Edgeprod on the other hand is here for a social life. :1orglaugh

From the school of

If I can't do it neither can you.

Or do you think you are better than everyone else?

That's the problem Paul, always has been.

It is possible to promote yourself and/or your products without incessant spam or continual self ownage.

You never have figured that out.

No, just you. But most everyone is.

Next thing you will tell us is my content converts and retains.

"Good Hard Fuck
People love hardcore sex, that's why Good Hard Fuck appeals to a wide audience.
With hundreds of videos and thousands of images - this site keeps members busy (and
rebilling) for a long time."

But then that means LB was lying on Netpond. So does my cheap Bargain Basement content work on Good Hard Fuck tour or not? Either way LB is lying to someone.

Don't bother changing the pages I screen captured them. Would love to see you ly your way out of this.

Maybe this surfer is talking about. Cheap little sites thrown together with cheap content, then sponsors tricking newbie webmasters to send traffic to their site that don't work for the affiliate or the member.

Are all your sites on this level or just one?

You should be careful about your throwing around the names of other boards or you could find yourself getting banned . . . and then we would all be bored.

My stuff must be good, even the Bargain Basement content that is cheap as hell and not saturated at all.

Because look what my haters say about it and how well it works on their tours.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/titan.jpg

Thanks for the glowing endorsement. :thumbsup

Sorry for mentioning another board.

I'm off to do some work.

Whoa, if you are going to use an affiliate page sales pitch as a "testimonial" you have serious issues.

Have you ever seen a sales pitch on any program that had something along the lines of: "This site doesn't convert very well. The content blows, but it was cheap."

Thanks for the laugh, time for bed. :thumbsup

So you think lying to affiliates is all right or wrong?

Another poster from another board who does not have a clue how we work the site.

Go back to the paysite and then come back, apolagise and tell us how much of the content is ours and how much is bought in, brokered or from which of the 5 shooters we have employed and the many locations?

Carrie I have lots of others peoples content on the site, but obviously you do not know that and just posted.

Maybe you're the one with a hole in her foot. :1orglaugh

Lol .... talk about missing the point ! :)

Or should it be called - trying to divert attention from being caught out...

....... again ?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh After your threads these past few days I find it hilarious that *you* of all people would insinuate lying is bad as it seems to be your preferred way of drumming up business.

Man, it just keeps getting better. Need a shovel?

Oh, snap! This, from a man of the tablecloth?

So the site does well and you are not telling lies on the affiliates page?

But that means, you were telling them on another board?

Which one is it and how soon after I caught your lies were my posts made invisible on the other board?

Yes I had one broken link out of 8. I was losing 12.5% of the business and still thought it was good.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

No shit...Paul would NEVER come to GFY and say that his websites were converting great if they weren't. He would come here instead and say, "You know guys, my Petra site seems to be lagging a bit since I opened it last month. Especially in the CCBill sales. Do you guys think it's because of my shitty content on the tour or my bad grammer?"

If you buy a car and it says gas mileage is 17 City/ 25 Highway . . are they lying?

i think that guy has all his cliches in a row.

I think that mail was from someone that works in adult.

wtf is going on here? :mad:

Now that was funny :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
[steals epigram]

Interestingly enough, Mark/his customer brings up a valuable point, and one all webmasters and program owners alike should give serious consideration to.

SO MANY companies leave too much money on the table, both throwing it away from themselves and from their webmaster affiliates by NOT making it top priority to take care of their customers once they've received the initial sale.

To break it down simply: all customer service is, or Should Be, are MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES not only to do right by the customer, but to keep them as a lifetime member of your site and program. And this includes cancelling the member, refunding them if it's called for, and not trying to work them for every penny before they leave...because even those customers who left for whatever reason will come back if you take care of them appropriately (i.e. promptly, professionally and kindly). Because ya know what, most of your online colleagues are not taking good care of them, and thus, the customer will return to you and your site because you did.

It always amazes me that this concept is so simple, yet so many seem to forget it or not care...or maybe they are just not smart enough to have the right support mentalities to truly capitalize on making more money with their support departments.

I've been an adult site webmaster and program owner for over 11 years now; and I attribute my online success and longevity primarily to taking superior care of my customers. IF you are a true entrepreneur, you will take this concept, incorporate it into your business model and pick up the money that is being left on the table.

