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TheDoc 02-09-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11889347)
I just get sick of programs doing the bare minimum just so they can announce. WE HAVE RSS!....then ending up surprised because no one uses their feeds

The problem is webmasters think feeds should be created to a unique level for them. My feeds blow ass, simply text and a simple thumb.. yet webmasters use the hell out of them.. If I had better text would more people use them, probably so.. But to say they don't get used or we use RSS feeds just to announce a program isn't true. You can use just a text based feed on a blog, just not yours.

kristin 02-09-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11889347)
I am going to say one more thing, and leave it at that...I hope you or they don't take this the wrong way....but this is the reason half the programs out there have such crappy feeds

A program does something like this to test out the rss waters, and the feed they test it with is bland, linkless and unusable....so, when they figure out that the response is not that great, they don't pursue it further...when in reality if they had just done it right out of the gate they would have an insane response....i.e. Nubile, MediumPimpin, LootDaddy...

I just get sick of programs doing the bare minimum just so they can announce. WE HAVE RSS!....then ending up surprised because no one uses their feeds

Okay, enough you two!

Jace, I'm working as fast as I can ... I had a lot of people asking for feeds and when we put them live in the webmaster admin, I had to announce it. Due to unforseen errors ... I wish I waited on the post.

I will do better descriptions this weekend ... like I said. More suggestions? PLEASE send them our way. We can only make our program better with suggestions ...

Jace 02-09-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11889355)
Yappo has great feeds and is clearly improving them... What problem do you have with that?

And that document you linked, is over a year old. And if you don't think google checks for duplicate content - then you are mistaken.

you all are taken me the wrong way, I do not have any problems, it is just when I see a feed that no one will use I speak up....I will stop worrying about yappo and keep using other programs, no worries

you might wanna tell cnn, msnbc, yahoo and millions of other sites about the duplicate content myth then, because all those syndicated press articles they post might get them sandboxed

i am done now, i can't wait to see v2 of the feeds, you all are off to a good start, it can only get better

kristin 02-09-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11889399)
you all are taken me the wrong way, I do not have any problems, it is just when I see a feed that no one will use I speak up....I will stop worrying about yappo and keep using other programs, no worries

you might wanna tell cnn, msnbc, yahoo and millions of other sites about the duplicate content myth then, because all those syndicated press articles they post might get them sandboxed

i am done now, i can't wait to see v2 of the feeds, you all are off to a good start, it can only get better

Okay, you were taken a little wrong ... to be honest.

But now that we are on the same page ... you just want people to implement the suggestions rather than blasting they have great RSS feeds and then doing nothing to improve them.

That's not us ... I'm here to optimize, it's not a sales pitch it's the truth. Your suggestions have been taken and are ALREADY being worked on. : )

Thanks~Kristin

Jace 02-09-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 11889409)
Okay, you were taken a little wrong ... to be honest.

But now that we are on the same page ... you just want people to implement the suggestions rather than blasting they have great RSS feeds and then doing nothing to improve them.

That's not us ... I'm here to optimize, it's not a sales pitch it's the truth. Your suggestions have been taken and are ALREADY being worked on. : )

Thanks~Kristin

xoxoxoxoxoxo :)

I want to see every program in the world have great rss feeds, that is my mission...don't believe me? go read my previous threads and posts on gfy...LOL...while I am a smart ass a lot, one thing I am passionate about is rss and blogs

glad to see a program willing to work everything, you all have some excellent content in yappo.com that could translate into some INSANE rss feeds, I just hate to see content like this
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Sly 02-09-2007 12:14 PM

All of this yelling has me very upset.

Hold my hand?

Trixxxia 02-09-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Suit (Post 11888942)
We'll try to avoid kicking you Trixxxia. Kristin has done a great job and has gone above and beyond to make sure that the tools webmasters really want are part of the program. We're lucky to have her.

Well I think I deserve it since I was harassing her for it and she came back to me the same day with it but I didn't check LMAO

TheDoc 02-09-2007 12:23 PM

cnn, yahoo, ect all have trust rank factors - duplicate content and even spam doesn't effect or mater with them. You can't not possible google bomb them to give you an idea.

I'm not taking you the wrong way - I just don't think its fair that, often you, bash programs for starting out with basic feeds. (even though some clearly suck) Nobody has to start out perfect, no reason for people to do so.

I can tell you what most programs problems are with feeds. Two things.. We have hell keeping good writers (search how many times I have asked for writers) then the extra $10 per gallery. A $20 gallery is now $30, again cutting into the very thin profits galleries have anyway.

I sell the RSS Feed product for NATS, and I don’t hide anything with the clients. I tell them the truth, RSS feeds is another project, an employee. They can be half ass and they will always be half ass – or you put time and money into them, do them correctly, and people will use the hell out of them. But make no mistake, it is a lot of extra work, money, and time.

That is why I jumped back at you, this isn’t a normal job for the program, so its going to take many of us awhile to catch up to the few people doing it really good.

So what we really need is a full service writing company that can take on lots of programs... I personally could send probably 5-10 clients.

