50 domains hijacked?

edit: woo woo

Not every precedent is a "legal precedent." Stop making me side with JTF

I *think* you would have to wait till AFTER damages have occured. Like if he did not comply with their requests and they shut his sites down, and he lost " x " amount of money. I think all he could sue them for at this point is attorney fees, unless he can prove some other damages have occured. Since no one is saying bad things about him I don't think he can prove any type of defemation.

:1orglaugh feels dirty doesn't it...

This is quite possibly the scariest fucking thing to happen in this industry in years and alot of you dumb fucks can't even begin to grasp why.

Un fucking Real.

You're a clueless dipshit Will.

Law is what we are talking about here.

Hey peahces... my neighbor, who works at taco bell and not the DOJ or any other government body, is requesting to see the ID of a girl in your program. I called a lawyer, he said I should contact you, get the ID's and comply with the requests.

Clearly this lawyer has my best interest in mind.

Will you please fax me over a current ID, phone number and any other contact info for that model so I can hand them over to my neighbor who again does not work for the DOJ.




While I understand your posts, please dont think that all of us are clueless as to how the law works. I do hope for slicks case that this lawyer that is helping him is experienced with the specific laws aimed at the adult business. And personally, I dont think is knows much at all about adult, otherwise he would have never advised him to start gathering the ID's.

Umm no we're not.


What we're talking about is Registrars acting arbitrarily.

If it aint legal it dont mean jack shit.

I agree with you. It doesn't have to happen in a court room. We are talking about company polices here not rules of law.

With a guys business and money. Property.

Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling?

The policies have to be inside the law. If there is a question about it then it should go to court.

DirectNic is asking for a photo ID with a birthdate on it. If you give me a fax number, I'll send you one of mine, OK? :)

Here's a hint - you're not going to know shit about me with a picture and a birthdate - except that I'm over 18 and when to buy me a gift (it's next week, BTW) :thumbsup

Replied - Make sure I'm white listed :upsidedow

I'm out for the night - PEACE

I'm curious. Say it was the police that were knocking on your door instead of Directnic (basically).

Police: We want to see your 2257 records for your site we have a complaint of CP on your site. .
You: I don't have any I don't own those images.
Police: You put them on your site and you are hosting them, where is the paper work.
You: Let me call the affiliate companies that own them and get you the paperwork.

And that would be the last thing you would be saying as they drag you to jail. Then they would proceed to ransack your house/office, take computer equipment, etc..

Would this go any differently ?

Perhaps:
You: I don't own the pictures i dont have the paperwork.
Police: sorry for bothering you, can you point us in the right direction of who does own them?

Or

You: I don't own the pictures I don't have any paperwork.
Police: You put them on your site and you are hosting them, where is the paper work.
You: but there is an injuction, I am in the FSC.
Police: oh, ok we will go then we can't investigate CP if the person is in the FSC. We will be back when the injunction is lifted. You better hope the girls have reached 18 by then :1orglaugh


Anyone of you who uses young questionable content ever think this through ?

Read this again, idiots.

The probable outcome I see is fewer and fewer registars willing to provide domains with adult material on them, just like hosting and billing companies have been doing for years. At some point, risk overtakes rewards.

I will agree you to a small extent... but

laws are made and cases won or lost based on the actions of previous people in the same situation and decisions made on how to handle the situation.

If Slick lays down and complies, every other registrar can quickly start doing the same thing and will use the reason of... 'direct NIC vs Slick'.

but lets forget about registrars for a moment and think about what the government will do if Slick lays down and gives in...

they already think that as a industry we are cowards and not willing to fight for our rights

What if one of the galleries is of say Paris Hilton??

How would you get an ID for her???

It would be impossible..

I mean we all know she is over 21, but how would you get an id to prove it??

Furthermore we all know the models in question are over 18 coming from sponsors like nscash, etc, but he's required to prove it.

What if he cant get one of the ID''s?? Then what??

The dude from ponopushers posted above a comment like " whould you give your shit up" refering to he wouldnt give someone like slick ids..

which would leave him fucked..

Time for me to do some house cleaning.. Promoting sponsors only who I know will give me id's in a time of need..

DirectNIC wants to be the test (gfy court)case on this? LOL I think I know the outcome, nobody will use the service and no other register will do the same dumb shit.

Now you're starting to make a little sense, dude.

This is a scary ass fucking situation. Period.

Scary day isnt it :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh Jimmie finanlly said something of substance and people agree with him. So he tries to twist into saying i did something wrong? moron, lol.

One thing has nothing to do with the other. There is the issue, here of whether a register has the right to ask for docs. The issue I brought up was different, do affiliates feel safe using content that is "questionable" with out having docs.

I didn't expect you to see the difference, just don't want anyone else to be missguided here.

I seriously doubt many sponsors would hand over IDs to us. Even to those who have been around for years and are known by all

Got it, thanks again, you're the best :)

God you're pathetic.


