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MarkTiarra 01-22-2007 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11768880)
Oh science, that thing that proves one thing, the proves otherwise. You know, like how scientists have said global warming is true, just like other scientists have said its bullshit.

Put up some references please. I haven't found one SCIENTIFIC journal where any scientist denies global warming and CO2's cause on it. What I have found are links in MAINSTREAM media raising the question and since most people only read a headline in Newsweek and suddenly think that's the scientific community, it becomes fact in their heads. Do some research...

aico 01-22-2007 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11768880)
Oh science, that thing that proves one thing, the proves otherwise. You know, like how scientists have said global warming is true, just like other scientists have said its bullshit.

First let me guess, you haven't even seen the movie.

Second, the movie is not about whether global warming is true or not, it's about the exponential increase in CO2 in our atmosphmere and the effects that could have.

Third, name one scientist who says it is "bullshit". Just one, since you seem to know, shouldn't be too hard.

I'll wait why you try to Google it.

notabook 01-22-2007 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11768814)
if al gore had won as the polls said he did we'd be in a VERY different and I'd be willing to bet BETTER world today

I fail to see how that has anything to do with his ear-numbing monotone voice...?

Natural Cause 01-22-2007 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 11768894)
First let me guess, you haven't even seen the movie.

Second, the movie is not about whether global warming is true or not, it's about the exponential increase in CO2 in our atmosphmere and the effects that could have.

Third, name one scientist who says it is "bullshit". Just one, since you seem to know, shouldn't be too hard.

I'll wait why you try to Google it.

*looks at the dvd sitting in the dvd stand*

Dude, i couldn't even give you the name of a scientist who says its fact. Try Google? I can't be arsed. Theres studies which say that satellite and balloon observations which show a slight cooling since 1979, there are studies which show cooling everywhere except northen or midnorthen latitude.

Who really cares, the studies which show global warming show it increasing at something like 0.2 or 0.3 degrees every 10 years. I couldnt give a shit about a 1 or 2 degree change in my lifetime. It's not like theres reincarnation, unless you believe in that shit too.

aico 01-22-2007 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11768921)
*looks at the dvd sitting in the dvd stand*

Dude, i couldn't even give you the name of a scientist who says its fact. Try Google? I can't be arsed. Theres studies which say that satellite and balloon observations which show a slight cooling since 1979, there are studies which show cooling everywhere except northen or midnorthen latitude.

Who really cares, the studies which show global warming show it increasing at something like 0.2 or 0.3 degrees every 10 years. I couldnt give a shit about a 1 or 2 degree change in my lifetime. It's not like theres reincarnation, unless you believe in that shit too.

Ya, didn't think you could do it. Imagine that, how'd I know a guy talking out his ass couldn't back up anything he says.

Ok, so now show me one study that says satellite and balloon observations show a slight cooling since 1979.

Natural Cause 01-22-2007 03:29 AM

Science 1997. Donno which issue.

SleazyDream 01-22-2007 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook (Post 11768897)
I fail to see how that has anything to do with his ear-numbing monotone voice...?


i perfer it to bush :2 cents:

aico 01-22-2007 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11768958)
Science 1997. Donno which issue.

Doesn't it scare you that you have all these beliefs of fact in your head that you haven't even taken the time to verify as true or not? Someone just told you these things and you just believe it? Sad.

NoComments 01-22-2007 04:00 AM

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...gerprints.html

Natural Cause 01-22-2007 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 11768970)
Doesn't it scare you that you have all these beliefs of fact in your head that you haven't even taken the time to verify as true or not? Someone just told you these things and you just believe it? Sad.

You realise what you just said can be said about you?

I don't believe in global warming. But even if it was true, im all for it, screw the world, if its bad for the generation after me, great, i don't give a shit.

aico 01-22-2007 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11769104)
You realise what you just said can be said about you?

Really? What facts did I produce that I didn't back up? You're arguing your point with "facts" you don't even know is true, you just heard it somewhere, or maybe you just made it up, who knows. It's called ignorance.

