A new GFY classic.

After reading your thoughts, I clicked on your sig and saw that you make money promoting a site called "Girls Left Alone"

Amazing that you would even open your mouth in this thread. Just AMAZING.

We see now where your motivation comes from, you are just trying to make a buck.

I would be wondering what are the causes behind my 12 year old daughter being on the internet trolling for sex was. Obviously my utter failure at parenting is to blame.

The police are not pissed at all. They work with the show and arrest the poeple as they leave the house. They are well aware of what is going on in and informed about what they are doing before they get to a new town. The show is not responsible for his death and if you actually are stupid enough to believe that, then you are a major dumbass. They show did not make him go online and troll for a young child. He made the choice. I am sure it was not his first time doing it, and I am happy it was his last. I wish they would all shot and kill themselves. It would be doing us all a favor.

No one acted out muder and revenge on this man. Are you smoking crack? He was a pervert that was caught being a pervert. No one made him log online looking for kids. No one made him shoot himself. He shot himself because he knew he had fucked up big time and would have to pay the price.

The pedo's are not smart or there would not be so many shows by Dateline. They are stupid and obsessed with finding kids. They will still troll the internet and they will still get their ass caught. I personally am glad that this show is doing so well. Someone needs to get these sick fucks in jail. More shows need to take an interest and bust these pervs.

Seems to me you are on the side of the pervs? Why is that? You think it is ok to lure children in and molest them? That is basically what your posting is saying.

Yeah? So?

LOL, Exactly.

There is no sense in discussing this with you further. I just read your last post and based on your philosophy of society, if a 12 year old girl's parents drop the ball, then what the hell, 45 year olds are free to do what they want with her.

LOL I should chase down everyone who hit on my 14 year old cousin and demand they castrate themselves.

p.s.

If there weren't so many lonely, horny, and poorly-raised girls on the internet trolling for sex, you wouldn't have these guys ready and willing to take advantage of naive, poorly-raised white trash future porn stars.


Again, a great example of treating the symptoms and not the disease.

What do I think a grey haired old man thinks of a 60 yr old man having sex with an 18 year old woman? "Wow, thats hot" "I'm going to need some tissue in a minute" "Must be nice to be a porn star sometimes" lol, things like that. Normal thoughts from normal people.

I dont think anyone can say definitively that there is an increase in old men trying to pick up younger women. And the only study I recall is the one I mentioned that found criminal sexual offenses were down since the adult internet became so large. Wish I could remember where it was from or when, or I'd try to cite it with a link or whatever.

I say you're wrong, and you and others here are looking at things all wrong as far as porn is concerned. Porn is there to indulge people's fantasies, and as much as a lot of folks hate to admit it, every one of us has fantasies. All kinds. The saving grace is that most of us are mature enough to differentiate between fantasy and reality, and what is legal and what isn't.

The law in Murphy (as well as in many other parts of the US) says that if you act on those urges and start talking sex with a minor or yes, even a decoy who leads you to believe he/she is a minor, and you agree to meet that minor for sex, you are in violation. It's easy to play armchair lawyer and talk about the "rights" of those caught doing this, but that all changes when it's your own son or daughter being pursued by these people.

Porn isn't to blame, much as some would like it think it is. AND, it you said in an earlier post the following-- "I hardly think any of these men are "predators". These are not the type of guys that would kidnap a 6 year old."

Wrong. You can't assume that, sorry. For one thing, some of the offenders have shown up with loaded weapons in their vehicles. Several have been recorded as saying they want to take the child somewhere, for this or that or to a motel. No one can say for certain what their intentions were but they sure sound suspicious to me. I wouldn't want to find out either, would you?

Some of you really do sound like you are speaking up on behalf of the poor predators, but I'm sorry to inform you that at least in my case anyway you are wasting your time... Those caught deserve what they get, every bit of shame, every minute of jailtime, every dollar of a fine, etc, and more. Whatever the punishment is in any given area it probably isn't enough, as most of these guys sing the same sad song, "I'm so weak! I'm stupid! I knew it was wrong and I did it anyway! I'm so ashamed! I'm gonna get fired from my job!" then after this is all over they are likely to go out and try it again on another kid.

Stop defending them. Stop rationalizing it, stop trying to blame it on porn, society, history etc. It doesn't wash. Making the move from fantasy to reality by hitting or a minor online and then seeking out that minor in hopes of god-knows-what is a choice.

And others here need to stop crying about this show, because the show is raising awareness on the side of the parents and kids out there, in addition to to their main focus. I think that's a good thing, because if there are this many guys prowling for young teens and 12 yr olds out there (and younger), there has to be quite a few precocious little brats (for real, not decoys) putting themselves at risk. Parents need to wake up, and they need to give their kids a major reality check about this, about flirting online with older strange men. This show gives them the opportunity to learn what's going on out there and just how frightening it can be.

