This one is hella cool: https://youtube.com/watch?v=95TLE2cV6S4&NR

philosophy vs strike force ;]

I don't care what anyone says, that guy didn't go down on purpose

He didn't look like an Aikido master.

Something is not right there.

muhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That 'master' sucks

wonder what he teaches to his students

"arrrgh!! Now all of you! Think strongly on something BAD happenin to your enemy!!!"

that old dude hasnt been hit before i think.

I wonder what the old man was thinking..... feel kinda bad for him.....

Sorry, no pics of asian chicks in this thread, and it's about fighting.

So no reason for you to be in it.

dude, what the hell is he using? this has to be fake, you can't just wave your arm and knock somebody over like that.

this is not Aikido and this guy aint a master

50 :]

Actors will happen even in the best-regulated families.

edit: owned :(

Hmm strange vid....BTW what about some krav maga videos:)

http://www.daitouryu-aikidou.jp/ is his website. All in Japanese.

Aikido deals in fantasy. The only reason it looks cool, like Dork Jedi's video he posted a few up, is because the UKE, the one being thrown, is violently throwing himself around.

This no touch is just a greater delusion sold to the students that supposedly works.

it is all fake!!!

LOL, never heard of Aikido before, but I wouldn't recommend it. Serves him right.

i agree with you, MMA fighter are killers
but when i see videos like that, it's just a disrespect for MMA fighters

my little sister would beat the old guy

you're training KM since a year, right? how is it going?

LOL, yes you get it :), but oldmaster must you some "bad" force, which exist only in the his mind :D, he is only the good manipulator, which overrate his abilities

Man I LOVE Style vs Style martial arts clips.

Someone should make a DVD of just Style vs Style, would make a squillion!

Steven Seagal was an Aikido instructor before his 'amazing film career' =]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=H0VcOtneCRU

Nobody laughed at my joke.. :321GFY

Well fuck ya all then..

With that said I can kick all your asses!

Yeah...........

Kick em........

:321GFY

THis is a great thread.... I shot it over to some of my MMA friends.

I'm ignoring you till you make good on your promise.

Over a year now.

:(

I think alot of people are forgetting what the essence of Martial Arts are. Most Japanese Martial Arts were created for a specific reason and fine tuned for that reason.

I.E : Karate. Developped secretly by Japanese farmers, it was called the art of the open handed fist. Its nature was to allow a seemingly harmless farmer to defend himself against attackers (bandits, soldiers, etc.) wielding weapons. Every student is taught to block sturdily joints and to strike extremely quickly, thus creating an effective defense against weapon wielding strikers (with more or less training of course).

Kung-Fu : Monks who were constantly robbed and killed in their monastaries by bandits wanting their possessions formed specific defenses against them to effectively neutralize them utilizing everything in their environment. They took inspiration from animals and elements to create their martial art.

etc. etc.


The point is, these Martial arts were created from necessity, not for direct gladiator-like confrontation. Most Martial Arts utilize the element of surprise as their main weapon. Martial Artists seemingly look week at first glance, but are trained to react and overthrow an opponent who is not expecting it.


So when you put these people in a ring where they're both opponents know eachothers habilities, you're elimating the traditionnal Martial Artists basic skill, which, again, is the element of surprise.


Any proper Martial Arts school first teaches its students that what they are learning is to defend themselves, not to engage in all out combat. Any student who ends up in such a situation has not fully understood what they are learning.

So when putting a Martial Artist against an MMA fighter, you're basically comparing apples and oranges. The MMA fighter will always come out victorious because you are basically on their turf. Naked, hand to hand combat is obviously dominated by MMA fighters because they are muscled up gladiators who train specifically for that.

Give them a sword, put them up against an Iaido student, and they will be quickly cut down.

Put them against a weapoin wielding thug, and alot of them will have to think twice about their approach on how to disarm them as compared to a Krav Maga student (I believe they are the ones that intensily study weapon defense).




So what is my point?

These debates are dumb. Its basically all a penis comparing contest that ultimately leads nowhere because anybody with half a brain knows that MMA fighters have the upper hand in no holds barred combat. But no they are not the ultimate evolution in fighting.

What's with the slapping shit from the old man? Sort of like a broke-ass college professor at some community college teaching business, all theory.

Yes because in this day and age you run in to a lot of people carrying around swords with them.

As for Krav Maga, it's just a fucking joke. Seriously. Someone was once showing me their handgun disarming technique, which seemed to work okay when I held a fake gun right up to their head. However, when instead I used half a brain cell and took 3 steps back in to a Weaver stance, the Krav Maga artist was left starting at me with no viable solution.

I don't agree.

Your whole posts sounds like one big apology for why Maritial Arts today do not work.

