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Second, the movie is not about whether global warming is true or not, it's about the exponential increase in CO2 in our atmosphmere and the effects that could have. Third, name one scientist who says it is "bullshit". Just one, since you seem to know, shouldn't be too hard. I'll wait why you try to Google it. |
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Dude, i couldn't even give you the name of a scientist who says its fact. Try Google? I can't be arsed. Theres studies which say that satellite and balloon observations which show a slight cooling since 1979, there are studies which show cooling everywhere except northen or midnorthen latitude. Who really cares, the studies which show global warming show it increasing at something like 0.2 or 0.3 degrees every 10 years. I couldnt give a shit about a 1 or 2 degree change in my lifetime. It's not like theres reincarnation, unless you believe in that shit too. |
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Ok, so now show me one study that says satellite and balloon observations show a slight cooling since 1979. |
Science 1997. Donno which issue.
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i perfer it to bush :2 cents: |
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I don't believe in global warming. But even if it was true, im all for it, screw the world, if its bad for the generation after me, great, i don't give a shit. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
I think he would have been a much better president than bush |
haven't seen it... after reading this thread, I am gonna see it....
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for one, BUSH has little impact on global warming, just like Gore wouldn't be able to do jack shit to stop it if he was president...There are third world countries all over the world who don't give a shit about the environment and release all kinds of toxins into the air....in alot of countries, it is customary to still BURN their garbage.
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I'm gonna go with that one . . . like it didn't snow in western euro until the 1100-1200's cause we are now in or are coming out of a mini ice age . . stuff like that and the fact that if you study the numbers instead of the hype, the temp rise is insignificant . . . |
great movie but a real eye opener. I also found it a little scary
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Hey, if it's all gloom and doom, why are people even bothering discussing it? Because you have a point of view that isn't backed by anything other than hearsay and a conceptual coping mechanism?
"The age of consequence is upon us" - winston churchill |
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Why is it exponential? Because the white of the ice reflects the sun and prevents warming of ocean underneath it. As more melts because of increases in air temperature, then more dark ocean is exposed to the sun and warms up, causing more ice to melt, exposing more ocean etc etc. You may be successful in your line of work, because you're good. Have the decency to acknowledge that the world's most specialised scientists on climatology are good at theirs and what they say is correct. There is more evidence than I can take in to scientifically state that what we are seeing is not the 'natural breathing' of our planet and is very close to reaching the point of no return - that is the polar icecaps will continue melting even if atomospheric CO2 levels went back to 'normal'. Don't be selfish and thing of those that will use our planet when we have all gone. |
Didn't you guys receive David Attenborough's (BBC) "Are We Changing Planet Earth? on PBS???
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Its also not worth mentioning that the unimaginably huge thermonuclear reactor we call the sun might have more to do with the temperature of the Earth than your SUV. Don't look up. Not important. Just keep worshiping the Weather Channel Gods. /endsarcasm |
damn...total conviction in the face of what could be a great disaster....almost relgious like belief that they know it all....that is what scares me about the nay-sayers.
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i definitely want to see it. its frightening what us stupid humans can do to our planet.
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I just farted someone alert Al Gore that his time table to the end of time just was flucuated by my personal methane production lab.. HURRY TIME IS SHORT!! :Oh crap
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Yep, no doubt that global climate changes occur naturally - who's disputing that? Around 1000AD, there were effing dairy farms on Greenland - dairy farms! A mini-ice age occurred around 1400 which forced the Scandinavian settlers to abandon them. It happened very quickly and this mini-ice age was well documented in Europe. As it is still far too cold today to have dairy farms on Greenland - I'm not exactly crapping my pants.
There were and will continue to be ice ages and global warming despite what we humans do. It's cyclical. No scientist has been able to establish that all of our emissions alone, taken in the most radical light, could contribute any more than +.25 of a degree. It's happening, but I seriously doubt it's us. |
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there is this intimidating term used to describe the issue called "global warming" which within the context of the discussion implies that the climate should remain constant or that no warming should be occuring naturally. the simple fact is that there is no widespread agreement on whats happening, why, what degree of change is natural, what isn't etc.... BUT at the end of the day, you only get continued research funding, grants and attention for scaring people. scientific research is just as biased as anyone in their political views and that bias often occurs out of financial necessity. . |
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I have the DVD but have have not watched it yet
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You can collect your t-shirt on the way out. |
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