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polish_aristocrat 01-22-2007 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11769104)
But even if it was true, im all for it, screw the world, if its bad for the generation after me, great, i don't give a shit.

I guess you're one of the guys who only fucks whores and doesn't plan having any children?

stickyfingerz 01-22-2007 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11768611)
I'll bite.

"Something is happening" but as of yet I don't believe what anyone is saying. Years ago it was the ozone layer, but that problem seems to have fixed itself - rather quickly too I might add.

The truth is that we are guests on this planet and we have been here long enough to gauge what the weather is really like. The weather is changing. It could be because we are doing some damage, or it could just be something that happens every few one hundred years or so.

The ozone layer is a perfect example. Ten years ago the story was we caused the ozone layer to disappear and that we were all gonna die. Don't tell me the meager actions we took fixed the problem so quickly. This was all just part of Eath's cycle and we had nothing to do with it.

There will always be people claiming gloom and doom. I'm not buying into it.

What I will buy into is the fact that oil is drying up. I'm trying to figure out what we'll do thirty years from now when we cannot make gasoline. Life as we know it will change radically overnight.

Haha Careful Rochard. They have a movie made by a guy who was almost president. He had colorful graphs and stories about poor polar bears who couldnt swim in the ocean. Its pretty compelling. :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 01-22-2007 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra (Post 11768884)
This is what scares me about people. You can be faced with an overwhelming stack of facts (and not just from that movie as one source) and yet still believe it's not true. To me it's as dumb to NOT believe in the effect CO2 has on global warming as it is to take the bible as fact.

All this is a great example of the "cry wolf" type effect. People are so used to be lied to by officials that even when faced with a ton of evidence, as long as anyone raises doubt they are willing to believe in said doubt.

Congratulations folks... the propaganda machine has finally won. All they have to do is raise a doubt and you ignore straight scientific proof. I wonder if a bunch of politicians decided to declare the earth was flat again how many people would say the scientists just want us to believe it's round.

No no. The propaganda machine is the one saying global warming is true. The one that helps perpetuate the grants that scientists get to "study" global warming. What happened to the impending ice age mark? You recall that from the late 70's? You know the reason that green peace was started in the first place? How bout soil erosion? How bout how deforestation is going to make us have to produce oxygen cause there will no longer be any trees.. Its a new horror every few years. Yawn. They put together some flashy graphics now everyone is sooo scared. Silly.

s9ann0 01-22-2007 05:48 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

I think he would have been a much better president than bush

teenytricia 01-22-2007 05:52 AM

haven't seen it... after reading this thread, I am gonna see it....

BVF 01-22-2007 05:52 AM

for one, BUSH has little impact on global warming, just like Gore wouldn't be able to do jack shit to stop it if he was president...There are third world countries all over the world who don't give a shit about the environment and release all kinds of toxins into the air....in alot of countries, it is customary to still BURN their garbage.

Grapesoda 01-22-2007 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11768611)
I'll bite.

"Something is happening" but as of yet I don't believe what anyone is saying. Years ago it was the ozone layer, but that problem seems to have fixed itself - rather quickly too I might add.

The truth is that we are guests on this planet and we have been here long enough to gauge what the weather is really like. The weather is changing. It could be because we are doing some damage, or it could just be something that happens every few one hundred years or so.

The ozone layer is a perfect example. Ten years ago the story was we caused the ozone layer to disappear and that we were all gonna die. Don't tell me the meager actions we took fixed the problem so quickly. This was all just part of Eath's cycle and we had nothing to do with it.

There will always be people claiming gloom and doom. I'm not buying into it.

What I will buy into is the fact that oil is drying up. I'm trying to figure out what we'll do thirty years from now when we cannot make gasoline. Life as we know it will change radically overnight.


