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Hotrocket 02-06-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873362)
I said there are bigger threats to this industry than a "what if" visa stops processing adult scenario. There are.

you've made 5 posts in this thread and have yet to provide a single example of those "bigger threats"

Hotrocket 02-06-2007 08:04 PM

actually it doesnt matter..the point of this thread is to discuss new ideas

will76 02-06-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873234)
i apologize for coming across so negatively. i am far from understanding the intricate workings of the credit card industry, but i am able to point out a few huge problems with your idea. so sue me for telling you the Easter Bunny isn't real. i could throw out fantasy ideas that would be great for the industry, but i prefer to think on more realistic terms.

i mean, whatever, keep the dream alive i guess lol.

bullshit. i think you are a negative person and you prefer to tell people they are wrong instead of trying to offer an alternative or suggestions on how something can be done better. What do you think would help the industry ? what do you think would be a good alterntive methods to process ? checks LOL :1orglaugh thats all i see on your site, credit card and checks, If anything happens to visa how many people you think only have visa and don't have discover or mastercard ? What would you do besides pray nothing happens to visa ?

For my idea, you don't have all of the details. My idea wasn't thought up while i was taking a shit as you put it. Secondly, you don't think anyone can compete with visa nor do you think they should, therefore doesn't matter what i say you have your mind made up. You made bunch of comments that are totally ridiculous so again more reason for me not to waste more time getting into the details.

reynold 02-06-2007 08:14 PM

Well....... it seems that after 2000, Adult has finally been outstripped by Mainstream when it comes to adopting new trends. Shit..... Web 2.0 is almost all MAINSTREAM, you don't see adult versions of that.

Maybe the reputation of adult as being first adopters/early adopters of technology only applies to shit that is directly applicable like webcam networks, streaming video, affiliate programs, etc

Quickdraw 02-06-2007 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 11871862)
The industry needs more self-righteous crusaders.

Or maybe fewer scammers, cheaters, and thieves.

will76 02-06-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873362)
I said there are bigger threats to this industry than a "what if" visa stops processing adult scenario. There are.

like what???? Your comments are getting old. You make reference to the easter bunny but that is all you will say. Why do you keep making statements without putting any substance to it.

What do you think is more of a threat to the industry than losing visa. Everything is a fucking what if. What if .xxx happens. What if the 2257 regulations don't get changed.

Anything that hasn't happend yet is a what if.

will76 02-06-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jay23 (Post 11873376)
What happend to that company (was is 123billing) that loand money to guys with out credit card so they can join a site, but then send money at a later time by mail ?

Jay


I don't know but there are 100 ways to fuck up a good idea. SO if they didn't make it work it doesn't mean the idea is bad.

it's not like a credit card is a new concept. It is proven business model that makes billions.

Question " what does the adult industry need" i through out, an alternative to visa, a payment method where people can "charge it" instead of having to fund it and is independent from visa. no no can't happen/ Can never be done. bad idea, no way, it's visa for life baby! we don't need anything else, to think other wise and you must be clueless, how could anyone think of something so stupid as an alternative to visa. wow what an retarded way of thinking.

I wonder why i don't want to post here anymore unless i am looking for something. I try to encourage some good thinking and new ideas, get a little business thread going and all you get is the " you must be stupid, that will never happen" people.

GigoloMason 02-06-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11873424)
For my idea, you don't have all of the details. My idea wasn't thought up while i was taking a shit as you put it. Secondly, you don't think anyone can compete with visa nor do you think they should, therefore doesn't matter what i say you have your mind made up. You made bunch of comments that are totally ridiculous so again more reason for me not to waste more time getting into the details.

He never said that at all. He just said the particular model you presented was poorly thought out. There's no viable way to push it onto the consumer market.

will76 02-06-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JOP (Post 11873108)
wire transfer?

nope a way to use a credit card without any chargebacks.

s9ann0 02-06-2007 08:33 PM

what we really need is will77

BusterBunny 02-06-2007 08:33 PM

the 50 spot :2 cents:

KrisKross 02-06-2007 08:34 PM

A pills program should pay you to give away free pills.

No, wait... PureMeds does that.