Dude I can find 50 bitches who look 17 with just a half hours browsing on that POS cam site you promote. How the FUCK is that any different?



Just die Will. Please.

now let's hope Slick your tgp doesn't rotate thumbs every hour ;-)

As far as taking this to court goes, I myself don't like to be put in the spotlight, so I think that's the last thing I'd want to do at this point. The fact that my sites weren't taken down and everything is running is the main thing. If they eventually do take the sites down, that'll definately be a different story.

I will donate money to a legal fund for you should it come to that.

rofl, ha ha ha :) It actually does update quite often. I do have a list of the current top galleries 14 that I saved and already got the info for.

Thanks Jim, I appreciate the offer :)

I'd do the same thing.. with a nice 'fuck you' on the way out

XPays could deliver the necessary documents in a heartbeat. Also we host all of the Images. This was not a very good example because seeing as how we are talking about one of the 2 biggest pornstars in history-- you know we all have our doc's in order. XPays affiliates are SAFE!

So what ? Perhaps a "pattern" would have been a better word to use but what you are stating is the obvious. If he complies then they are likely to do this again to someone else in similar situation. If he doesn't comply and fights it and wins in court then he would be setting a precedent. If he fought it and won then they would be unlikely to do this again.

You state the obvious and people are make it sound like you figured something brillant out. Big surprise, if he complies they will likely do it again. wow shocking.

until they get another complaint and you have to go through this shit again.

Drama queen! calm down.

Directnic asking to see legal docs is not even close to issues like .xxx and new 2257 regulations, etc...

IF, this escalates to a legal battle and directnic wins, then it would be something to get excited about. I doubt it will come to that and is a long was from that right.

And please, don't reply " You are stupid" Unless you want to explain what it is I am saying that you disagree with, Simply saying "you are stupid" is exactly the reason NO ONE gives you any credit for possibly having some intelligence. Making comments like that just make *you* look stupid jimmie.

Seems to me like it's in the best interest of everyone involved to get those IDs to DirectNIC and then forget about this one time incident.

Sure, he could give them the finger. That is another option, but with that comes the risk of the FBI showing up at his place to do a 2257 check on records he doesn't have. Then what?

I don't know who his sponsors are or if they are in the US, but if they are providing explicit content to affiliates without age docs then that could be a problem. That's why a number of sponsors have placed restrictions on affiliate use of their explicit promo content.

I'd agree that it's not the registrar's position to demand ID's, but the only alternative is they report him to the FBI and then shut him down entirely. What would the people of GFY have said about that?

Someone really opened a can of worms with this one.

Then you switch companies... no big deal. It becomes a big deal when it is a law and you are forced to adhere to it . :2 cents:

i got 5 on it also.. after readin this ..its time i look at all the domains i own...

Anyone else use sibername.com? First time I've heard of them and would like some feedback.

I'm also curious as to how exactly it affects THEM (DN) if someone has CP on a domain that was bought from DN? #1. DN is NOT hosting the shit. #2. They are just a registrar and not responsible for the content of someone's website(s). So how can they be held liable for any of this?

I guess by that I can be a car salesman and some idio buys a car from me, goes out driving one night drunk and with guns. He does a bunch of drive-by shootings killing 100's of people yet I will be the one held responsible? I think not.

Now, if they allowed people to register domains through them like childsex.com, kiddyporn.com or other shit like that than I can see them shutting the account down and deleting the domain. Other than that, this, to me, is a load of shit.

Keyword here: THEY CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTENT OF ANY WEBSITE THAT IS HOSTED WITH A HOSTING PROVIDER THAT IS NOT THEM!

how hard is that to comprehend?

I guess any Joe Blow can make any false complaints to kill their competition and they will, in most cases, get their way. Think about it for a second.

Damn Nancy, you working over time to get your sig views in. Are you getting ready to take off for a few weeks and trying to get them all in now?

I think everyone saw that post (like 4 posts up) but thanks for pointing it out again.

Go drink some beer and kick the cat, chill or something.

I know " I am stupid". thanks for filling me in.

you have to understand that the precedent that they will set will be that every other registrar will follow what they did and in the end it will become a HUGE legal disaster. Is it that hard to see that? 1 big fish does it and the rest think it's the way to go. So now they are ALL doing it. They all get so many complaints, lawyers involed, fbi etc.. Ya, that'll be so much fun. And in 98% of the case it will be due to FALSE complaints just to cripple the competition.

DirectNIC HAS NO JURISDICTION IN ASKING FOR PICTURE ID'S. If they think a certain site/image is questionable, they need to report it to the proper authorities (the FBI and/or the DOJ) PERIOD.
They are doing this drama bullshit for sig views.
READ THE FUCKING LAWS PEOPLE!

just started reading this but....PLEASE tell me you are getting paper mail on this vs email? Email is easily spoofable....

AWSOME!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

Its good to know that XPAYS has our back if a time in need were to arise!

Evan, bad example I used there.. Im just so mind boggled here on whats going on..

I know you guys would have our back.. You guys are great.