It's a non-argument as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, and as far as your hot young cousin goes, it's one thing for a 30 yr old guy to look her way, it's quite another for that guy to, after finding out how young she is, knowingly continue to pursue her and try to fuck her don't you think? I don't know a guy in the world who hasn't looked at a good looking young hottie and thought "man, she's hot", but as I said before, most know that acting on it is wrong thus the mature choice is made to not take it further. You can't trust kids to make the right choice, shouldn't we as adults have the onus placed on us to make that choice?

Prediction: The show stays.

Oh, I see where you are coming from. These people should be protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I get it now.

Children are at risk. THAT is, and should be, the FIRST priority.

I would hope they're not free to do whatever they want, but I certainly think jailing someone for it is wrong. Couselling for both the 12 year old and her parents would make more sense. The 45 year old's sheer embarressment of being caught, and having his wife and own children told should be enough to make him change his ways, or is it? seize his computer and search it for underage porn to find a better indication of whether he's a pedo or not. My cousin was 14 and looked like a damn near full grown adult. If a 12 year old looks fully developed and you checked her out before knowing her age, are you a pedo?

Ehh... it's not clear cut either way. We draw the line at the age of consent, which in CANADA is 14. Everywhere has different laws, but the truth is, we're all fundamentally programmed by evolution to want post-pubescent girls, anything other than that and you're in pedo-territory.

I guess then we need parenting classes and the government more actively involved with helping parents raise children. Hell, I'm all for the government choosing who is allowed to have children, and when. I'm pretty sure in the not too distant future, I could see humans living in a society with controlled births. ( The world's population is exploding in size, something will need to happen. )


Children are at risk, yes, moreso by a lack of parenting, or moreso by the apparent MASSIVE amount of men out there trying to solicit sex from them? The most fucked up thing is how many men are willing to drive, in some cases, 2 hours to meet these girls.

Very good post man, and I do agree with some of what you wrote.


Many adults cannot handle choices about drugs, alcohol, or even what to wear. What makes you put so much faith in their abilities to NOT visit a horny 13 year old that apparently wants them to go bang them?


Which is worse, the fact that a 13 year old is on the internet, alone, unsupervised trying to hook up, or the fact that there are dozens of potential suitors lurking in the shadows of the internet? Fact is, the internet is SO new that human beings are faced with an entirely unseen set of circumstances. Now people who normally would never interact are able to communicate and be put in touch with anyone they desire. When I was growing up, the 13 year olds I knew when I was 15, they would smoke weed behind the community centre and give out blowjobs to anyone who could supply them with a joint or a 40 oz of Bull Max. ( The troubled teen girls! ) Now where are these girls? Guess what, they're on the internet looking for older men who have money, because @ 15 years old, my friends and I would have the rare chance to get booze, and even when we could, we didn't have the money for it.



I'm just wondering here, does it make more sense to tackle the majority problem of men willing to do these girls, or the minority problem of these girls who obviously aren't well taken care of?


Then again, both sides of the fence would be very hard to detect and treat, without stings like this one....


Why can't they do REVERSE stings? Show up at a 13 year old's house and interview her as to why she's trolling these chatrooms? Then find her parent(s) and confront them on their child's use of the internet?

where's the youtube link?

I've asked that same question before on various boards. There is obviously another side to the problem that Dateline isn't openly presenting, yes. Frankly I'd love to see an episode or two where they confont a few kids.

But the show by it's very nature does server to increase awareness, and hopefully put a scare into a few parents and kids as to what's going on out there and the kinds of things that can happen.

Yeah it's a fucked up world man. Those same kids who are on chatrooms trolling for sex... do you think they surf porn as well? Another thing humans didn't have extremely easy access to before the internet... Just some things to think about. The internet has created an entirely new set of issues for parents to deal with, and I'm afraid many parents are completely unaware and these children who grow up extremely fucked up are a direct result. :2 cents:

For all of those that say this show is entrapment it really isn't.

What happens on this show is no different than when a female cop dresses like a hooker and walks the streets and they arrest the guys that solicit her. The guys pull over and talk to her and she offers them sex for money and they agree. They are then arrests.

Or what happens when an undercover cop buys drugs from a dealer. They offer the dealer money for drugs and then arrest the guy once the deal is made.

There really is no difference. The cops are presenting a situation to people and those people are reacting in an illegal manner. Many laws are enforced on on a good faith basis meaning that people know the law and understand the difference between right and wrong and know if they do the wrong thing they might get busted for it. Take speed limits for example. You may know the speed limit is 55. It doesn't mean you are going to stay under it. If you choose to speed you might get away with it, but you may also get caught. The cop hiding behind the building with a radar gun didn't entrap you into speeding. You knew what you were doing was wrong.

These guys on the show seek out kids and chat with them then get sexual and actually go to meet them. It's not as if they don't know how old these kids are. It's one thing if you have a sexual conversation with someone who lies to you and tells you they are 19 and then you find out later they are 13, it's another thing all together when you know right from the start that they are 13. I don't buy the argument that they are lonely and horny and just looking for someone. There is no shortage of adults on the Internet looking for the same. Between all the dating sites, chat rooms, craigslist and sites like Myspace anyone can meet people their age that live near them.