See sig.

dirtysouth 02-06-2007 09:05 PM

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/703524-site-videos-google-youtube-combined.html

If it's gonna happen, that cat is gonna be at the forefront. :thumbsup

vvq 02-06-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11873424)
bullshit. i think you are a negative person and you prefer to tell people they are wrong instead of trying to offer an alternative or suggestions on how something can be done better.

I'm not a negative person. I just think you have a very stupid idea. I'm sure there are a million reasons why "creating a credit card company" just isn't a viable or realistic business idea. Especially one catered to adult internet pornography purchases. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. You're more than welcome to prove me wrong though.

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What do you think would help the industry ?
A time machine. Which probably has just as much of a chance of happening as you creating a successful credit card company that competes with visa.

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what do you think would be a good alterntive methods to process ? checks LOL :1orglaugh thats all i see on your site, credit card and checks, If anything happens to visa how many people you think only have visa and don't have discover or mastercard ? What would you do besides pray nothing happens to visa ?
You're an idiot. I said if visa stopped processing right now you would see an increase in alternative payment methods. Checking, MC, Discover, phone billing, etc. Overall you would see a drop in sales, but an increase in transactions going through the other billing options. Common sense here man.

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For my idea, you don't have all of the details.
Clearly. The whole part where you explained why it would make any sense at all was left out.

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My idea wasn't thought up while i was taking a shit as you put it.
The premise of your business idea might make one think otherwise.

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Secondly, you don't think anyone can compete with visa nor do you think they should, therefore doesn't matter what i say you have your mind made up.
I'm all for competition. MC seems to be chipping away. It's really not a matter of opinion anyway. It's a fact that no one is able to compete with Visa. Just look at how many major cc companies there are. I think attempting to compete with them is an unrealistic idea to begin with. Especially with some adult porn card gimmick. If you're in a position where launching a credit card company is even viable, adult internet is the least of your worries.

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You made bunch of comments that are totally ridiculous so again more reason for me not to waste more time getting into the details.
Your business idea was to start a credit card company. It's dumb. It's not even an idea. It's like something I would of thought of when I was 12 while standing in line with my mother at the store. I'll get rich by making a credit card company. Of course even at that age I think I would of understood entry into that industry was impossible.

jay23 02-06-2007 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11873455)
I don't know but there are 100 ways to fuck up a good idea. SO if they didn't make it work it doesn't mean the idea is bad.

it's not like a credit card is a new concept. It is proven business model that makes billions.

Question " what does the adult industry need" i through out, an alternative to visa, a payment method where people can "charge it" instead of having to fund it and is independent from visa. no no can't happen/ Can never be done. bad idea, no way, it's visa for life baby! we don't need anything else, to think other wise and you must be clueless, how could anyone think of something so stupid as an alternative to visa. wow what an retarded way of thinking.

I wonder why i don't want to post here anymore unless i am looking for something. I try to encourage some good thinking and new ideas, get a little business thread going and all you get is the " you must be stupid, that will never happen" people.

There is system like this that I like very much and its https://www.netcash.com/engine/overview/welcome , you can even Take Amex.

But the problem with the load and spend aproch is that you are sending the cusotmer on a 2 step proces. What every one has found out is that even with the 15% payment you pay + the charge back fees etc etc cusotmers like to spend money on Visa and not any other way.

Its just what people are used to. Go to UK and you will see people using SMS payment and not using a Visa (even if they have one) and SMS billing cost like 4 times more then what you will pay on Visa but they still use it becauase they are used to it



Jay

Jay

will76 02-06-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873780)
I'm not a negative person. I just think you have a very stupid idea. I'm sure there are a million reasons why "creating a credit card company" just isn't a viable or realistic business idea. Especially one catered to adult internet pornography purchases. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. You're more than welcome to prove me wrong though..

keep telling yourself that buddy... you keep bashing ideas but offer no alternatives... that's a great positve attitude.

jesus, I never said i was going to create a credit card company, i was throwing the idea out there that I thought it would be a good idea if someone created one, an alternative to visa and for the 10th time in this thread i said i don't think it should be built around porn, just porn friendly.


Quote:

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873780)
A time machine. Which probably has just as much of a chance of happening as you creating a successful credit card company that competes with visa.
.

so all you think that can help us is a time machine, and i am the idiot :1orglaugh Nice positive suggestion. thanks for sharing we can learn a lot from you.