Trixxxia 02-09-2007 12:28 PM

EDIT:: Holy CRAP!!!!!! Just scrolled up ..... hehehe Jace - it's my fault she released them early cuz I was busting the chopparollis hahahah

TheDoc 02-09-2007 12:32 PM

oh and hey jace.. any errors, problems, mistakes, changes, adjustments, with the feed itself, you simply drop me an ICQ and I will get them corrected that day.

Jace 02-09-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11889489)
cnn, yahoo, ect all have trust rank factors - duplicate content and even spam doesn't effect or mater with them. You can't not possible google bomb them to give you an idea.

I'm not taking you the wrong way - I just don't think its fair that, often you, bash programs for starting out with basic feeds. (even though some clearly suck) Nobody has to start out perfect, no reason for people to do so.

I can tell you what most programs problems are with feeds. Two things.. We have hell keeping good writers (search how many times I have asked for writers) then the extra $10 per gallery. A $20 gallery is now $30, again cutting into the very thin profits galleries have anyway.

I sell the RSS Feed product for NATS, and I don?t hide anything with the clients. I tell them the truth, RSS feeds is another project, an employee. They can be half ass and they will always be half ass ? or you put time and money into them, do them correctly, and people will use the hell out of them. But make no mistake, it is a lot of extra work, money, and time.

That is why I jumped back at you, this isn?t a normal job for the program, so its going to take many of us awhile to catch up to the few people doing it really good.

So what we really need is a full service writing company that can take on lots of programs... I personally could send probably 5-10 clients.

Please remember though, that myth you are sticking too, applies in different curcumstances...if a blog user is responsible about what he publishes and does it the right way, the duplicate content myth won't affect him nearly as much as you think it will.
I am a first hand case of the truth to that

the ONLY thing I use is rss, and it has been that way for almost 9 months now, and I have top rankings in every SE for terms that would make newbies cum their pants....I have never been penalized, and in all seriousness, my shit just keeps growing...

so, it is all up to the webmaster how they use it, and I think it is kind of wierd that a program owner/programmer would play police on what he thinks I should and shouldn't use....those dvd text write ups are killer, and I could hate to NOT use those in a feed....especially when it is something as simple as polling a mysql database and placing them in the feed.

as for bashing programs for starting out with basic feeds...I don't really have much to say about that, except for if you aren't going to do it right, don't do it at all. GFY is a WEALTH of knowledge on this subject, and if a program isn't going to sit for a while and read up on what their affiliates want, then oh well.

yes, gallery feeds might get you some traffic, but you are in the small percentage of who that is working for. I get contacted on ICQ daily these days asking me why programs won't put out good rss feeds, and while I am working with a lot of programs on their feeds, majority of the feeds out there SUCK, and it is just silly as a sponsor to try and enter in to a realm of promotion for affiliates that they haven't read up on or researched...and when a program comes out with a single image and a line of text, it is obvious they spent no time researching and lots of time building

Jace 02-09-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11889489)
So what we really need is a full service writing company that can take on lots of programs... I personally could send probably 5-10 clients.

hey man, on this note, I actually have someone close to me that expressed interest in doing full time writing last night, he is really good and has worked with a larger program for quite a while now writing their shit. Want me to send him your way?

kristin 02-09-2007 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11889583)
hey man, on this note, I actually have someone close to me that expressed interest in doing full time writing last night, he is really good and has worked with a larger program for quite a while now writing their shit. Want me to send him your way?

Send him TheDoc's way, my way, and about a half of dozen others ...

Seriously though, send him my ICQ or email please.

kristin @ yappodollars . com
ICQ #: 147-945-440

I had a gallery writer several times .... the last one, no lie, was working on the RSS feed descriptions then disappeared for 11 days. No descriptions, so then I did them -- I guess wrong too. ; )

So yes, text writer please!

Jace 02-09-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 11889616)
Send him TheDoc's way, my way, and about a half of dozen others ...

Seriously though, send him my ICQ or email please.

kristin @ yappodollars . com
ICQ #: 147-945-440

I had a gallery writer several times .... the last one, no lie, was working on the RSS feed descriptions then disappeared for 11 days. No descriptions, so then I did them -- I guess wrong too. ; )

So yes, text writer please!

wow, that sucks, I am so sorry...people in this biz are so flakey....this guy isn't though, he is as dependable as they come

as soon as he gets back from lunch expect a icq :)

TheDoc 02-09-2007 12:48 PM

I would be interested in talking to them. I don't have a full time job open, but between a mixture of clients they could have full time work, if the price is right :)

TheDoc 02-09-2007 12:55 PM

Hey jace, if you would like to continue this over ICQ that would be great. Some details I would like to discuss that need to stay in more private area.

tenderobject 02-09-2007 01:03 PM

hey guys did you fix topbucks rss feeds as well? not usable in my aggregator :( will just wait for yappo updates with their rss feeds

Jace 02-09-2007 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11889709)
Hey jace, if you would like to continue this over ICQ that would be great. Some details I would like to discuss that need to stay in more private area.

you have been added :)

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