I think we should change what people think. MAKE them like gays. :2 cents:

You can be a convicted felon and play for the N.B.A. but if you ever have a run in with the Thought Police you're fucked. That has everything to do with PC.

Hush hush, it has nothing to do with political correctness...

I think what he is saying that you can't see the forest for the trees:2 cents:

what sulu says, goes! end of story haha

So change the rules so that convicted felons can't play, if you think that's an issue. A felon is punished by the law in one way or another (serves his time or repays his debt), right? It's not up to the NBA to punish felons. What this guy did is not criminal so no law is going to punish him - the NBA will. If that's PC, so be it.

He's free to think what he wants, nobody controls his thoughts or feelings. But don't express it if you want to play basketball, because that's not what the NBA stands for. As a role model (public figure), the NBA doesn't support people who hate others because of their sexual orientation. Pretty cut and dry.

So professional athletes should be allowed to say whatever they want with no fallout?

Stop living in fantasy land dude. :1orglaugh

that basketball players dick would rip mr. sulu into two. he should watch what he says ...

You seem to know what you're talking about..nothing can beat experience

bahahaha

As a Stern fan, I dig George! He has a great sence of humor:thumbsup

I'd have to agree that politically correct crap is just that. Also the concept of a "hate crime" smacks of fascism, there's no place for it in a free society. I heard a recording of Tim Hardaway's remarks, there seemed to be no thought behind them, just rage. Yes, Tim Hardaway has a right to verbally bash gays (I'm gay by the way) and when he gets verbally bashed in return that's someone else's right. I wasn't offended by such an ignoramus who made a public ass of himself. Free speech DOES mean you can say what you like, but you have to live with the consequences. Anyone who dishes it out ought be able to take it.

RACER

lmao... I love George Takei. Maybe even in a gay way. hmmmm.

I liked the part about the "Smooth Chocolately Head". :1orglaugh

I think they should. Just an opinion.

They don't need to give them jobs and shouldn't if they are truly worried about how the N.B.A. is represented.

The N.B.A.'s punishment IS motivated by political correctness. That's the point I was making.

So the N.B.A. supports role models that have charges for cocaine possesion, spousal battery, rape,etc. as long as there is little to no public backlash. I think that's fucked up.

I am not defending what he said, just calling the N.B.A. on what I see as PC motivated hypocrisy.

mr sulu is not gay!

Do you believe in rehabilitation or simply blacklisting people for their misdeeds which they've owned up to under the Law? If you pay your dues to society, you're supposed to be given another chance. If a court of law finds that a after a felon cleans his act up, he can still throw a ball thru a hoop and wants to make a career out of that, then why shouldn't he be allowed to?


No doubt is plays a role, but so what?

The decision is based on logic, morality, and economics. He's banned from NBA functions because:

1) his opinions are morally indefensible and illogical, and clearly hit a tone with the public; human relations are important
2) his opinions may associate the NBA with things the NBA doesn't want to be associated with (irrational hate), for myriad reasons including their bottom line
4) his opinions may make some players uncomfortable, and help to create a poisonous environment, for no rational reason
3) his opinions may hold sway for the people that look up to him, and the NBA doesn't wish to give him a platform, because it could be interpreted as condoning his opinions.

Based on this, the NBA commissioner probably doesn't like him expressing these particular opinions and as the person in charge, he has the freedom to ban the player from NBA functions.

Motivated by PC? Partly. Hypocritical? To a degree, but that's life. I'm a hypocrite and you are too.


Those are legal matters, and yes if there is no public backlash, then obviously the public doesn't deem it to be an issue, which means it won't effect the NBA bottom line. Presumably these guys are sent to jail or are somehow punished under the law for their illegal actions.

Look, the guy can't attend NBA events anymore. It's not like they're going to lynch him or give him 20 years. He's a grown man, he can take it.

Fair enough. I understood your position and sticky's from the start.

What's more PC about something like this is the demanding of an apology, which we all know he will give, but that we all know is not genuine. Don't make the guy grovel on camera to apologize - he hates gays; that's fine and his perogative. I think he's been handled appropriately by being banned.

me too...

Because the N.B.A. should take a moral stance on the people they set up to be role models.


The decision is based on almost purely on economics. The N.B.A. has shown their lack of morality by giving convicted felons a pass. It's all about the bottom line.

Oh come now. Even the President of the United States has had run-ins with the law prior to being elected to lead the country. If the decision was made purely on economics as you say, that's good business.:thumbsup

Let the law do its job, let organizations run their businesses properly.