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Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873780)
You're an idiot. I said if visa stopped processing right now you would see an increase in alternative payment methods. Checking, MC, Discover, phone billing, etc. Overall you would see a drop in sales, but an increase in transactions going through the other billing options. Common sense here man.
.

I see people running out by the millions to get a discover card so they can still get their online porn. I am sure check transaction will replace it too, and phone, no doubt we wont miss a beat :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by vvq (Post 11873780)
Your business idea was to start a credit card company. It's dumb. It's not even an idea. It's like something I would of thought of when I was 12 while standing in line with my mother at the store. I'll get rich by making a credit card company. Of course even at that age I think I would of understood entry into that industry was impossible.

wow so you had ideas like this when you were only 12, you are sooo smart. You must be brillant at the age you are now, is it in your 20's ? Why don't you share some of your brillant ideas you have .


I doubt you will, you will continue to refuse to tell us a better solution and you also refuse to tell us what you t hink the bigger threats are to online porn. You are not a negative person, LOL keep telling yourself that.

i'm not a negative person :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

SleazyDream 02-06-2007 10:09 PM

less people that try and take credit for others ideas and run them in their sigs :2 cents:

will76 02-06-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11873892)
less people that try and take credit for others ideas and run them in their sigs :2 cents:

yeah thats a great idea and will help the industry about as much as all you can eat buffet.

Do you have any other big ideas, maybe a new tgp ?

SleazyDream 02-06-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11873911)
yeah thats a great idea and will help the industry about as much as all you can eat buffet.

Do you have any other big ideas, maybe a new tgp ?

thinking of starting a spyware company that targets only your sites actually :2 cents:


wonder how much I'd make off that :pimp

will76 02-06-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11873933)
thinking of starting a spyware company that targets only your sites actually :2 cents:


wonder how much I'd make off that :pimp

buck fifty.

I guess you would be using your tgp to install it people's computers ? great idea.

Hotrocket 02-06-2007 10:55 PM

Was just reading about this courtesy of slashdot

http://openid.net/

http://iwantmyopenid.org/

This or something similar could solve the age verification issue

at any rate, its an interesting project

GigoloMason 02-06-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11873885)
I doubt you will, you will continue to refuse to tell us a better solution and you also refuse to tell us what you t hink the bigger threats are to online porn. You are not a negative person, LOL keep telling yourself that.

i'm not a negative person :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

He never claimed to have a solution. He just said you're an idiot. I think that's pared down enough.

Seriously you're idea is pretty much on par with making a time machine, for all intents and purposes so I don't really see why you think you're being any more constructive.

SleazyDream 02-07-2007 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11873998)
buck fifty.

I guess you would be using your tgp to install it people's computers ? great idea.

been there - done that. did it to my german traffic many years ago when germany sent me nasty letters. stopped doing it many years ago once i felt my vengence on german people was properly dished out. :2 cents:

i'm thinking you got the idea though cause you've done it in the past.

yes - i've made mad money - sucks eh?

will76 02-07-2007 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason (Post 11874165)
He never claimed to have a solution. He just said you're an idiot. I think that's pared down enough.

Seriously you're idea is pretty much on par with making a time machine, for all intents and purposes so I don't really see why you think you're being any more constructive.

i see this must be a traffic gigolo thing ?

thanks for clarification. Did you have these ideas when you were 12 years old too.

He said several times that there were bigger threats to porn then visa pulling out. But he wont say what.

This thread was about posting ideas not bashing them, any idiot can see that, so if you don't have anything to offer get the fuck out of my thread.

will76 02-07-2007 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11874442)
been there - done that. did it to my german traffic many years ago when germany sent me nasty letters. stopped doing it many years ago once i felt my vengence on german people was properly dished out. :2 cents:

i'm thinking you got the idea though cause you've done it in the past.

yes - i've made mad money - sucks eh?


do you have any other ideas you care to share ? besides how you installed spy ware on people's computers...

please clarify the " because you have done it in the past" if you are saying i have installed spyware in the past grow some nuts and be clear with your acusation, then kiss you nick goodbye.

will76 02-07-2007 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kitty_2007 (Post 11874639)
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jesus, GFY is offcially 100% worthless now. If it isn't fucking negative idiots with nothing to share and just looking to bash everything, its the mindless trolls, now the spammers.... unfuckingbelievable. All we are missing now is a couple see sigs.

