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studiocritic 02-02-2007 10:49 PM

I think a lot of you comparing Smallpox to HPV are out of your minds.

Are you serious?

One is communicative, casually. The other requires, by and large, that you engage in sexual activities with a willing partner.

Two people. Making a decision. Just like it's their right to decide whether they want this.

Webby 02-02-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 11846297)
I also see both sides of that coin. While I am for cutting back on the cancer, And I know that if it were not required of them, LOTs would not have it, I see the new drug, and wonder how safe, and what could happen in the future.

Agree PG - there are two sides and both are valid.

The danger prob creeps in with pressure from elsewhere - ie commercial interests of drugs companies. These rarely have the interests of individuals and, you prob know, "FDA approved" means very little.

I'd hate to be a politician who gave an order for the injection of kids with a product which did not have a full trial history and subsequently turned out to be damaging - but, that too, would be covered up like most drug company problems.

psili 02-02-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic (Post 11846306)
I think a lot of you comparing Smallpox to HPV are out of your minds.

Are you serious?

One is communicative, casually. The other requires, by and large, that you engage in sexual activities with a willing partner.

Two people. Making a decision. Just like it's their right to decide whether they want this.

You're assuming the two people are making an "intelligent" decision and that they want to possibly pass on a virus that can kill the female.

Fuck that shit.

I think humans of this planet should follow the Tehrone and force themselves out of existence if they can't handle it:

studiocritic 02-02-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by psili (Post 11846496)
You're assuming the two people are making an "intelligent" decision and that they want to possibly pass on a virus that can kill the female.

Fuck that shit.

I think humans of this planet should follow the Tehrone and force themselves out of existence if they can't handle it:

I've read this at least five times, and I can't figure out what your point is.

Are you agreeing with me?

SomeCreep 02-02-2007 11:40 PM

That vaccine is revolutionary. Currently, it only works for women. There is a vaccine in the works for men though also. This vaccine is not a cure for HPV. It only works in preventing HPV, for women who do not already have it.

Jace 02-02-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 11846597)
That vaccine is revolutionary. Currently, it only works for women. There is a vaccine in the works for men though also. This vaccine is not a cure for HPV. It only works in preventing HPV, for women who do not already have it.

my sister in law is head of marketing and research of the "one less" campaign for Merck....she LOVES what she is doing for the first time in her life

uno 02-03-2007 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11845747)
I already regulate which ones my kids can have. And since this isn't something that can be spread, no way in hell my 11 year old would ever be allowed to get it. Bs law or not...

HPV is an STD and can be spread. :upsidedow

Nysus 02-03-2007 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 11845626)
I wonder about the mentality of parents that would refuse a vaccine for thier child when it just may save thier life later down the road.

Or maybe those who are opposed here arent even parents?

All vaccines cause a certain % of death. Causing people to take something is wrong. There are other natural things which can reduce and prevent or aid your body in killing off cancers better.

I bet you are all game for the ads on TV for depression that use sad and depressing music to make people think they're sad or more sad than they really are, and which then reminds them of the prescription medication whenever they're maybe a little sad? That's actually illegal in Canada, though US stations still are able to broadcast them in sadly.

Sly 02-03-2007 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic (Post 11846514)
I've read this at least five times, and I can't figure out what your point is.

Are you agreeing with me?

He's saying that when 2 14 year olds decide to get jiggy with it they aren't exactly considering the consequences, especially consequences they don't even know about.

spunkmaster 02-03-2007 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11845724)
Hahaha the liberals dont know how to react to this one.
There is already MANDATORY vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases all over America lol.


I was at the gym last week and there were about 5-6 nurses talking about this for an hour.

They were all saying the Gov't needs to make this a requirement because it costs over $300 for the shots and insurance companies and medicade etc. won't cover the shots unless it's required just like many other required shots we get.

Women can actually get it by birth (birth canal) when they are born so it doesn't take sex to get the virus.

I suspect that if a liberal govenor did this the left would be calling them a hero !

Boobzooka 02-03-2007 02:25 AM

Statistically, it's almost certain that most of the people in this thread have been exposed to the HPV virus. :helpme * assuming webmasters are sexually-active.

blwurmnd 02-03-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 11846597)
That vaccine is revolutionary. Currently, it only works for women. There is a vaccine in the works for men though also. This vaccine is not a cure for HPV. It only works in preventing HPV, for women who do not already have it.

I have 4 month old twins and have been researching like crazy about all of the vaccines out there. I found that with most vaccines, you have a higher chance of suffering a significant side effect than actually contracting whatever it aimes to protect you against. Also, pretty much all vaccines out there only protect you for a couple of years, so unless you are getting regular boosters, they are useless by the time you reach adulthood. Even my pediatrician (who is very mainstream), thinks that certain vaccines are completely unnecessary and has no idea why they are required, except that they create an insane revenue for drug companies.. such as Hepatitis B.