</cs rant>

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

insightful analysis on the part of a member? no try basic business school, community college stuff
"it take more money to get new customers then to keep the ones you already have"
it is beyond basic business to the point of homer simpson


spaz

Jesus Christ, nobody here said that our buisness models were something the average person (ie. surfer) couldn't understand. They are saying that there is no way a surfer writes him an email wanting to talk shop about the business aspect of porn. I've been doing the paysite thing for seven years and i've received a few emails from people who want to talk shop but it's usually talking about girls that I have worked with or wanting to know what it's like to get my cock sucked by a different cutie every day. Surfers don't want to talk about sign up to rebill ratios. I've never written an email to the GM of any car dealership to share my thoughts about turnover and be-back ratios. And if you believe that this email was from a surfer you are a tool.

Paul had his daily spam all planned out but he took such an ass pounding with Thurday's debacle that he didn't dare write his 'insightfull' post as being his own words because he was afraid we would rip him apart. Instead he got the, what he thought was, briliant idea to post it as coming via email from a member. Just fess up Paul...you wrote that yourself. You know it, I know it and everyone else here (except for spazlabz) knows it.

:angrysoap

LOL

I think part of the problem that people think this email is a fake is that there are quirks in the email that are similar to your posting style...

Terms like the following:

bleeding money:
gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=4708370&highlight=bleeding#post47 08370

bleeding cash:
gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=2955709&highlight=bleeding#post29 55709

bleeding everyone dry:
gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=791178&highlight=bleeding#post791 178


flak:
gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=10553360&highlight=flak#post10553 360


flak:
gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=330936&highlight=flak


ducks in a row:
gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=2790979&highlight=ducks#post27909 79

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

HAHA Classic.

I have told you, and all uk webmasters have told you - But you don't listen.
Keep trying to sell your over-saturated shit content - And keep asking the qustion and telling everybody the answer.
<!---get a fucking life starts here
Original content sells and retains - Retaining a customer is far more profitable than seeking a new one --->

Yeah, surprisingly, it's something my mom said to me when I was very young. It stuck with me, I guess.

That's very creepy, because I was just saying that to someone on the phone ... how it was clearly Paul because of that exact reason ...

Thank you for the complimant of our content being sold so widely. Why do you think so many buy it so much?

I know better than anyone what kind oof content sells and retains. I have to otherwise our content would not be saturated in the biggest niche in porn.

Buddha say: Man who types with one hand, works half as hard.

Welcome to the show.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...light=bleeding a thread from 2004

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...highlight=flak Text not found and from 2004. So I gave up.

I use a few cliches many people use and that's your proof. Well done Sherlock Holmes.

Do you know what's really scary is people would rather ignore what this member says in favor of appearing like an idiot.

Stu stop being so arrogant. Just because no one write to you it does not follow no one writes to anyone. Pam for instance is always telling us members talk to her.

So do other sponsors. Maybe you need to change your tack and cultivate members more. I do it on the message board on the paysite all the time and it works.

Yeah I read some of the posts on your 'message board' the other day. Its amazing how nobody posts anything even a slight bit negative (broken links, unable to login, etc.). Instead, all the surfers seem to PRAISE your site for some reason. :1orglaugh I wonder if I left a message on your board if it would show up. I know it wouldn't so I'm not even gonna try.

Hey guys if you want a good laugh check out Paul's 'message board' sometime. The link is at the bottom of every one of his websites. Oh and don't worry Paul, I've bookmarked this thread and I'll be sure to bump it on a regular basis...I know you want/need the exposure! :thumbsup

Gay porn ?

Searched for more than any other niche....

Go back and read it again then, you missed something.

Could it be that I fix those problems right away and then delete the thread because it's no longer relevant?

Maybe on your site the broken links don't get fixed so fast, maybe you get more complaints. But you said surfers don't talk to you so maybe it's only complaints you get.

Yes we get broken links, we get videos that do not load, because I'm stupid and forget to tag them as videos, we get people forget their log ins, we did have a problem with hackers auto downloading and grinding the site to a halt while we were asleep and unable to boot them out. Got a problem at the moment with one member and his download speed, I think it's his routing, but he says otherwise.

But why leave those threads up after they are resolved? Only someone very stupid would do that and only only a little bit stupid.

Like I said not everyone does it the same way as you. I'm sure you are great and few can do it better. But ............

Incidentally most of the threads are compliments, but as everyone will tell you our content is sold very widely. Could the compliments and sales be because we are good at shooting porn?

Just a shot in the dark.

You can post there and I will leave it up so long as it's not linking to another site, unless you return the compliment. Will be interesting to see what others say.

Searched for, could that be it's harder to find?

What business are you in?

Because if you think Gay is bigger than Teens it's not the porn business.

I never said the most successful, most searched, or hardest to find.

I said the biggest niche and Teen is the biggest niche.