SleazyDream 02-07-2007 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11874651)
jesus, GFY is offcially 100% worthless now. If it isn't fucking negative idiots with nothing to share and just looking to bash everything, its the mindless trolls, now the spammers.... unfuckingbelievable. All we are missing now is a couple see sigs.


i pissed myself laughing reading this comming from you :2 cents:

tical 02-07-2007 02:05 AM

see sig

45678

tical 02-07-2007 02:06 AM

just kidding, sucks that this shit happens w/ serious threads all the time

maxjohan 02-07-2007 03:04 AM

I think the best thing for adult had been if the value perception of porn increased from $0.5 to atleast $5. :upsidedow

I'm not gonna complain about "free porn" here, but if we all could marketing the paid porn sperated from the free porn... I think that had been good for the industry.

INstead of myfreeporn.com, you could have MyPaidPorn.com and add a tgp to that site instead, like MyPaidPorn.com/tgp/

What do you think? :)

will76 02-07-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 11874666)
see sig

45678

;) lol thanks for making it complete.



It does suck, you try to start a thread to get people sharing ideas this is the shit you get.

this thread was the nail in the coffin for me, i am not going to waste time here unless i am looking for something i need.

Kard63 02-07-2007 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11871846)
These two questions are a little different but should go hand and hand.

What do you think the next "big idea" will be online? If it is something that you are not working on or can not do yourself then please feel free to share.

What does the adult online community need ? (from an affiliate/site owner's perspective, not from a surfer's point of view).


I think we desperately need to be independant from visa. Someone needs to step up and start thier own adult friendly credit card company that actually loans the money out, and is not visa backed. Loan the money out and make it functional like paypal and have it work with nats, ccbill, etc.. and i think it will be an instant overnight success, make billions. It is proven lending (credit companies) make bank. This company would make money on both sides, collecting interest from the users and making a transaction fee for the website owners. Got to love making money on both sides.

The problem is very few people have the finances or can raise the VC to pull off a project like this.

Share your own ideas...


I've got the next big idea but I'm trying to give it to Legendary Lars. Ifriends sucks dick.

will76 02-07-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 11877178)
I've got the next big idea but I'm trying to give it to Legendary Lars. Ifriends sucks dick.

and that has absolutely fucking nothing to do with this thread but thanks for sharing.

jimthefiend 02-07-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11873933)
thinking of starting a spyware company that targets only your sites actually :2 cents:


wonder how much I'd make off that :pimp

:pimp :pimp

jimthefiend 02-07-2007 03:53 PM

Ps: The start your own CC company idea is ludicrous, ill informed and fucking stupid. I expect that from you though. Same shit different day.

BruceM 02-07-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Himuro (Post 11873042)

The adult industry needs more Lucy Liu Bots? :1orglaugh

will76 02-07-2007 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend (Post 11878408)
Ps: The start your own CC company idea is ludicrous, ill informed and fucking stupid. I expect that from you though. Same shit different day.

and i expect this from you. Nothing intelligent to say ever.

all of your posts are about bullshit or bashing people. how can you even begin to open your mouth to say someone's idea is bad when you never had a fucking clue in your life muchless an idea. if i am wrong, share one with us.

and thats what i thought..... you will just make more insults...

typical spineless troll, wont even state reasons why you think the idea is bad. you just say it is bad..... spineless.

scardog 02-07-2007 04:28 PM

I think it would be nice if there was a great alternative to Visa that was in the hands of as many users as own a Visa. But, the incentive to create it is not that big, until Visa actually pulls out. Then, a card that can be loaded by any credit card will thrive, IMO.

Bake 02-07-2007 04:33 PM

The company that works out how to make all debit cards and epos transactions work on the internet from any country at any time will probably do very well.

Bots to spam per to per filling them with masses of short poor quaility movies with embeded pop ups

jimthefiend 02-07-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11874651)
jesus, GFY is offcially 100% worthless now. If it isn't fucking negative idiots with nothing to share and just looking to bash everything, its the mindless trolls, now the spammers.... unfuckingbelievable. All we are missing now is a couple see sigs.

See sig...


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