As far as the HPV vaccine, it only protects you against 2 out of 16 strands of HPV. So even if you have the vaccine and it works as it is supposed to, you still have a high chance of contracting one of the other 14 strands of the virus... all the while taking great chances with unknown long-term side effects of the vaccine.

The good thing is that most, if not all, states have a religious exemption. Parents can fill out a form stating that they have religious beliefs against vaccinations and proof of vaccinations will not be required for school. The only downside to this exemption is that if you choose to use it, you cant get any vaccines, otherwise the exemption wont apply. Some states also have a philosophical exemption, which allows you to pick and choose the vaccines you get for your kids.

Agent 488 02-03-2007 10:16 PM

anything to prevent cancer -

cherrylula 02-03-2007 10:19 PM

Another reason to keep your children out of the public school system.

Jman 02-03-2007 10:40 PM

Only in America...

ae-sc 02-03-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by psili (Post 11845455)
Are you against immunization shots?

Granted, it's a new vaccine. So I'm torn.
1. You have a vaccine that can prevent forms of cervical cancer.
2. You have a new vaccine that could cause other issues later on that haven't been tested.

*shrug*

You raisea strong point. but many of these will not be known for at least a good five years down the road.

baddog 02-04-2007 12:39 AM

Brought to you by the same fuckers that made you get vaccinated against polio.

How dare they.

notabook 02-04-2007 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11854407)
Brought to you by the same fuckers that made you get vaccinated against polio.

How dare they.

Those bastards :mad:

E$_manager 02-04-2007 08:37 AM

I think it should be done everywhere. I have this virus and can't get rid of it. I wished my daughter wouldn't have that problem.

a1ka1ine 02-04-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons (Post 11845965)
Requiring a vaccine for a sexually transmitted virus for school children is fucking insane. Most will not have sex at all but have to take the risk that this virtually untested shot will actually cause them problems 20 years from now.

STUPID.

my thoughts exactly.

i wonder how much the d00d was paid by the drug company!

E$_manager 02-04-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons (Post 11845965)
Requiring a vaccine for a sexually transmitted virus for school children is fucking insane. Most will not have sex at all but have to take the risk that this virtually untested shot will actually cause them problems 20 years from now.

STUPID.

You know that a pregnant woman will give this virus to her child? That means that her baby will have to grow up with this virus without even knowing it, and that would probably develope to cervical cancer.
Don't you think a woman would like to take the risk of the knew vaccine to prevent the future generation from that desase?

pink_in_the_middle 02-04-2007 10:00 AM

Before these H.P.V commercials that are on about every 30 seconds, when else have you heard of H.P.V?

Me, never. Not once before those commercials. I don't plan on getting it and my daughter will not get it, if at some point they tell her she needs to. They tell you that you need this this and this for your children to be safe, but you have no clue what they are injecting into your kids, and I don't feel too safe about that. I don't know enough about this H.P.V epidemic to inject my daughter so I'm not. For all the parents who say " any parents not considering this is stupid" bla bla bla. Doctors don't know everything, so don't always take their word at face value. And trust your government...nah I don't think so. I'm better off looking after myself, thanks.

mikeyddddd 02-04-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11854407)
Brought to you by the same fuckers that made you get vaccinated against polio.

How dare they.

They're not the same fuckers.

Eisenhower recommended, under advice from the Surgeon General, that the Congress enact legislation for a polio vaccination program.

I'm not against the vaccine. I'm against a politician bypassing the legislative process, under dubious circumstances, to mandate that the HPV vaccination be given to all the 11 and 12 year-old girls in Texas.

Historic Erotica 02-04-2007 11:53 AM

the totalitarian 2 step..next will be you must get this chip under your skin because we want to protect you from bird flu terror disease..the Gov. doesn't give 2 shits about anyones health or well being..why would this be any different..freedom, isn't it a beautiful thing..

be scared get this shot because obviously you not strong or smart enough to realize its all in your head anyways..

Trixxxia 02-04-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 11845626)
Or maybe those who are opposed here arent even parents?

In my case, I'm a mother of two. I just don't believe in over medicating my kids. I don't believe in giving antibiotics for everything. Call me crazy or lucky, but I don't use the medical system very much.

I still do not believe giving my daughter a shot when her reproductive system is developing is a good thing. By the time she gets to that age, my mind may change - if there are problems with the shots, hopefully by then there will be enough 'cases' to allow me to judge the risks & benefits better.

I do not think that the government knows what's best for my children. I do not think that the government knows my children's medical history hence they should not be 'blanket' recommending it - (I read that you do have the choice to refuse it).


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