What's the difference with a guy punching you in the face knowing it's coming, and not knowing it's coming? Surprise.

This Aikido Grandmaster knew it was coming, and yet couldn't stop it.

So you are telling me he would have been able to if some guy just bum rushed him?

PLEASE stop insulting my intelligence. MMA is the future, it is fighting in all ranges.

This raps it up :thumbsup

Hows Exxxotica doing?

A real Aikido master would have whooped your silly ass, lardo.

Sure he would. How about you get off some non existant Aikido Master's Nuts and do it yourself, faggot?

DarkJedi would never, and I mean never, backup his mouth. Get serious.

I forgot to add, all your info about Karate, Kung fu is wrong.

I agree with Tony.

I was once "a young in shape Aikido guy" but didn't have the discipline to stick with it for the 30 years or so it takes to become "good" at Aikido - and I (at 6'2 and 200 lbs fighting weight) had my ass handed to me more than once by a small and humble "weak old man" whose slightest touch felt like I was being hit with a sledge hammer, so I'm not about to discount what is happening in the 'no touch' videos.

I think you missed the whole point of my post.
I know you're all high and mighty about your MMA, but sit back and consider it. Most Martial Arts were designed for a specific reason.

Lets look at it in a way that every Joe could understand where I'm coming from, lets compare Martial Arts to cars.

Most cars are designed to excel in a specific area. Hummers were designed to be masters of off-roading in most terrains, pick up trucks were made for hauling stuff, porsches were made for speeding, dragsters were made for accelerating super fast in a straight line, blah blah blah. You get the point?

Now, apply this to Martial Arts. Some Martial Arts were designed to be effective in certain situations. Ninjitsu for stealth and assasination, Kendo for swordsman ship, Iaido for quickly drawing a sword and killing your opponent, Karate for versatility and defense against armed attackers, blah blah blah.


In today's society, most Martial Arts are obsolete of course, but we still train them for the benefits that they give us (discipline, good health and confidence).

MMA is specifically designed to dominate in hand to hand competition. Put any other Martial Artist in an MMA fighter's element and he will be destroyed as we have seen time and time again.

Put them outside of that element, and they could loose just as easily pitting a hummer vs a lambo in rocky terrain. Why? because they would be out of their element.


I know MMA is the tough guy's style of choice cause its the new fad (like Karate was in the 80s), but don't go gloating about how its the end to all styles, cause thats just plain ignorant.

Think about how you thought Aikido was the shit when you studied it?


There is no ultimate fighting style. Although MMA is pretty damn well rounded, there is no "best" form.

thats 100% bullshit and is nothing but the typical new age hippie "be at peace with the universe" spin that is put on martial arts to justify the type of shit you see in the video and the rationale the idiots use to defend it.

all cultures since the dawn of time have developed fighting styles with and without weapons. they are all designed for 1 thing and 1 thing only... to kill the enemy.




if you want to say martial arts that you study/train is just a sport for exercise... fine. if you are gonna say you are some grandmaster super hero that can throw people across the room by using the force... then you deserve what you get when you step into the ring.

MMA Rules !!!

Is the most efective Martial Art on the street , no rules on the streets.

Did I ever say the Aikido master was gonna win? He was a total fool.

The point I'm saying is that comparing these fighting styles is utterly pointless and is nothing more than a penis comparing contest.

Most Martial Arts were designed to excel at a certain aspect of fighting. Open all out combat isnt the prime purpose for alot of them.


If you guys aren't getting what I'm saying, then fine. I will not waste my breath on deaf ears.

Sure I get the point. So no touch knockout were designed for what, again?

How many people are running around with swords, nunchuks, etc? I know I run around with a HK USP.40, it's called modern times.

I'll apply it to martial arts.

It's a horse drawn buggy versus a Ferrari Enzo.


That's great and dandy, but this stupid fuck Aikido Grand master boasted of being 200 - 0 in MMA fights and put up 5 grand winner take all.


Oh this is gonna be good. So you are telling me that if the fight happened outside on concrete that MMA guy wouldn't have GRABBED THE WRIST of the Aikido Grandmaster and punched him the face?!

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD. The delusion.

MMA is not a style, get your facts right, which you haven't yet in your arguments. MMA is not a style.

Absolutely, till I used it and it failed. Thank God for BJJ.

Let me put this simple for you.

MMA > TMA (Traditional Martial Arts)

Easy enough?

Wow, that guy was real tough beating up an old man. I don't think that video is anything for MMA people to be proud of.

The old guy may be delusional, but he is an old man. End of story. Why not just go outside and kick the shit out of the local old wino because he thinks he is superman? Go kick him in the head and brag about that too.