I'm gonna go with that one . . . like it didn't snow in western euro until the 1100-1200's cause we are now in or are coming out of a mini ice age . . stuff like that and the fact that if you study the numbers instead of the hype, the temp rise is insignificant . . .

Brad Gosse 01-22-2007 08:05 AM

great movie but a real eye opener. I also found it a little scary

SleazyDream 01-22-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spanno (Post 11769341)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

I think he would have been a much better president than bush

mind you my basset hound would have been a better president than bush so that's not saying much

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

_Richard_ 01-22-2007 12:22 PM

Hey, if it's all gloom and doom, why are people even bothering discussing it? Because you have a point of view that isn't backed by anything other than hearsay and a conceptual coping mechanism?

"The age of consequence is upon us"

- winston churchill

borked 01-22-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11768611)
I'll bite.

"Something is happening" but as of yet I don't believe what anyone is saying. Years ago it was the ozone layer, but that problem seems to have fixed itself - rather quickly too I might add.

The truth is that we are guests on this planet and we have been here long enough to gauge what the weather is really like. The weather is changing. It could be because we are doing some damage, or it could just be something that happens every few one hundred years or so.

The ozone layer is a perfect example. Ten years ago the story was we caused the ozone layer to disappear and that we were all gonna die. Don't tell me the meager actions we took fixed the problem so quickly. This was all just part of Eath's cycle and we had nothing to do with it.

There will always be people claiming gloom and doom. I'm not buying into it.

What I will buy into is the fact that oil is drying up. I'm trying to figure out what we'll do thirty years from now when we cannot make gasoline. Life as we know it will change radically overnight.

You need to look at what's happening at the poles - the entire Larson B ice shelf disintegrated last year - that's an area 10x Texas. All in one go. Ice is retreating faster than it ever has on record, and is exponentially rising.

Why is it exponential? Because the white of the ice reflects the sun and prevents warming of ocean underneath it. As more melts because of increases in air temperature, then more dark ocean is exposed to the sun and warms up, causing more ice to melt, exposing more ocean etc etc.

You may be successful in your line of work, because you're good. Have the decency to acknowledge that the world's most specialised scientists on climatology are good at theirs and what they say is correct.

There is more evidence than I can take in to scientifically state that what we are seeing is not the 'natural breathing' of our planet and is very close to reaching the point of no return - that is the polar icecaps will continue melting even if atomospheric CO2 levels went back to 'normal'.

Don't be selfish and thing of those that will use our planet when we have all gone.

borked 01-22-2007 12:55 PM

Didn't you guys receive David Attenborough's (BBC) "Are We Changing Planet Earth? on PBS???

Jman 01-22-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11770804)
mind you my basset hound would have been a better president than bush so that's not saying much

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Hehehe but America would of gone Hungry :1orglaugh

ajaxporn 01-22-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 11768878)
why would he mention that? what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

That the planet just finished an Ice Age and that the average temperature had been increasing since 1850, long before the automobile was invented. Yeah. Why would that be important?

Its also not worth mentioning that the unimaginably huge thermonuclear reactor we call the sun might have more to do with the temperature of the Earth than your SUV. Don't look up. Not important. Just keep worshiping the Weather Channel Gods.

/endsarcasm

Phoenix 01-22-2007 01:43 PM

damn...total conviction in the face of what could be a great disaster....almost relgious like belief that they know it all....that is what scares me about the nay-sayers.

lulu36 01-22-2007 01:52 PM

i definitely want to see it. its frightening what us stupid humans can do to our planet.

stickyfingerz 01-22-2007 02:32 PM

I just farted someone alert Al Gore that his time table to the end of time just was flucuated by my personal methane production lab.. HURRY TIME IS SHORT!! :Oh crap

Matiz 01-22-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ajaxporn (Post 11768865)
There is scientific consensus that the last Ice Age ended around 1850. Funny how neo-pagans like Al Gore never mention that.