Exactly. Why some of you are defending these sick fucks is beyond total comprehension. Are you saying if a 13 year old struck up a convo with you on ICQ and begged and pleaded with you to come over to his/her house for a night of drinking and sex you'd show up?!! :helpme

I know you were replying to someone else, but you completely, totally, absolutely missed the point of anything I wrote.

Isn't it quite funny how these "sick fucks" hold some pretty high positions in our society?

No, it's not "funny". In fact, the words I'd use are "pathetic", "scary", "disgusting" and more. I use those words towards those defending them too.

No one forces these guys to keep the chatroom open and chat with minors about sex.

100 misguided defenders of child rape

unfucknbelievable

You must be slow or just just plain stupid. 99 percent of the kids in chat rooms are not trolling for sex. They are just chatting with people they think are their age. These adults go into chat rooms that are for children and pretend to be younger then they really are. For you to blame a child because a pervert is hitting on them shows what a scum bag you really are. Let's blame the kids instead of the adults who know better. Nice attitude there loser.

Aren't you content? Don't you have some cock to suck?

I've watched some of these shows, and the chatrooms they have setup have VERY VERY VERY suggestive names. So much so that I wouldn't repeat on here what some of them were even called.


Please, answer me this, if you have a chatroom setup named something like:


"Dadsanddaughters"


What do you think is going to go on in there? The chatroom names they use are EXTREMELY suggestive. Look at some of the stories on www.perverted-justice.com.


Plus, can you name what % of these guys were found to have any illegal content on their PC? That is the number one thing they look for when they look for a pedo. In only a few cases I can remember have they found illegal materials on the home pc.

Nice response you gave her. And no, she's right, that prosecutor guy who killed himself was in his 50's and was posing as a 26 yr old to the decoy.



But to JaneB, I disagree with the notion that there isn't a problem out there with the kids themselves that needs to be addressed. They aren't all the little innocent darlings you'd like to believe they are. It's not about blaming the kids for this, it's about letting them know that the time they spend chatting away on their bedroom computer isn't as safe as probably most of them think it is. The kids that ARE chatting back and encouraging sex talk online really need a big wakeup call in my opinion. If you think there aren't actual kids out there inviting older guys over for some fun while the parents are away, think again. I bet it's more common that you or perhaps anyone here even dreams it is.

Nailing the creeps who pursue them is only part of the solution. A good start, yes, but kids need to learn that it's not okay at their age to be flirting with disaster.

serves him right. those fuckers should die.

Boy, you really are ignorant.

Dateline didn't create the chat room. Those chat rooms, and others like them, have been around for years.

And, again, you make money by promoting a site called Girls Home Alone. You have no credibility in this thread, or on this topic.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:17...catchapredator

Funny spoof

Don't need one for news stories.

Wrong, his family is suing...

We don't get this shit in Australia, this show sounds insane :)

The closest I've seen on our TV is maybe "Cheaters" which is pretty tame compared to what I hear here..

I want trashy tv damnit!

I fully agree with websiex. You guys making fun of him and twisting his words to sound like a guy who supports pedophiles are morons. You guys bitch and whine about what the government is trying to do to you, and how it's unconstitutional... well so is this.... I am all for getting these sick fucks off the streets, but airing it on national tv is going a bit far.

In some peoples eyes, us making 18 year olds look like they are 15 in their pics *cough* littleapril *cough* is just as bad... do we want them to make a show based on busting people promoting her? would that be fair?

:1orglaugh

plain and simple are the people who they catch intop underage boys and girls? YES! So they deserve everything that comes to em end of fucking story, think if they would hit your kid up or your little brother or sister.

These fuckers are the lowest scum on earth the prob is so maybe lawyers and DA's seem to be part of the scum so these guys get no or little jail time.

is there a link anywhereE??

And they will lose.

His sister needs a huge dose of reality.

Anyone can sue. Winning is a different story.

I have to disagree with CD on this being a problem with the kids. It's a problem with the PARENTS. Stop using the computer (and TV/video games/etc.) as a babysitter! Don't let kids use the computer unless you're in the room and WATCH what they're saying/doing.

But still those yelling "entrapment" haven't answered my question: Are you saying if a 13 year old struck up a convo with you on ICQ and begged and pleaded with you to come over to his/her house for a night of drinking and sex you'd show up?!!

in the dateline show that doesnt usually seem to be the case. you always hear the guys say in the chats that they should be careful, that they could get into trouble because they are so much older ect. besides the guy who lied saying he was 26 (which still isn't much betteris 26 and 13 ok??) i can't recall a single one i saw where the guy pretended to be a teenager himself. i used to spend some time in chat room 5 years back or so and there were girls there who were 13-15 who would lie about their age say they were 20 and talk sexual with older guys, and even ones who weren't lieing about their ages trying to engage in sexual chat with older guys. i saw the cnn glenn beck show about a girl who purposely went into chat rooms to find older guys for sex. they are out there, it does happen and more than parents would like to think.

A yuk:

http://datelinehollywood.com/archive...nvestigations/