called, or denied and the US economy wouldn't be able to afford to roll out the tanks. If you can't pay/feed your soldiers you can't fight a war, and the US economy is so overstretched right now that without outside money they could not sustain that kind of action. And given that our land mass/climate is much the same type that the nazi's floundered in during world war 2 (with a much larger force I might add, and simpler equipment less prone to freezing solid) and the studies the US military did on the likelyhood of winning a land war in the USSR, I doubt they'd attempt it.

Not to mention, it's political suicide for the president that gives the ok for it.

That's the kind of war that could end without a single shot being fired.

It's amazing how weak and fragile some think the US is. Without the US the Canadian economy wouldn't exactly be in tip-top shape either. And don't you think within the first week the US would control all the strategically important assets in Canada? I hate neo-cons, but I also hate such idiotic leftist rambling. China wouldn't back anyone (in fact it would more likely back the US as their economy is very reliant on the US as well), North Korea doesn't have the ability to back anyone (California alone has more wealth than that shithole), and the South would back the USA before Canada (as would various other nations, such as Australia, the UK, etc). But in any event, I am quite sure they would much faster pull every last troop out of both Iraq and Afghanistan (not to mention the troops they have stationed in Germany, South Korea, etc) and let both fall to shit and start sending them into Canada in any such event to protect more important assets. But anyway, of course such a thing would never happen, there is no reason for it to. But just the fact that you have some deluded picture in your head that Canada could beat the USA in a war shows how much of an idiot you are.

TheLegacy 11-30-2006 07:54 AM

bush can dream all he wants - but there is no way in hell canada would consider joining america - we are brothers - but also realize that along with any financial benefits - we would also inherit all the negative shit that america is current going through.

Our political system is totally different and we would never agree to changing that after seeing the current problems in voting, the best that can hoped for is a more open policy on trading

yys 11-30-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief (Post 11420524)
It's amazing how weak and fragile some think the US is. Without the US the Canadian economy wouldn't exactly be in tip-top shape either. And don't you think within the first week the US would control all the strategically important assets in Canada? I hate neo-cons, but I also hate such idiotic leftist rambling. China wouldn't back anyone (in fact it would more likely back the US as their economy is very reliant on the US as well), North Korea doesn't have the ability to back anyone (California alone has more wealth than that shithole), and the South would back the USA before Canada (as would various other nations, such as Australia, the UK, etc). But in any event, I am quite sure they would much faster pull every last troop out of both Iraq and Afghanistan (not to mention the troops they have stationed in Germany, South Korea, etc) and let both fall to shit and start sending them into Canada in any such event to protect more important assets. But anyway, of course such a thing would never happen, there is no reason for it to. But just the fact that you have some deluded picture in your head that Canada could beat the USA in a war shows how much of an idiot you are.

Why would we have to outright beat the U.S.A. in a war.

You would think American's would see the folly of that argument.

czarina 11-30-2006 11:40 AM

that would be AWESOME!

LadyMischief 11-30-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ForteCash (Post 11414442)
You also have a neighbor that could make you their absolute bitch at the whim of our mad-men leaders :2 cents:

And as much as that's true, you also know it's true that would be the beginning of the end. The UN certainly wouldn't allow that to be swept under the rug like Iraq. Changing trade partners isn't anything worth invasion, and if that were to be the stance the US would take on it, it would be doomed to fail, even if they "succeeded".

LadyMischief 11-30-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief (Post 11420524)
It's amazing how weak and fragile some think the US is. Without the US the Canadian economy wouldn't exactly be in tip-top shape either. And don't you think within the first week the US would control all the strategically important assets in Canada? I hate neo-cons, but I also hate such idiotic leftist rambling. China wouldn't back anyone (in fact it would more likely back the US as their economy is very reliant on the US as well), North Korea doesn't have the ability to back anyone (California alone has more wealth than that shithole), and the South would back the USA before Canada (as would various other nations, such as Australia, the UK, etc). But in any event, I am quite sure they would much faster pull every last troop out of both Iraq and Afghanistan (not to mention the troops they have stationed in Germany, South Korea, etc) and let both fall to shit and start sending them into Canada in any such event to protect more important assets. But anyway, of course such a thing would never happen, there is no reason for it to. But just the fact that you have some deluded picture in your head that Canada could beat the USA in a war shows how much of an idiot you are.

Time to do a little research and realize that the political/economic alliances that once safeguarded the relationship have been eroded slowly and surely by the US president time and again. Nobody ever said Canada could beat the US in a war either. We wouldn't have to. The political/economonic/global climate would end that coup before it ever turned into anything much of anything. And IF in the EXTREMELY SLIM chance it was "successful", the global reprecussions would be catastrophic, not to mention there would be civil war in Canada. No way in hell Canadians would quietly submit to being "conquered". It's nice to think that war is as simple and easy as the actual killing itself, however, there is a lot more to consider than just that. Too bad good old Bush didn't think about that before he delved into his. I think he's learned his lesson now (or one would hope)

ForteCash 12-01-2006 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 11421904)
that would be AWESOME!

riiiight... :upsidedow

Odin 12-01-2006 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 11422025)
Time to do a little research and realize that the political/economic alliances that once safeguarded the relationship have been eroded slowly and surely by the US president time and again. Nobody ever said Canada could beat the US in a war either. We wouldn't have to. The political/economonic/global climate would end that coup before it ever turned into anything much of anything. And IF in the EXTREMELY SLIM chance it was "successful", the global reprecussions would be catastrophic, not to mention there would be civil war in Canada. No way in hell Canadians would quietly submit to being "conquered". It's nice to think that war is as simple and easy as the actual killing itself, however, there is a lot more to consider than just that. Too bad good old Bush didn't think about that before he delved into his. I think he's learned his lesson now (or one would hope)

I was going to type something long in response, but really there isn't a need. The fact that you think Canadians are going to launch some Iraqi styled insurgency is just hilarious. I live in Australia, which parallels with Canada in many respects, and I know for absolute certain if another Western nation (especially an English speaking one with a similar background - such as the US) conquered us a grand total of two people would end up fighting.

Now, if Iran conquered Canada I could imagine an insurgency of some type, but the US? Not going to happen. The US would allow most freedoms, protect the wealth and property of everyone, and people would just go about their daily business and wouldn't risk their lives, or the lives of their families. You may like to think you'd fight, but once you realize the reality of a bullet and an occupier with more power than you could ever dream of you'd fall into line just like the rest of the sheep, and nothing would happen.

Big_D 12-01-2006 07:33 AM

staying out of this one, two of the most never ending conversations in the world are politics and religion.


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