That must have been a very mild Ice Age. :helpme

borked 01-22-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11771732)
I just farted someone alert Al Gore that his time table to the end of time just was flucuated by my personal methane production lab.. HURRY TIME IS SHORT!! :Oh crap

You're better than than Sticky - you know when shit gets serious we need to stop listening to politicians.

rapmaster 01-22-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 11768548)
I hope the penguins will be okay...

ADG Webmaster

In fact they won't be. They're all dead.:mad:

hottoddy 01-22-2007 03:44 PM

Yep, no doubt that global climate changes occur naturally - who's disputing that? Around 1000AD, there were effing dairy farms on Greenland - dairy farms! A mini-ice age occurred around 1400 which forced the Scandinavian settlers to abandon them. It happened very quickly and this mini-ice age was well documented in Europe. As it is still far too cold today to have dairy farms on Greenland - I'm not exactly crapping my pants.

There were and will continue to be ice ages and global warming despite what we humans do. It's cyclical. No scientist has been able to establish that all of our emissions alone, taken in the most radical light, could contribute any more than +.25 of a degree.

It's happening, but I seriously doubt it's us.

Pleasurepays 01-22-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hottoddy (Post 11772229)
Yep, no doubt that global climate changes occur naturally - who's disputing that? Around 1000AD, there were effing dairy farms on Greenland - dairy farms! A mini-ice age occurred around 1400 which forced the Scandinavian settlers to abandon them. It happened very quickly and this mini-ice age was well documented in Europe. As it is still far too cold today to have dairy farms on Greenland - I'm not exactly crapping my pants.

There were and will continue to be ice ages and global warming despite what we humans do. It's cyclical. No scientist has been able to establish that all of our emissions alone, taken in the most radical light, could contribute any more than +.25 of a degree.

It's happening, but I seriously doubt it's us.

thats the problem. these discussions, the rhetoric and the arguments are almost never kept within the proper context of the fact that climate change occurs naturally and the actual discussion is what part of the current climate change is natural, what part is the result of mankinds contribution.

there is this intimidating term used to describe the issue called "global warming" which within the context of the discussion implies that the climate should remain constant or that no warming should be occuring naturally.

the simple fact is that there is no widespread agreement on whats happening, why, what degree of change is natural, what isn't etc.... BUT at the end of the day, you only get continued research funding, grants and attention for scaring people. scientific research is just as biased as anyone in their political views and that bias often occurs out of financial necessity.


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stickyfingerz 01-22-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 11772204)
You're better than than Sticky - you know when shit gets serious we need to stop listening to politicians.

I love ya man, but Ive been around long enough to have survived many of these "scares" I just know better. Im pretty sure we'll be just fine. :winkwink:

Phoenix 01-22-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11772333)
I love ya man, but Ive been around long enough to have survived many of these "scares" I just know better. Im pretty sure we'll be just fine. :winkwink:

well shit as long as you are pretty sure

WebairGerard 01-22-2007 04:02 PM

I have the DVD but have have not watched it yet

leedsfan 01-22-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Natural Cause (Post 11769104)

I don't believe in global warming. But even if it was true, im all for it, screw the world, if its bad for the generation after me, great, i don't give a shit.

official GFY "Moron of the Day", congratulations....

You can collect your t-shirt on the way out.

stickyfingerz 01-22-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11772341)
well shit as long as you are pretty sure

Well if im wrong it will be my fault for not shutting off my co2 production machine...... So everyone can blame me then.. lol oops I farted again damn you doomsday is all my fault.. :Oh crap ...

leedsfan 01-22-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11771429)
damn...total conviction in the face of what could be a great disaster....almost relgious like belief that they know it all....that is what scares me about the nay-sayers.

nay sayers dont scare me. They're too stupid.

V_RocKs 01-22-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra (Post 11768884)

Congratulations folks... the propaganda machine has finally won. All they have to do is raise a doubt and you ignore straight scientific proof. I wonder if a bunch of politicians decided to declare the earth was flat again how many people would say the scientists just want us to believe it's round.

Always bare in mind that history repeats itself.


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