Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11772325)

thats the problem. these discussions, the rhetoric and the arguments are almost never kept within the proper context of the fact that climate change occurs naturally and the actual discussion is what part of the current climate change is natural, what part is the result of mankinds contribution.

there is this intimidating term used to describe the issue called "global warming" which within the context of the discussion implies that the climate should remain constant or that no warming should be occuring naturally.

the simple fact is that there is no widespread agreement on whats happening, why, what degree of change is natural, what isn't etc.... BUT at the end of the day, you only get continued research funding, grants and attention for scaring people. scientific research is just as biased as anyone in their political views and that bias often occurs out of financial necessity.


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Originally Posted by hottoddy (Post 11772229)

As it is still far too cold today to have dairy farms on Greenland - I'm not exactly crapping my pants.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11768814)

if al gore had won as the polls said he did we'd be in a VERY different and I'd be willing to bet BETTER world today

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11768611)

What I will buy into is the fact that oil is drying up. I'm trying to figure out what we'll do thirty years from now when we cannot make gasoline. Life as we know it will change radically overnight.

Originally Posted by More Booze (Post 12377238)

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Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 11768699)

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ooo shit its manbearpig

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11768817)

watch the movie. :2 cents:

it's REALLY worth it.


basically it says temp increases are a direct result to CO2 inclreases and has data to prove it - and it gets SCARRY

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12377352)

is that what ended the ice age?

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 11768611)

"Something is happening" but as of yet I don't believe what anyone is saying. Years ago it was the ozone layer, but that problem seems to have fixed itself - rather quickly too I might add.

The truth is that we are guests on this planet and we have been here long enough to gauge what the weather is really like.